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What do you think is best for streaming?

Hi all so iv been on and off youtube and twitch streaming for a few years now as seem to have issues keeping a smooth recording or streaming progress so, here is my question what is the best in your own opinion streaming software and hardware setup.

Im currently using both Xsplit prem and sometimes OBS software and debating whether using my avermedia c985 as the capture device for both PC and console gaming is better then using game capture or display capture. The reason im asking is because i keep getting issues where just the video on the software will start to stutter but the game is perfectly fine im not sure  whether it is something causing an issue with the software or whether i need to upgrade my GPU.

Here is the specs.

windows 10 home

i5 7500

gigabyte b250-HD3p

8gb corsair vengeance LPX ram dd4

avermedia c985

soundblaster z

760gtx geforce windforce OC editon

120gb SSD and 500gb HDD soon to be upgraded.

monitors bush 24" LED tv HDMI, iivama prolite e483s using DVI

Thanks

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Stream rig: Windows 10 Home 64bit, Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3, Amd FX 6100, 12gb mix ddr3 ram, 1060 3gb gtx windforce oc, avermedia c985, 120gb ssd, 500gb HDD, 

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Get a Ryzen or a dedicated capture card like an AV.IO

Or even use a separate computer to render the video.

Your GPU could also do with an upgrade. I suggest an RX480.

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1 minute ago, pbx2 said:

Get a Ryzen or a dedicated capture card like an AV.IO

Or even use a separate computer to render the video.

Your GPU could also do with an upgrade. I suggest an RX480.

yea did look at getting Ryzen but only brought the i5 last month thinking should of gone i7 and ok ill look into the RX480 do you know a Geforce equivalent.

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13 minutes ago, pbx2 said:

a dedicated capture card like an AV.IO

wouldnt change a damn thing performance wise ;)

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what i'd suggest is if you have the budget for it consider a full system upgrade, and use this system as your capture PC, so you can use all of the juice that i5 has to offer to encode.

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14 minutes ago, andybeech said:

ok ill look into the RX480 do you know a Geforce equivalent.

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Don't even bother, the RX480 is better than it.

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12 minutes ago, andybeech said:

yea did look at getting Ryzen but only brought the i5 last month thinking should of gone i7 and ok ill look into the RX480 do you know a Geforce equivalent.

Nvidia equivalent will be the GTX 1060 6GB.

I myself dont recommend n RX 480. It's a 470 pushed so hard that it lost half of its efficiency. I'd say 1060 if you have the money or 470 if you dont

 

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15 minutes ago, andybeech said:

do you know a Geforce equivalent

the nvidia equivalent would be the GTX1060, which as a primarily nvidia/intel user myself i dont even want to recommend because of the crap they pulled with the 3GB GTX1060..

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

I myself dont recommend n RX 480. It's a 470 pushed so hard that it lost half of its efficiency. I'd say 1060 if you have the money or 470 if you dont

that's the weirdest way i've ever seen someone explain an RX480, and i'd strongly disagree with that statement.

 

is it a very power hungry card for being a 6-pin by default? defenately. did aftermarket cards with 8-pin connectors solve this problem? yes.

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1 minute ago, manikyath said:

the nvidia equivalent would be the GTX1060, which as a primarily nvidia/intel user myself i dont even want to recommend because of the crap they pulled with the 3GB GTX1060..

ok cool yea was looking at getting the 1060 GTX as the 1080 is a little too high for me currently had my 760GTX a while. Would my old 10 year old 8800GTX in my AMD build be ok for just streaming so if I was to use my intel build as the gaming PC and then stream it from the AMD build till I upgrade my 760GTX which could then go in to the AMD build.

Gaming rig: Windows 10 Home 64bit Gigabyte z370 hd3p Intel I5 8600k 16Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR4 240gb SSD & 1tb HDD Sound Blaster z, 2070 RTX windforce, Cooler Master Cosmos Case

Stream rig: Windows 10 Home 64bit, Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3, Amd FX 6100, 12gb mix ddr3 ram, 1060 3gb gtx windforce oc, avermedia c985, 120gb ssd, 500gb HDD, 

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4 minutes ago, manikyath said:

that's the weirdest way i've ever seen someone explain an RX480, and i'd strongly disagree with that statement.

 

is it a very power hungry card for being a 6-pin by default? defenately. did aftermarket cards with 8-pin connectors solve this problem? yes.

might have exaggerated a bit. What I meant is that the extra price and power consumption doesn't justify the little performance gain. AMD must get the 480 like that so it can compete with the 1060 I know, just not the best buy out there.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

might have exaggerated a bit. What I meant is that the extra price and power consumption doesn't justify the little performance gain. AMD must get the 480 like that so it can compete with the 1060 I know, just not the best buy out there.

except last time i checked RX480s are cheaper, and dont use *that much* more power.

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15 minutes ago, manikyath said:

except last time i checked RX480s are cheaper, and dont use *that much* more power.

 oh really? I didnt notice the price in other countries. Here in Hong Kong, RX 480s cost 2000 to 2500 HKD while RX 470s cost 1200 to 1500HKD. 7.8 HKD is roughly 1 USD, so its 250USD vs 150USD. Very big gap there

 

EDIT: 1060 6G costs about 2000 to 2500HKD and 3G costs 1600 to 1800HKD. Thats why I say 1060 6G if you have the budget and 470 if you dont. You can consider buying from Hong Kong web stores and sending it back to the other side of the planet though

Edited by Jurrunio

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

5 years oh really? I didnt notice the price in other countries. Here in Hong Kong, RX 480s cost 2000 to 2500 HKD while RX 470s cost 1200 to 1500HKD. 7.8 HKD is roughly 1 USD, so its 250USD vs 150USD. Very big gap there

well, on this side of the planet, the price difference between an RX480 and a GTX1060 is almost 20%, even with the stupid amount of money i pay for power, that's a BIG gap for the RX480 pretty much being the better card.

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ok cool yea was looking at getting the 1060 GTX as the 1080 is a little too high for me currently had my 760GTX a while. Would my old 10 year old 8800GTX in my AMD build be ok for just streaming so if I was to use my intel build as the gaming PC and then stream it from the AMD build till I upgrade my 760GTX which could then go in to the AMD build.

 

Gaming rig: Windows 10 Home 64bit Gigabyte z370 hd3p Intel I5 8600k 16Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR4 240gb SSD & 1tb HDD Sound Blaster z, 2070 RTX windforce, Cooler Master Cosmos Case

Stream rig: Windows 10 Home 64bit, Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3, Amd FX 6100, 12gb mix ddr3 ram, 1060 3gb gtx windforce oc, avermedia c985, 120gb ssd, 500gb HDD, 

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44 minutes ago, andybeech said:

ok cool yea was looking at getting the 1060 GTX as the 1080 is a little too high for me currently had my 760GTX a while. Would my old 10 year old 8800GTX in my AMD build be ok for just streaming so if I was to use my intel build as the gaming PC and then stream it from the AMD build till I upgrade my 760GTX which could then go in to the AMD build.

 

It's not ok, but you are stuck with it atm

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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4 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

It's not ok, but you are stuck with it atm

yea just put my avermedia c985 in to the amd pc to test it seems to work ok :) alot smoother then when doing it on one pc. :) will look at getting a better GPU for my gaming pc and putting the 760gtx into the AMD(stream) Pc.

Gaming rig: Windows 10 Home 64bit Gigabyte z370 hd3p Intel I5 8600k 16Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR4 240gb SSD & 1tb HDD Sound Blaster z, 2070 RTX windforce, Cooler Master Cosmos Case

Stream rig: Windows 10 Home 64bit, Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3, Amd FX 6100, 12gb mix ddr3 ram, 1060 3gb gtx windforce oc, avermedia c985, 120gb ssd, 500gb HDD, 

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