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I've read that u can expect up to 30% performance loss by switching to PCIe 3.0 x8 vs. x16. Is that true? If so, What should I do? I thought these would all fit :(

 

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No, not true at all. The difference is 1%, max.

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Whoever told you that youre gonna lose 30% performance going to an x8 3.0 slot has 30% of their brain missing.

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1 minute ago, Ostwind said:

Whoever told you that youre gonna lose 30% performance going to an x8 3.0 slot has 30% of their brain missing.

Or they're just dumb.

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2 minutes ago, Ostwind said:

Whoever told you that youre gonna lose 30% performance going to an x8 3.0 slot has 30% of their brain missing.

lmao.

 

 

What about pcie 2.0 tho?

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Not true, PCIe 3.0 8x is still enough for any single GPU card on the market, though we are getting to a point where some cards are getting close to maxing it out under "ideal" conditions. 

 

Just now, Rallenhayestime said:

lmao.

 

 

What about pcie 2.0 tho?

8x PCIe 2.0 would limit the card. PCIe 2.0 16x is the same bandwidth as 3.0 8x, so wouldn't affect it. 

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Just now, Rallenhayestime said:

lmao.

 

 

What about pcie 2.0 tho?

Here's an idea of what happens on each number of lanes of each revision.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080_PCI_Express_Scaling/

 

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Just now, Oshino Shinobu said:

8x PCIe 2.0 would limit the card. PCIe 2.0 16x is the same bandwidth as 3.0 8x, so wouldn't affect it. 

But how much so?

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1 minute ago, Rallenhayestime said:

lmao.

 

 

What about pcie 2.0 tho?

older but relevant information

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Impact-of-PCI-E-Speed-on-Gaming-Performance-518/

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/pci-express-3-0-vs-2-0-gaming-performance-gain/4/

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2 minutes ago, Energycore said:

Here's an idea of what happens on each number of lanes of each revision.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080_PCI_Express_Scaling/

 

Expect a 1080 Ti to behave around the same.

thats the site that put that posted that recently, i couldnt for the life of me remember which one had done it so i had to go with older sources that I could remember.

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ok thank you guys so much ! I got another question. So i booted my pc for the first time! yay! but in the BIOS the CPU is going up to 100~114 degrees.. Did I apply the thermal compound wrong or something? I only put an uncooked rice amount

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ok thank you guys so much ! I got another question. So i booted my pc for the first time! yay! but in the BIOS the CPU is going up to 100~114 degrees.. Did I apply the thermal compound wrong or something? I only put an uncooked rice amount

Yeah sounds like a bad application or more likely bad pressure on the cooler from a bad installation.

 

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Just now, jjsung said:

ok thank you guys so much ! I got another question. So i booted my pc for the first time! yay! but in the BIOS the CPU is going up to 100~114 degrees.. Did I apply the thermal compound wrong or something? I only put an uncooked rice amount

did you take the plastic off the coolers baseplate before you put it on?(only applicable if using an aftermarket unit)

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1 minute ago, Ostwind said:

did you take the plastic off the coolers baseplate before you put it on?(only applicable if using an aftermarket unit)

the really big plastic thing? OS was tehre another plastic film on top of the cooler... I guess I'll have to tkae it apart

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5 minutes ago, jjsung said:

ok thank you guys so much ! I got another question. So i booted my pc for the first time! yay! but in the BIOS the CPU is going up to 100~114 degrees.. Did I apply the thermal compound wrong or something? I only put an uncooked rice amount

Applying the TIM wrong is very unlikely to make the temps that high. Most likely case is improper mounting/contact, or you accidentally left the plastic film on the cooler. Take the cooler off, check if there's a film on it and remove it if there is. If not, reapply the cooler and tighten the screws in a cross pattern, so don't tighten two screws on the same side one after the other. 

 

EDIT: Film would be on the plate that makes contact with the CPU. 

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1 minute ago, jjsung said:

the really big plastic thing? OS was tehre another plastic film on top of the cooler... I guess I'll have to tkae it apart

the baseplate is the part that touches the cpu with the thermal paste in between. Most if not all aftermarket coolers have a plastic film on it to protect it prior to installation. Even if you took that off it still sounds like you need to remount the cooler because it smells like a bad mount.

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@Ostwind @Oshino Shinobu If I applied thermal paste 30 mins ago, can I stiill reuse it? I don't have any alcohol at my house. only 70% isopropyl alchol and a microfiber cloth

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1 minute ago, jjsung said:

@Ostwind @Oshino Shinobu If I applied thermal paste 30 mins ago, can I stiill reuse it? I don't have any alcohol at my house. only 70% isopropyl alchol and a microfiber cloth

you really really shoudnt reuse it, you can but its gonna be just as bad or worse since it will introduce air bubbles, also 70% is enough

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20 minutes ago, jjsung said:

ok thank you guys so much ! I got another question. So i booted my pc for the first time! yay! but in the BIOS the CPU is going up to 100~114 degrees.. Did I apply the thermal compound wrong or something? I only put an uncooked rice amount

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22 minutes ago, Ostwind said:

older but relevant information

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Impact-of-PCI-E-Speed-on-Gaming-Performance-518/

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/pci-express-3-0-vs-2-0-gaming-performance-gain/4/

gahh you missed the one puget article that matters here

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Titan-X-Performance-PCI-E-3-0-x8-vs-x16-851/

 

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you really really shoudnt reuse it, you can but its gonna be just as bad or worse since it will introduce air bubbles, also 70% is enough

I meant to say 70% alchol SWAB...

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1 minute ago, jjsung said:

I meant to say 70% alchol SWAB...

well a swab should work if you have enough of them to get it clean. If you dont think  that you do then you should go get some, even 50% would do you just have to wait longer for it to dry.

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1 minute ago, Ostwind said:

well a swab should work if you have enough of them to get it clean. If you dont think  that you do then you should go get some, even 50% would do you just have to wait longer for it to dry.

ok, also I took my cooler off and there was no plastic. I guess just bad mounting job?

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