Ryzen 5 1600 VS Ryzen 7 1700

[nikolaizombie1]

I do light production work every once in a while, however i stream youtube or have plex app on constantly while gaming. Is the R7 1700 worth the additional $100?

[yathis]

yes it is

[LeapFrogMasterRace]

I doubt you will need more than a 12 thread CPU for your uses... so far it seems ryzen 5 and ryzen 7 can both overclock to 4Ghz (with relatively similar voltages too) so gaming will be almost identical. If you can't think of anything better to use that $100 on I guess go with Ryzen 7 but I really don't think you will notice a difference.

[nikolaizombie1]

4 minutes ago, LeapFrogMasterRace said:

I doubt you will need more than a 12 thread CPU for your uses... so far it seems ryzen 5 and ryzen 7 can both overclock to 4Ghz (with relatively similar voltages too) so gaming will be almost identical. If you can't think of anything better to use that $100 on I guess go with Ryzen 7 but I really don't think you will notice a difference.

Is a hard drive upgrade something better?

 

 

[LeapFrogMasterRace]

5 minutes ago, nikolaizombie1 said:

Is a hard drive upgrade something better?

 

 

I just looked at the specs on your profile and am curious is the 4790k really not cutting it? I would say Ryzen 7 would be a better upgrade as storage is not a major issue and can be fixed later.  

[crzyces]

31 minutes ago, nikolaizombie1 said:

Is a hard drive upgrade something better?

 

 

I'd go r5 and add ram (I think as I have not seen your other specs for the new build).

 

Could you post your proposed build with an r7, then another with an r5?

[Jredmond]

For you im going to say no. But that's up to you. I have a Ryzen 7 1700 overclocked to 4.2 it rocks my screen with amazing gaming it has so much horsepower i can play rainbow six and get my 4k video render done while gaming without losing FPS its a great CPU however, im sure the 1600 will be perfectly fine for you as well.

[nikolaizombie1]

9 hours ago, LeapFrogMasterRace said:

I just looked at the specs on your profile and am curious is the 4790k really not cutting it? I would say Ryzen 7 would be a better upgrade as storage is not a major issue and can be fixed later.  

Oh oh, that's my brothers pc, currently  have athlon 860k

[nikolaizombie1]

8 hours ago, crzyces said:

I'd go r5 and add ram (I think as I have not seen your other specs for the new build).

 

Could you post your proposed build with an r7, then another with an r5?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($319.75 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (Purchased For $100.00) 
Motherboard: MSI B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($68.79 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Transcend SSD370 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Hitachi Travelstar 5K1000 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380 4GB PCS+ Video Card  (Purchased For $180.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $50.00) 
Total: $798.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (Purchased For $100.00) 
Motherboard: MSI B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($68.79 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Transcend SSD370 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Hitachi Travelstar 5K1000 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380 4GB PCS+ Video Card  (Purchased For $180.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $50.00) 
Other: Ryzen R5 1600 ($219.99)
Total: $698.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-10 06:33 EDT-0400

 

(had to take out case since there is no m-itx boards for now)

(also have am4 bracket for the h100i)

[crzyces]

4 hours ago, nikolaizombie1 said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($319.75 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (Purchased For $100.00) 
Motherboard: MSI B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($68.79 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Transcend SSD370 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Hitachi Travelstar 5K1000 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380 4GB PCS+ Video Card  (Purchased For $180.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $50.00) 
Total: $798.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-10 06:32 EDT-0400

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (Purchased For $100.00) 
Motherboard: MSI B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($68.79 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Transcend SSD370 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Hitachi Travelstar 5K1000 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380 4GB PCS+ Video Card  (Purchased For $180.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $50.00) 
Other: Ryzen R5 1600 ($219.99)
Total: $698.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-10 06:33 EDT-0400

 

(had to take out case since there is no m-itx boards for now)

(also have am4 bracket for the h100i)

And the winner is *drum role*

 

Build number 2, but add G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory for $99.97 instead of the $59 for the 2x4 kit he has in their. Even if he already has 2x4 sticks now, it's the logical upgrade path that will make the most difference for the money saved on the processor. Also, switching the mobo to a Gigabyte B350 model might help with overclocking, both cpu and ram, as in my experience, Gigabytes tools are just so much simpler to work with, and have become very reliable. Have a blast!

 

[Speedhaste]

On ‎10‎-‎4‎-‎2017 at 0:34 PM, nikolaizombie1 said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($319.75 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (Purchased For $100.00) 
Motherboard: MSI B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($68.79 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Transcend SSD370 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Hitachi Travelstar 5K1000 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380 4GB PCS+ Video Card  (Purchased For $180.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $50.00) 
Total: $798.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-10 06:32 EDT-0400

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (Purchased For $100.00) 
Motherboard: MSI B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($68.79 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Transcend SSD370 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Hitachi Travelstar 5K1000 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380 4GB PCS+ Video Card  (Purchased For $180.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $50.00) 
Other: Ryzen R5 1600 ($219.99)
Total: $698.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-10 06:33 EDT-0400

 

(had to take out case since there is no m-itx boards for now)

(also have am4 bracket for the h100i)

I would also go for option nr2.

Exchange the memory for Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/jjZ2FT/corsair-vengeance-lpx-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16w

Also Exchange the graphics card for Asus Radeon RX 480 8GB ROG STRIX: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/XygPxr/asus-radeon-rx-480-8gb-rog-strix-video-card-rog-strix-rx480-8g-gaming

Or go for a similar priced 580 that should be announced next week which should be performing a little better while being more power efficient.

With such combo you should end up with a better performing system at the same price as the Ryzen 7 build.

Note also the faster memory (3200) will be making a difference as the CCX that communicates between the cores in the cpu will match the speed of your RAM memory.

 

Also I would chose the MSI B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 motherboard over the gaming pro though that's an ATX formfactor

[nikolaizombie1]

12 hours ago, Speedhaste said:

I would also go for option nr2.

Exchange the memory for Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/jjZ2FT/corsair-vengeance-lpx-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16w

Also Exchange the graphics card for Asus Radeon RX 480 8GB ROG STRIX: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/XygPxr/asus-radeon-rx-480-8gb-rog-strix-video-card-rog-strix-rx480-8g-gaming

Or go for a similar priced 580 that should be announced next week which should be performing a little better while being more power efficient.

With such combo you should end up with a better performing system at the same price as the Ryzen 7 build.

Note also the faster memory (3200) will be making a difference as the CCX that communicates between the cores in the cpu will match the speed of your RAM memory.

 

Also I would chose the MSI B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 motherboard over the gaming pro though that's an ATX formfactor

I'm planning to get the biostar B350 M-ITX motherboards when they come out since i have an Enthoo Elvolv ITX

[coldpizzas]

I'm considering the same options, how much of a difference is it going to make in basic video editing and handbrake.  How many minutes those 2 cores going to save me?

[Rock04]

On 4/10/2017 at 6:34 AM, nikolaizombie1 said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($319.75 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (Purchased For $100.00) 
Motherboard: MSI B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($68.79 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Transcend SSD370 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Hitachi Travelstar 5K1000 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380 4GB PCS+ Video Card  (Purchased For $180.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $50.00) 
Total: $798.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-10 06:32 EDT-0400

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (Purchased For $100.00) 
Motherboard: MSI B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($68.79 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Transcend SSD370 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Hitachi Travelstar 5K1000 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380 4GB PCS+ Video Card  (Purchased For $180.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $50.00) 
Other: Ryzen R5 1600 ($219.99)
Total: $698.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-10 06:33 EDT-0400

 

(had to take out case since there is no m-itx boards for now)

(also have am4 bracket for the h100i)

Does that gpu overheat?  I have that gpu and trying to figure out if CPU fan is failing. Or just that gpu beating up the motherboard 

[crzyces]

2 hours ago, Rock04 said:

Does that gpu overheat?  I have that gpu and trying to figure out if CPU fan is failing. Or just that gpu beating up the motherboard 

If there is space on your board (which there normally is), using extra heatsinks is always a good idea. A lot of 100 usually costs about $0.10usd - $0.15. per hs. Something like http://www.ebay.com/itm/100pcs-14mm-x-4m-Heatsink-with-3m-tape-For-Motherboard-VGA-RAM-Memory-IC-Chipset-/262690161840?hash=item3d298dc4b0:g:cScAAOSwqu9VE6I2

 

They go on very easily (just peel the tape off the back). Make sure they don't touch anything carrying a current when placing them. You see them on a lot of boards around cpu's, gpu's, and RAM in OC'd builds, or with cards or cpu's that just naturally run hot. You can obviously get smaller lots, copper instead of alluminum, different colors and sizes. A neat trick I started using was 4 small heatsinks then a larger one on top (like a heatsink table, with a silent case or old cpu fan mounted to the top. Works very well, and looks pretty darn cool.

[jjohnthedon1]

On 10/04/2017 at 3:00 AM, Jredmond said:

For you im going to say no. But that's up to you. I have a Ryzen 7 1700 overclocked to 4.2 it rocks my screen with amazing gaming it has so much horsepower i can play rainbow six and get my 4k video render done while gaming without losing FPS its a great CPU however, im sure the 1600 will be perfectly fine for you as well.

Voltage are you running ?

[Rock04]

I'm running stock on a modified Gateway DX-4885-UB3A, 16 gig ddr3 (1333), I-5 4430, that some programs call it I-5 4440 at 3.2 Ghtz, no turbo, upgraded PSU to Corsair 750 watt, bronze.  I know overkill but Newegg had a combo special and it took an extra $30 off so card was $100 and PSU WAS $50 before $20 mail in rebate.  I have added 2 fans on side to pull hot air away from mobo 

[Jredmond]

7 hours ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

Voltage are you running ?

1.35 won the lotto like good 

[jjohnthedon1]

1 minute ago, Jredmond said:

1.35 won the lotto like good 

You sure did if you have stressed it properly ! 

Mines at 1.44 at 4ghz 

[Jredmond]

Just now, jjohnthedon1 said:

You sure did if you have stressed it properly ! 

Mines at 1.44 at 4ghz 

Thats awful dude i ran realbench and prime95 at the same time for 24 hours its stable trust me 

[jjohnthedon1]

42 minutes ago, Jredmond said:

Thats awful dude i ran realbench and prime95 at the same time for 24 hours its stable trust me 

Mine crashed under r15 run at 1.39 

iv seen a lot of people running at 1.45 to 1.5 tho to hit 4ghz