X5650 (hexa core XEON) vs QHQG (skylake i7 engineering sample)

[Damascus]

Hey all, I'd like to build my mother a 4c/8t or better on a very low budget.  The X5650 seems to be the best option as it can OC to 4Ghz and has an extra 2c/4t over the engineering samples.  My big issue is confusion about getting a motherboard for the X5650

[iRileyx]

You'd need a X58 board I believe. You'd have to get one most likely used, and they don't seem cheap.

 

Whats your mum doing that needs 4c/8t?

[PCGuy_5960]

You will struggle to get the QHQG to 3.5GHz.... I would get the X5650 and get an X58 motherboard. (X58 motherboards usually cost around $100)

[The Sloth]

engineering samples are usually unstable cheaply made chips, they are for demo and testing purpose. prototypes are not meant for consumer use, i would avoid building a computer around a sample chip. 

[Damascus]

Just now, RKRiley said:

You'd need a X58 board I believe. You'd have to get one most likely used, and they don't seem cheap.

Yeah, it'll be between 100-250 CAD.

The QHQG costs 200 CAD and I can use any Z170 mobo (another 100)

 

The X5650 cost $50 and mobo around 100-250 CAD

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

engineering samples are usually unstable cheaply made chips, they are for demo and testing purpose. prototypes are not meant for consumer use, i would avoid building a computer around a sample chip. 

They are not bad, but they are VERY hard to work with.

[Damascus]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

engineering samples are usually unstable cheaply made chip

Boom, exactly what I needed to know, thanks

 

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

You will struggle to get the QHQG to 3.5GHz.... I would get the X5650 and get an X58 motherboard. (X58 motherboards usually cost around $100)

 

3 minutes ago, RKRiley said:

You'd need a X58 board I believe. You'd have to get one most likely used, and they don't seem cheap.

Do you know what mobos can OC and are compatible?  Also, I could set up a 2x X5650 system, would that be worthwhile?

 

[Damascus]

 

How is that? the system can also be purchased in a 24GB version

 

7 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

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8 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

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11 minutes ago, RKRiley said:

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12GB

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, Damascus said:

Do you know what mobos can OC and are compatible?

All X58 motherboards

1 minute ago, Damascus said:

Also, I could set up a 2x X5650 system, would that be worthwhile?

No, they draw a crap ton of power and you can't OC.

[Damascus]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

All X58 motherboards

2 minutes ago, Damascus said:

Awesome, intel only lists a couple of server MOBOs 

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, Damascus said:

How is that? the system can also be purchased in a 24GB version

This is better for everyday use:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7400 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($179.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($52.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $277.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[Doramius]

Building is nice, but I still keep recommending to look for sites that offer used systems.  servermonkey.com is one of these places and you can get a T7500 or a T5500 with a XEON Hex Core for less than $450, with 32GB of memory.  I'm pretty sure there are threads for OC'ing these.  They go through their stock pretty fast, so you may want to call and check for availability, but they have some major deals.

[PCGuy_5960]

3 minutes ago, Damascus said:

Awesome, intel only lists a couple of server MOBOs 

Don't quote me on that... I think that the X5650 is not supported..... Only the i7s are...

[Damascus]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

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I'll get her R5 or an older proper unlocked i7 if these don't work out.  She just needs a good multi-core CPU because rendering on her i7 6500u is basically impossible

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, Damascus said:

I'll get her R5 or an older proper unlocked i7 if these don't work out.  She just needs a good multi-core CPU because rendering on her i7 6500u is basically impossible

Oh, so it is for rendering..... Look into the Xeon E5-2670 it has multicore performance that is on par with the 5820K and it costs just $70!

[Damascus]

3 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

E5-2670

costs 130 in Canada ebay, any alternatives?

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, Damascus said:

costs 130 in Canada ebay, any alternatives?

E5-1650?

[The Sloth]

16 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

They are not bad, but they are VERY hard to work with.

for short term, they won't last long. 

[Damascus]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

E5-1650?

Dank, 100 bucks. 

[The Sloth]

Just now, Damascus said:

Dank, 100 bucks. 

what's your budget? 

[NumLock21]

Seriously if your mother needs that much computing power, then you to spend money on it.

[Damascus]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

what's your budget? 

around $300 CAD for MOBO, RAM and CPU

[Damascus]

1 minute ago, NumLock21 said:

Seriously if your mother needs that much computing power, then you to spend money on it.

Hey, you have a Xeon E5 1650, do you have any recommendations for MOBO?

[Doramius]

E5-2640 for $40 at Servermonkey.com, and they ship international. 2660 for $70.  I think they're both Series V1, but they have a ton of others.

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, Damascus said:

Hey, you have a Xeon E5 1650, do you have any recommendations for MOBO?

He has a 1650 v3, it is newer and it uses a different socket...