New build trying to figure out how to save money :)

[I am not a robot]

Hello Everyone,

 

1. Budget & Location

Around 700e

2. Aim

This build should be for a longer period of time.

This system should be mainly for every type of gaming, i would love to be able to run games properly and have an enjoyable experience (games like GTA 5, Witcher 3, Far cry 4 and so on)
With this build i would love to start my content creation as well (not priority at the moment but would be a nice little touch)

No web browsing included

3. Monitors

i have already 1080p monitor which i am happy with (only 1 monitor will be included)

4. Peripherals

No peripherals

5. Why are you upgrading?

Want to do overall upgrade from my AMD FX 8370 which was warming my feet long enough with stock cooler
My motherboard isn't that great at overclocking and i don't feel like investing to this anymore 

Case	Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Full Tower Chassis PH-ES614L_BK Black	162.83e
CPU vent	Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4 140mm Premium Dual-Tower CPU	89.9e
RAM	Kingston 8GB KIT DDR4 SDRAM 2666MHz	87.9e
Motherboard	ASROCK Z270 PRO4	129.9e
CPU	Intel Core i7 - 7700K or Intel Core i5 - 7600K	370.9e or 259.9e
Graphics Card	SAPPHIRE NITRO+ Radeon RX 480 8GB OC  (alredy owned)

 

As this creates a price of 848 or 737 (different is here the i7 vs i5 where i can't decide)
I was just wondering if you would't be able to help me reduce price on this
(forexample the phanteks case was chosen for the airflow and due to huge Noctua NH-D15 but i wasn't able to find anything cheaper)
I would welcome every suggestion and you help, Thank you in advance. 

[nobiggieBIG]

1 minute ago, I am not a robot said:

Hello Everyone,

 

1. Budget & Location

Around 700e

2. Aim

This build should be for a longer period of time.

This system should be mainly for every type of gaming, i would love to be able to run games properly and have an enjoyable experience (games like GTA 5, Witcher 3, Far cry 4 and so on)
With this build i would love to start my content creation as well (not priority at the moment but would be a nice little touch)

No web browsing included

3. Monitors

i have already 1080p monitor which i am happy with (only 1 monitor will be included)

4. Peripherals

No peripherals

5. Why are you upgrading?

Want to do overall upgrade from my AMD FX 8370 which was warming my feet long enough with stock cooler
My motherboard isn't that great at overclocking and i don't feel like investing to this anymore 

Case	Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Full Tower Chassis PH-ES614L_BK Black	162.83e
CPU vent	Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4 140mm Premium Dual-Tower CPU	89.9e
RAM	Kingston 8GB KIT DDR4 SDRAM 2666MHz	87.9e
Motherboard	ASROCK Z270 PRO4	129.9e
CPU	Intel Core i7 - 7700K or Intel Core i5 - 7600K	370.9e or 259.9e
Graphics Card	SAPPHIRE NITRO+ Radeon RX 480 8GB OC  (alredy owned)

 

As this creates a price of 848 or 737 (different is here the i7 vs i5 where i can't decide)
I was just wondering if you would't be able to help me reduce price on this
(forexample the phanteks case was chosen for the airflow and due to huge Noctua NH-D15 but i wasn't able to find anything cheaper)
I would welcome every suggestion and you help, Thank you in advance. 

What PSU are you planning to get?

[Guest]

1. Cheaper case

2. Cheaper cooler

3. If you go non K i7 7700 you won't have to worry for Z270 board or a cooler at all

4. 88 euros for a single 8GB RAM is too much

[dizmo]

Why not get a smaller cooler?
A liquid cooler and an S340 case should drop the price.

Also, it'd help if you said where you're buying from.

 

1 minute ago, nobiggieBIG said:

What PSU are you planning to get?

You don't have to quote the first post, and you should snip large blocks of quoted text.

[I am not a robot]

11 minutes ago, nobiggieBIG said:

What PSU are you planning to get?

I already own EVGA SuperNova 750 B2

Appology forgot to mention that.

[I am not a robot]

13 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Why not get a smaller cooler?
A liquid cooler and an S340 case should drop the price.

Also, it'd help if you said where you're buying from.

 

You don't have to quote the first post, and you should snip large blocks of quoted text.

I wanted to avoid using liquid cooler mainly because have no experience using them and i am lazy to maintain them. I am buying from Slovakia.

[knightslugger]

17 minutes ago, I am not a robot said:

i would love to start my content creation as well

Your use case would benefit from heavy core count. Ryzen was built for people like you: want power but don't have $1500 laying around for a X99 690k0 build.

 

Consider a R7 1800X build.

[I am not a robot]

16 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

1. Cheaper case

2. Cheaper cooler

3. If you go non K i7 7700 you won't have to worry for Z270 board or a cooler at all

4. 88 euros for a single 8GB RAM is too much

Most probably would like to remain on the cooler even considering the price because i would love to overclock the cpu on its limit. 

I will try to look for better ram but i think this was best at price and size for dual 4gb (size because of the cooler) 

[PigWithAMustache]

3 minutes ago, knightslugger said:

Your use case would benefit from heavy core count. Ryzen was built for people like you: want power but don't have $1500 laying around for a X99 690k0 build.

 

Consider a R7 1800X build.

or save 100 bucks and overclock a 1700x

[nobiggieBIG]

4 minutes ago, I am not a robot said:

I wanted to avoid using liquid cooler mainly because have no experience using them and i am lazy to maintain them. I am buying from Slovakia.

Liquid AIO dont need no maintenence? 

[19_blackie_73]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€363.33 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Advanced C1 50.5 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  (€53.74 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: ASRock Z270M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€121.71 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Kingston Savage 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (€66.31 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  (€101.71 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €706.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-03 17:21 CET+0100

 

here ya go

Edited March 3, 2017 by 19_blackie_73
fixed mobo choice

[I am not a robot]

3 minutes ago, knightslugger said:

Your use case would benefit from heavy core count. Ryzen was built for people like you: want power but don't have $1500 laying around for a X99 690k0 build.

 

Consider a R7 1800X build.

Content creation was like 2nd priority. I was considering ryzen hovewer motherboard cost 150+ and ryzen 1800x 550e so it would cost me more which i cannot afford at the time

[knightslugger]

Just now, PigWithAMustache said:

or save 100 bucks and overclock a 1700x

or spend the 100 bucks to get even more performance from a similar OC percentage. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[I am not a robot]

6 minutes ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€363.33 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Advanced C1 50.5 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  (€53.74 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: ASRock Z270M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€121.71 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Kingston Savage 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (€66.31 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  (€101.71 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €706.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-03 17:21 CET+0100

 

here ya go

Thank you very much the case and ram price look lovely !!!

[I am not a robot]

Would it be worth saving 30e and going with be quit cooler instead of nh d-15 ? I know its huge but what i was reading it was best air cpu cooler so far. 

[19_blackie_73]

16 minutes ago, I am not a robot said:

Would it be worth saving 30e and going with be quit cooler instead of nh d-15 ? I know its huge but what i was reading it was best air cpu cooler so far. 

the nhd15 will perform a tad better than the single tower dark rock, but it looks cool, you don't sacrifice that much cooling performance and it's also very quiet.

I have one myself and cannot complain. of course the nhd15 or the dark rock pro 3 will be better, but it is not worth it imo

[I am not a robot]

1 minute ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

the nhd15 will perform a tad better than the single tower dark rock, but it looks cool, you don't sacrifice that much cooling performance and it's also very quiet.

I have one myself and cannot complain. of course the nhd15 or the dark rock pro 3 will be better, but it is not worth it imo

Thank you very much and everyone that helped me out. You guys are great!

[dizmo]

47 minutes ago, I am not a robot said:

I wanted to avoid using liquid cooler mainly because have no experience using them and i am lazy to maintain them. I am buying from Slovakia.

You don't maintain an AIO. They're maintenance free. It's essentially the same as a regular cooler.

[I am not a robot]

7 minutes ago, dizmo said:

You don't maintain an AIO. They're maintenance free. It's essentially the same as a regular cooler.

No tube or liquid changing ? Will it sit in my pc without me touching it ? ( quite afraid of possible leaks or pump failure, cant afford destroying it)

Moreover aren't those more expensive ?

Edited March 3, 2017 by I am not a robot

[19_blackie_73]

7 minutes ago, I am not a robot said:

No tube or liquid changing ? Will it sit in my pc without me touching it ? ( quite afraid of possible leaks or pump failure, cant afford destroying it)

Moreover aren't those more expensive ?

typically their performance decreases over time and some liquid evaporates , tubing gets clogged up and so on. leaking is only a problem in very rare cases. Though most of them perform a bit better than air coolers. I would at least get a 240 mm aio, everything under that is just bullshit in my honest opinion, the dark rock c1 would probably outperform most 120-140mm aios.

therefore, the only thing that can go wrong with an tower cooler is that it is a failing fan  

I would always go with an air cooler tbh.

[I am not a robot]

1 minute ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

typically their performance decreases over time and some liquid evaporates , tubing gets clogged up and so on. leaking is only a problem in very rare cases. Though most of them perform a bit better than air coolers. I would at least get a 240 mm aio, everything under that is just bullshit in my honest opinion, the dark rock c1 would probably outperform most 120-140mm aios.

therefore, the only thing that can go wrong with an tower cooler is that it is a failing fan  

I would always go with an air cooler tbh.

Yeah thats why i have chosen rather air cooler instead of liquid. I just don't trust them and that fear of having water in pc is horrible. Now i am trying to figure out why people prefer dark rock c1 instead of nh d-15 ( i dont care about 5 +-db noise and i quite like its look tbh. However the performence of noctua is better or am i mistaken ? 

[19_blackie_73]

1 hour ago, I am not a robot said:

Yeah thats why i have chosen rather air cooler instead of liquid. I just don't trust them and that fear of having water in pc is horrible. Now i am trying to figure out why people prefer dark rock c1 instead of nh d-15 ( i dont care about 5 +-db noise and i quite like its look tbh. However the performence of noctua is better or am i mistaken ? 

yeah you are right. But the difference is not that big, and i would prefer the looks and the cheaper price over the ugly design of the noctua and the little better performance. You could get from be quiet also the dark rock pro 3, almost same performance as the nhd15, and same design as the advanced. People choose it over the nhd15 mostly because of looks and price. And tbh: the cooling capacity is most times more than enough. my xeon sits under load @60-70°C depending on how much hot air my gpu is pumping in the case

[I am not a robot]

50 minutes ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

yeah you are right. But the difference is not that big, and i would prefer the looks and the cheaper price over the ugly design of the noctua and the little better performance. You could get from be quiet also the dark rock pro 3, almost same performance as the nhd15, and same design as the advanced. People choose it over the nhd15 mostly because of looks and price. And tbh: the cooling capacity is most times more than enough. my xeon sits under load @60-70°C depending on how much hot air my gpu is pumping in the case

Thats quite nice result and persuasive however i am just a little bit afraid that i7 7700k will heat up a little bit more than xeon. On the other hand the difference is only 2-3 c (compared to nhd15) which isnt much. I think i will go with dark rock pro 3 when considering 10 eur save. 

Thank you!

[19_blackie_73]

24 minutes ago, I am not a robot said:

Thats quite nice result and persuasive however i am just a little bit afraid that i7 7700k will heat up a little bit more than xeon. On the other hand the difference is only 2-3 c (compared to nhd15) which isnt much. I think i will go with dark rock pro 3 when considering 10 eur save. 

Thank you!

yeah, for sure the 7700k will run hotter while overclocked  but even with 60-70°C with the advanced you have enough headroom to play   but the dark rock pro is also cool and 2-3C difference will not make your cpu run faster