Kingston DCP-1000 to offer 6800MB/s Reads!

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These SSDs are marketed for the data center, but that won't stop some people from trying to get one for their desktops!  Kingston promises up to 1.1 Million read IOPS (with up to 200K Write IOPS), a 5-year warranty, power failure data protection, and insane Read/Write speeds, hoping to saturate the 8 PCIe lanes it utilizes.  I'm hoping this is not a duplicate post, but I did not see any references to this drive on the LTT forums with a couple searches, so yeah, I'm posting about it (https://www.kingston.com/us/ssd/system-builder/DCP1000) Personally, I do not see the benefit of these better drives until SATA III SSDs really do present bottlenecks for gaming and other high-end projects - unless you transfer large single files, you're good to go with SATA for the time being.

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You'd definitely have to use CPU lanes for that instead of running it through the DMI or you'd be wasting your money.

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2 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

You'd definitely have to use CPU lanes for that instead of running it through the DMI or you'd be wasting your money.

Some of them Broadwell-E 40 PCIe lane processors, likely.  Or Ryzen R7 with their 24 PCIe lanes

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1 minute ago, VPrime said:

Some of them Broadwell-E 40 PCIe lane processors, likely.  Or Ryzen R7 with their 24 PCIe lanes

Probably BW-E would be the use for this - some boards can run 8/8/8/8/8, allowing 2 1080Tis and 3 of these in RAID 0! 

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2 minutes ago, VPrime said:

Some of them Broadwell-E 40 PCIe lane processors, likely.  Or Ryzen R7 with their 24 PCIe lanes

 

Ryzen only has 16 lanes on the CPU so you could run this and one GPU.      I don't know how big the link between the CPU and the chipsets lanes is, but DMI 3.0 on Skylake/Kaby Lake is only 4 lanes so it would be a waste of drive potential to use chipset lanes.

 

A 40 lane HWE or BWE chip would definitely be nice for this!

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1 minute ago, Droidbot said:

Probably BW-E would be the use for this - some boards can run 8/8/8/8/8, allowing 2 1080Tis and 3 of these in RAID 0! 

Yeah Intel is going to have to give up some ground because not too many people have X99.

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Just now, done12many2 said:

 

Ryzen only has 16 lanes on the CPU so you could run this and one GPU.      I don't know how big the link between the CPU and the chipsets lanes is, but DMI 3.0 on Skylake/Kaby Lake is only 4 lanes so it would be a waste of drive potential to use chipset lanes.

 

A 40 lane HWE or BWE chip would definitely be nice for this!

Erm, where are you getting the info saying Ryzen only has 16?  Ryzen chips (at least the 8 core ones) have 24, with board chipsets adding more indirect ones.  So you could have the 1080Ti plus this and all lanes would be used directly.

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10 minutes ago, VPrime said:

Erm, where are you getting the info saying Ryzen only has 16?  Ryzen chips (at least the 8 core ones) have 24, with board chipsets adding more indirect ones.  So you could have the 1080Ti plus this and all lanes would be used directly.

 

Nope.  16 lanes on the CPU.  From the 1700 to the 1800x.

 

 

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1 minute ago, done12many2 said:

 

Nope.  16 lanes on the CPU.  From the 1700 to the 1800x.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/03/amd-ryzen-review/ Then why did Mark Walton from ArsTechnica seem to indicate otherwise - all of the Ryzen chips will have 24 PCIe lanes, with some boards adding up to 8 more?

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Just now, VPrime said:

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/03/amd-ryzen-review/ Then why did Mark Walton from ArsTechnica seem to indicate otherwise - all of the Ryzen chips will have 24 PCIe lanes, with some boards adding up to 8 more?

 

 I edited my post, but not fast enough.  lol

 

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Just now, done12many2 said:

 

 I edited my post, but not fast enough.  lol

 

Well if you were referring to this post (which did come out before the actual store launch), I suppose there is something to this.  Hmmm.  The Ryzen chips do have some issues with higher frequency RAM, though - at least, that's what Linus said and that one post on that forum somewhere on the internet... 

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1 minute ago, VPrime said:

Well if you were referring to this post (which did come out before the actual store launch), I suppose there is something to this.  Hmmm.  The Ryzen chips do have some issues with higher frequency RAM, though - at least, that's what Linus said and that one post on that forum somewhere on the internet... 

 

That's not what I was referring to and my original statement was correct.  16 lanes on the CPU.  The other 4 is the link to the chipset, like the Intel DMI 3.0 I was talking about earlier.  

 

So you can run 1 GPU in x8 and theoretically, the new Kingston DCP-1000 with the other 8 lanes.  

 

 

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1 minute ago, done12many2 said:

 

That's not what I was referring to and my original statement was correct.  16 lanes on the CPU.  The other 4 is the link to the chipset, like the Intel DMI 3.0 I was talking about earlier.  

 

So you can run 1 GPU in x8 and theoretically, the new Kingston DCP-1000 with the other 8 lanes.  

 

 

How many years have 16 dedicated PCIe lanes been the norm?  Why aren't hard drives dead yet?  Why isn't internet speed 1Gb/s standard in the US as of 2017?  Some tech practices need to end...

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Just now, VPrime said:

How many years have 16 dedicated PCIe lanes been the norm?  Why aren't hard drives dead yet?  Why isn't internet speed 1Gb/s standard in the US as of 2017?  Some tech practices need to end...

 

I read through the source that you provided and they say the same thing.  16 lanes.  Either a x16 or 2 x 8 GPU configuration.

 

Agreed on the PCIe or lack thereof!

 

 

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1 minute ago, done12many2 said:

 

I read through the source that you provided and they say the same thing.  16 lanes.  Either a x16 or 2 x 8 GPU configuration.

 

Agreed on the PCIe or lack thereof!

 

 

So it's the platform that's the limiting factor!  

Lol and I guess the most prominent bottleneck I notice on a daily basis is internet speed and IOPS - a page that is probably only 2MB of text takes some time to load just because of stupid web content that should not be there.  Even so, ISPs should have been able to deal with that by now!