FX 8320 Temp so high. need advice

[maniey]

guys i recently having an issue, i dont know whether its my processor or motherboard

 

1.as pic below i used 3 type of application to measure my proc temperature, but im confused which one the real temp for my processor

any body can help..

 

2. second issue is  the HWinfo show the temp which is highest in my system(marked with blue pen) i dont think that is my proc temp because even i overclock or not its still goes above 65'c when i used prime 95 or playing high games.

when its reach 65'C my system will slowing down and for the game it will crash!

can anybody help me..i can provide much detail more..

 

p/s i check my profile for my rig info!

[Brooksie359]

the motherboards don't have a way to read actual cpu temp. if i remember correctly they use a socket temp reading and a formula to calculate the temp of the cpu. i would suggest using amd overdrive to check temps. 

[Unexas.]

Thats not hot at all don't worry.

[maniey]

Just now, Unexas. said:

Thats not hot at all don't worry.

bro the Hwinfo show my real problem is. when it reach 65"C any game will stuck crashing.even prime 65..and its only happen when reach 65'C..i really dont hve idea what to do now..i already replace thermal paste!

[Unexas.]

1 minute ago, maniey said:

bro the Hwinfo show my real problem is. when it reach 65"C any game will stuck crashing.even prime 65..and its only happen when reach 65'C..i really dont hve idea what to do now..i already replace thermal paste!

65 is not hot its something else thats the issue.

[maniey]

Just now, Unexas. said:

65 is not hot its something else thats the issue.

well 1 more. this happen when i use application that force my processor to 90-100% . i tried unigine valley benchmark no problem at all bacause it ultilize my proc 30% only!

 im really sure my problem happen when it reach 65"c as shown by HWinfo!

[manikyath]

27 minutes ago, Strike105X said:

• Its your motherboard, the vrm's can't handle the load, its a 4+2 power phase design, the 65c temp is the socket temp, the vrm's get so hot that even the socket is affected.

this is probably a thing, there's a reason we have mobo's with VRMs to power the sun for the FX platform.

[maniey]

Just now, Strike105X said:

• Its your motherboard, the vrm's can't handle the load, its a 4+2 power phase design, the 65c temp is the socket temp, the vrm's get so hot that even the socket is affected.

i see..well what should i do..i had this system over 2 years..suddenly came up this problem. any solution bro?

[maniey]

Just now, manikyath said:

this is probably a thing, there's a reason we have mobo's with VRMs to power the sun for the FX platform.

i really dont have idea what is VRM..explation please

[i_build_nanosuits]

1 hour ago, Unexas. said:

65 is not hot its something else thats the issue.

65c is stupid hot for an AMD FX CPU...AMD recommend max CPU temp 62c and the CPU will strart trottling at around 68c...

AMD CPU and INTEL CPU are different..the temp sensor is located further away from the core of the CPU that's why.

[i_build_nanosuits]

1 hour ago, Strike105X said:

• Its your motherboard, the vrm's can't handle the load, its a 4+2 power phase design, the 65c temp is the socket temp, the vrm's get so hot that even the socket is affected.

 

36 minutes ago, manikyath said:

this is probably a thing, there's a reason we have mobo's with VRMs to power the sun for the FX platform.

the motherboard temp is 48c that's not the issue...the CPU temp is shown correctly and at 65c it is indeed way hot...IMHO the CPU cooler is not installed properly or there is something wrong with it maybe the fan is dead or not spinning for some reason on something.

[maniey]

Just now, i_build_nanosuits said:

 

the motherboard temp is 48c that's not the issue...the CPU temp is shown correctly and at 65c it is indeed way hot...IMHO the CPU cooler is not installed properly or there is something wrong with it maybe the fan is dead or not spinning for some reason on something.

i used seidon 120v already custom loop with thicker radiator, and already apply new thermal paste..omg..tell me which part did i wrong

[i_build_nanosuits]

2 minutes ago, maniey said:

i used seidon 120v already custom loop with thicker radiator, and already apply new thermal paste..omg..tell me which part did i wrong

is the pump running and fans spinning?

[maniey]

Just now, i_build_nanosuits said:

is the pump running and fans spinning?

ofcourse..i see the loop work well..i added reservoir tank

[Organized]

8 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

 

the motherboard temp is 48c that's not the issue...the CPU temp is shown correctly and at 65c it is indeed way hot...IMHO the CPU cooler is not installed properly or there is something wrong with it maybe the fan is dead or not spinning for some reason on something.

No, 65°C socket temperature is not too hot, the specified maximum for AM3+ sockets is 70°C. The OP should use AMD Overdrive to check the core temps, that's where the magic 62°C join the game. And even AMD Overdrive uses 70°C as a maximum for the cores.

[maniey]

Just now, Organized said:

No, 65°C socket temperature is not too hot, the specified maximum for AM3+ sockets is 70°C. The OP should use AMD Overdrive to check the core temps, that's where the magic 62°C join the game. And even AMD Overdrive uses 70°C as a maximum for the cores.

LOL..i really confused now..is it HWinfo showing temperature the socket or the proc itself?headache here..

[maniey]

there nothing to found 65'C in overdrive while stressing test!

[i_build_nanosuits]

4 minutes ago, maniey said:

LOL..i really confused now..is it HWinfo showing temperature the socket or the proc itself?headache here..

coming straight from the mouth of HWinfo64 dev

 

 

[Organized]

HWInfo is showing you the socket temperature, I'm pretty sure about that. When your system is on idle, what temps does it say then? Core temps are calcualted and on idle they can even go below ambient temperature. If it's above ambient temp. on idle and it's not fluctuating a lot it's definately the socket temp.

 

AMD Overdrive only shows you the thermal margin (left until you go beyond the specification). 70°C minus the shown thermal margin is the actual core temp.

[i_build_nanosuits]

2 minutes ago, Strike105X said:

 

 

Your not familar with Hwinfo i take it ?

We can very well head over to the HWinfo official forum for confirmation if you want...

 

i did just that ''mr. expert'' please read my previous post

thanks for clarifying that.

[Organized]

3 minutes ago, Strike105X said:

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THATS it! Correct!

[maniey]

Just now, Strike105X said:

 

 

Your not familar with Hwinfo i take it ? That's the socket temp, the Core temps are above that in the CPU tab:

 

We can very well head over to the HWinfo official forum for confirmation if you want...

Its a power delivery system that supplies voltage for the CPU, unfortunately very few motherboard come properly equiped for FX CPU's. 

so now..i need to find out why my socket it overheating while my proc only goes about 50'c ?any idea bro..?

[i_build_nanosuits]

2 minutes ago, maniey said:

so now..i need to find out why my socket it overheating while my proc only goes about 50'c ?any idea bro..?

it's not...if 70c is really the socket temp...then that's fine.

[maniey]

Just now, Organized said:

HWInfo is showing you the socket temperature, I'm pretty sure about that. When your system is on idle, what temps does it say then? Core temps are calcualted and on idle they can even go below ambient temperature. If it's above ambient temp. on idle and it's not fluctuating a lot it's definately the socket temp.

 

AMD Overdrive only shows you the thermal margin (left until you go beyond the specification). 70°C minus the shown thermal margin is the actual core temp.

yeah i notice that too..so i believe the problem come from the socket..

[maniey]

Just now, i_build_nanosuits said:

it's not...if 70c is really the socket temp...then that's fine.

if u said that's fine..why if i play game Bf4 and Aassin creed its crash..and im 100% sure its crash when the socket temp reach over 65'c..do i need go to bios and manually reduce voltage for VRM?