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4 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Last time I was first, Nick and Luke roasted me so hard

i am going a number two :P 

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2 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said:

i am going a number two :P 

You missed and got third xD

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we know how beautiful the face of Linus is, but can we please save that for the CSF videos and add thumbnails, of, I don't know, the actual thing that transpires in the video?

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17 minutes ago, shadowbyte said:

we know how beautiful the face of Linus is, but can we please save that for the CSF videos and add thumbnails, of, I don't know, the actual thing that transpires in the video?

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Finally a decent video coming out of LTT. I didn't know about those dual 10 Gbit/1Gbit switches. Super cool.

 

Also, it's weird to see one of those clappers (the things they use to synchronize audio and video) in an actual finished production (in Linus's back pocket.)

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only 2 high speed ports? would it be cheaper to put 10G PCI NICs in the file server?

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6 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said:

only 2 high speed ports? would it be cheaper to put 10G PCI NICs in the file server?

The product is obviously a consumer level product. Most consumers don't have more than 1 server. Sure, it'd be great to have 10 Gbit between each computer in the network, but that's not really necessary.

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The sad thing is that a 10GbE adapter doesn't cost much more to make than a 1GbE adapter, and the steep pricing is just companies price gouging.

 

1GbE is woefully inadequate for the needs of even a basic PC user, and teaming does not benefit all traffic. 1GbE should have been phased out on all but the most basic computers (e.g., things like netbooks).

 

1GbE has been obsolete for at least 10 years now, and it is just ridiculous that we are seeing any any mid to high end motherboard ship with 1GbE today.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, corrado33 said:

The product is obviously a consumer level product. Most consumers don't have more than 1 server. Sure, it'd be great to have 10 Gbit between each computer in the network, but that's not really necessary.

i was asking about the cost effectiveness of only having 2 10G ports on the unmanaged switch vs filling a server PCI slots with NICs. it looks slightly cheaper to buy NICs.

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6 minutes ago, Razor512 said:

The sad thing is that a 10GbE adapter doesn't cost much more to make than a 1GbE adapter, and the steep pricing is just companies price gouging.

 

they want their R&D costs and licensing costs. price will remain high until something newer comes along. fibre is still out of my reach

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43 minutes ago, Razor512 said:

1GbE is woefully inadequate for the needs of even a basic PC user

No, it's not.

If GbE was inadequate for basic users, or the average user, manufacturers would be selling 10GbE at every big box store under the sun for a smaller price.

 

More issues stem from latency, speed inconsistency, slow upload speeds, poor consumer networking equipment (excluding high end), and the sad state of web browsers, than from throughput.

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1 hour ago, shadowbyte said:

we know how beautiful the face of Linus is, but can we please save that for the CSF videos and add thumbnails, of, I don't know, the actual thing that transpires in the video?

 

 

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So does that network switch include PoE?

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1 hour ago, Drak3 said:

No, it's not.

If GbE was inadequate for basic users, or the average user, manufacturers would be selling 10GbE at every big box store under the sun for a smaller price.

 

More issues stem from latency, speed inconsistency, slow upload speeds, poor consumer networking equipment (excluding high end), and the sad state of web browsers, than from throughput.

 

Think of it like a PC hardware version of comcast.

1GbE sucks, but instead of putting some real effort into fixing it, the motherboard makers, and router makers, are just looking at us while doing this.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Razor512 said:

 

Think of it like a PC hardware version of comcast.

1GbE sucks, but instead of putting some real effort into fixing it, the motherboard makers, and router makers, are just looking at us while doing this.

 

 

 

Not really, 1GbE is still overkill for average users that doesn't have custom/high end NAS solutions, +1GbE internet, or local game servers.

GbE is still more than adequate for the typical user at home.

 

You might be right 10 years from now, if file sizes grow to require more than GbE to transfer in a timely manner. But that's not now, and by that time, 10GbE will be the standard, GbE will be the budget choice.

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2 hours ago, Razor512 said:

1GbE is woefully inadequate for the needs of even a basic PC user, and teaming does not benefit all traffic. 1GbE should have been phased out on all but the most basic computers (e.g., things like netbooks)

It really isn't. I'm all for 10Gbps to become cheaper but lets not kid ourselves. Most end users don't have any network storage and aren't transferring files across the network. And at this stage even the ones that do are copying those files between HDDs. And therefore well under 1Gbps. The biggest files they have are probably BluRay rips which are probably 1080p and aren't going to stream at over 100Mbps let alone 1Gbps.

 

And that person with the NAS and BluRay rips isn't even the average consumer. That person is ahead of the bell curve. The average consumer is more likely streaming videos over WiFi from the internet. They're the sort of people who might stumble across this video and wonder what the point is if it doesn't make the internets or WiFi faster. They probably think that their "1900AC" router actually gives them 1.9Gbps (it doesn't) and makes their 30Mbps internet faster (it doesn't).

 

Again, I'm excited to see 10Gbps networking slowly become a more mainstream product. When it drops bellow a certain price and I have more than one device that can take advantage of it? I'll be jumping on board. Whether I have an actual need for it or not. But if it was as cheap as 1Gbps is already? You'd have consumers buying them, plugging 100Mbps devices into every port and claiming they notice the difference in speed......

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5 hours ago, Razor512 said:

The sad thing is that a 10GbE adapter doesn't cost much more to make than a 1GbE adapter, and the steep pricing is just companies price gouging.

 

1GbE is woefully inadequate for the needs of even a basic PC user, and teaming does not benefit all traffic. 1GbE should have been phased out on all but the most basic computers (e.g., things like netbooks).

 

1GbE has been obsolete for at least 10 years now, and it is just ridiculous that we are seeing any any mid to high end motherboard ship with 1GbE today.

 

 

I forgot that 90% of the world has 1024.01 Mb/s download and upload speeds.

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5 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

I forgot that 90% of the world has 1024.01 Mb/s download and upload speeds.

Or high end NAS solutions revolving around RAID and/or SSDs.

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How fast of a network would I need to keep up with these drive speeds?

 

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