Best, Affordable, Long Term PC Build Help

[TheRoyalDoyle]

Hello all, 

I am a new member to the forum, but a long time LTT watcher. I was hoping to get some help. About 4 years ago I moved from a windows based environment to an apple environment. While I was younger and into gaming that is all I did. Well now I have some kids who are getting into gaming also, and I would like to back into it. Here is what I am hoping to get some help with:

 

I am looking to build a machine that will run all of the current games and be 4k relevant. I am looking to keep the price tag down as low as possible, I am also looking to keep the system relevant for as long as possible, I do not want to buy something this year and have it no longer be supported next. Any input would be great. This will be a a gaming machine and a homework machine.

 

Thanks in Advance

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, TheRoyalDoyle said:

What budget, what's your display set up?

[OsuMasterz]

budget? some people conceive "cheap" differently lol

[Guest]

This

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($312.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($74.99 @ NCIX US) 
Motherboard: MSI Z170A GAMING M7 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($205.98 @ Directron) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($99.99 @ Jet) 
Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($124.99 @ Jet) 
Storage: Seagate Pipeline HD 2TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($51.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($659.89 @ B&H) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($659.89 @ B&H) 
Case: NZXT H440 (Matte Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ B&H) 
Total: $2390.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-03 17:18 EST-0500

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, OsuMasterz said:

budget? some people conceive "cheap" differently lol

"Cheap" "4k relevant".... well... fuck.

[TheRoyalDoyle]

Sorry. I would love to be at 1k however will trade price for longevity. As far as a display I will also need a display an preiphs, however are not required to fit within the "budget" section of this.

[RyanMacRocks]

4K relevant while keeping the price down is going to be hard, if you're on a budget I would go with 1080p, it still looks fine, even a few years down the line it will still be a viable budget option.

[TheRoyalDoyle]

ok well lets expand on this then, something that will do 4k in the future if not now.

[fiberzs is dad]

2 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

This

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($312.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($74.99 @ NCIX US) 
Motherboard: MSI Z170A GAMING M7 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($205.98 @ Directron) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($99.99 @ Jet) 
Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($124.99 @ Jet) 
Storage: Seagate Pipeline HD 2TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($51.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($659.89 @ B&H) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($659.89 @ B&H) 
Case: NZXT H440 (Matte Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ B&H) 
Total: $2390.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-03 17:18 EST-0500

how much im worth here

[RyanMacRocks]

1 minute ago, TheRoyalDoyle said:

Sorry. I would love to be at 1k however will trade price for longevity. As far as a display I will also need a display an preiphs, however are not required to fit within the "budget" section of this.

What is your budget then? And does 4K relevant mean CS:GO and League of Legends, or AAA games like The Witcher 3 and GTA V?

[OsuMasterz]

Just wondering, wouldn't it be better to get a machine able to push 144HZ on most games than 4k for gaming?

[OsuMasterz]

1 minute ago, fiberzs is dad said:

how much im worth here

he said 1K boi

[RyanMacRocks]

Just now, OsuMasterz said:

Just wondering, wouldn't it be better to get a machine able to push 144HZ on most games than 4k for gaming?

Depends, for CS:GO and COD than yeah 144 hz, most other games I'd rather have 4k.

[Guest]

Just now, TheRoyalDoyle said:

Sorry. I would love to be at 1k however will trade price for longevity. As far as a display I will also need a display an preiphs, however are not required to fit within the "budget" section of this.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($299.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Asus H110M-A/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($46.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: ADATA Ultimate SU800 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.78 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($384.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: Zalman T2 Plus MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($27.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ B&H) 
Total: $994.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-03 17:22 EST-0500

[Cyracus]

2 minutes ago, TheRoyalDoyle said:

ok well lets expand on this then, something that will do 4k in the future if not now.

You really can't make a budget pc that will do 4k acceptably, top of the line hardware is just at that point. Go with 1440p or 1080p and pump the graphics settings to max, that $995 build above should be great for that

[Streetguru]

8 minutes ago, TheRoyalDoyle said:

Sorry. I would love to be at 1k however will trade price for longevity. As far as a display I will also need a display an preiphs, however are not required to fit within the "budget" section of this.

Can't really do 4k gaming for that much, you could crossfire if you get a different motherboard, most AAA games are going to be medium settings 4k, you need a titan XP to run say, GTAV at 4k with Very High Graphical settings.

 

but there's a 4k 27" TN free-sync display here

the i3 6100 should be replaced by the Kaby Lake Overclocking i3 when that becomes available, should wait to buy if possible or just get an i5 6500, but the i3 will be fine for 60hz gaming

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RBqvsJ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RBqvsJ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B150M Pro-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($62.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: GeIL SUPER LUCE 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.78 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB NITRO+ Video Card  ($249.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case  ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($76.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: AOC U2879VF 28.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor  ($299.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $968.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-03 17:25 EST-0500


This video is ancient, but it shows a 285 GPU being somewhat capable at 4k in some games anyways

 

[TheRoyalDoyle]

Thanks guys, I will start to look into all of these options and let you know what I decide!

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Cyracus said:

You really can't make a budget pc that will do 4k acceptably, top of the line hardware is just at that point. Go with 1440p or 1080p and pump the graphics settings to max, that $995 build above should be great for that

A 1070 can do 4K max with around 30fps

 

[Princess Luna]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pH3xTH

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($299.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($27.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-C/CSM Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($44.38 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($44.38 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($68.88 @ Jet)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.78 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($384.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($74.99 @ Jet)
Total: $1089.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-03 17:33 EST-0500

 

Not too different from what @deXxterlab97 brought up to the table, it should work like a decent guideline for a good 1k build.

[Cyracus]

2 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

A 1070 can do 4K max with around 30fps

Sure if you don't mind frame dips, depending on the game into the teens or I've even seen single digits. The 1080 and titan xp are the only ones I've seen that can run a single card without frame dips ruining the game

[Princess Luna]

2 minutes ago, Cyracus said:

Sure if you don't mind frame dips, depending on the game into the teens or I've even seen single digits. The 1080 and titan xp are the only ones I've seen that can run a single card without frame dips ruining the game

Or you can win the lottery and get a Quadro P6000 and play 4k Ultra 60fps
But for real 30ish fps isn't bad start if you want to test out 4k on the living room television for example, there are lots of games that can get very good 4k performance too for a starting experience such as Source 1 based games, would never advise 1070's with a 4k monitor though.

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Can't really do 4k gaming for that much, you could crossfire if you get a different motherboard, most AAA games are going to be medium settings 4k, you need a titan XP to run say, GTAV at 4k with Very High Graphical settings.

 

but there's a 4k 27" TN free-sync display here

the i3 6100 should be replaced by the Kaby Lake Overclocking i3 when that becomes available, should wait to buy if possible or just get an i5 6500, but the i3 will be fine for 60hz gaming

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RBqvsJ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RBqvsJ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B150M Pro-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($62.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: GeIL SUPER LUCE 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.78 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB NITRO+ Video Card  ($249.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case  ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($76.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: AOC U2879VF 28.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor  ($299.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $968.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-03 17:25 EST-0500


This video is ancient, but it shows a 285 GPU being somewhat capable at 4k in some games anyways

 

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ummm no. 

 

18 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($299.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Asus H110M-A/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($46.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: ADATA Ultimate SU800 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.78 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($384.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: Zalman T2 Plus MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($27.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ B&H) 
Total: $994.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-03 17:22 EST-0500

 

 

8 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pH3xTH

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($299.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($27.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-C/CSM Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($44.38 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($44.38 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($68.88 @ Jet)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.78 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($384.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($74.99 @ Jet)
Total: $1089.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-03 17:33 EST-0500

 

Not too different from what @deXxterlab97 brought up to the table, it should work like a decent guideline for a good 1k build.

 

These are the same price and 10000000 times better performing... Just they don't include a monitor

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Abyss Gaming said:

ummm no. 

 

 

These are the same price and 10000000 times better performing... Just they don't include a monitor

Right, but a 1070 can't really do 4k gaming either, the 480 lets you run games fine at 1080p which would scale fine on the 4k display, and you still get free-sync as well

G-sync 4k displays are still $800 if the part picker is correct
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TzfmP6/asus-monitor-pg27aq

[Guest]

Just now, Streetguru said:

Right, but a 1070 can't really do 4k gaming either, the 480 lets you run games fine at 1080p which would scale fine on the 4k display, and you still get free-sync as well

G-sync 4k displays are still $800 if the part picker is correct
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TzfmP6/asus-monitor-pg27aq

 

Except the 1070 would last longer even if he plays on 1080p.

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Abyss Gaming said:

Except the 1070 would last longer even if he plays on 1080p.

Not worth using only 60-70% of your GPU for a few years though, the 480 runs most AAA games over 60fps at high-ultra

Besides DX12/Vulkan should keep the 480 around for a long while for 1080p 60hz gaming