AMD Athlons on A budget.

[malachileschorn]

On A budget is this CPU power = to A core i5 6500

AMD Athlon X4 880K

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BPEZ5P4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

[dizmo]

Definitely not.

[Simon771]

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-6600K-vs-AMD-Athlon-X4-880K/3503vsm121029

 

Not even close.

Firt off, there isn't any i5 6500k. It's either i5 6500 or i5 6600k.

And non of the AMD CPUs can compete with either of those new i5 CPUs.

[malachileschorn]

but what about price? is rely worth it to spend 200$ just so you can tern up the graphics in you game A bit more?

 

[Megah3rtz]

3 minutes ago, malachileschorn said:

but what about price? is rely worth it to spend 200$ just so you can tern up the graphics in you game A bit more?

 

would you rather not be able to run the game or be able to run the game

 

buy an i3 6100 if you want to go cheap 

[Ryoku]

17 minutes ago, malachileschorn said:

On A budget is this CPU power = to A core i5 6500K

AMD Athlon X4 880K

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BPEZ5P4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Not even close.  You'd probably be better off getting an i3 6100 over this.

[malachileschorn]

you can run the game just not at very hi settings and I just don't care about if my game is only running at medium or low as long as it runs

[Megah3rtz]

We've already gone over this in a different thread, this is a terrible idea. Stop spamming. 

[malachileschorn]

I'm not spamming I just think you only looking at one side. I think the core i3 and i5 is great but I'd get A AMD if I didn't have the money for that kind of cpu.

 

[Megah3rtz]

11 minutes ago, malachileschorn said:

I didn't have the money for that kind of cpu.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=2MN-0004-00002 

 

and your motherboard to go with it : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130940

 

its 20$ more for the processor, and the motherboard would either be cheaper, or the same price as FM2. you can't seriously be that cheap

[incarnate]

7 minutes ago, malachileschorn said:

I'm not spamming I just think you only looking at one side. I think the core i3 and i5 is great but I'd get A AMD if I didn't have the money for that kind of cpu.

 

That doesn't change the fact that the AMD cpu is no where close to the power of an i5 6500. There's no other side to it. If AMD had anything close to a i5's performance, it would be priced around the same as the i5.

 

You need to realize it isn't AMD's job to be robin hood. They are cheap because they are way behind in performance, not because they are "good guys".

[Guest]

27 minutes ago, malachileschorn said:

you can run the game just not at very hi settings and I just don't care about if my game is only running at medium or low as long as it runs

I had an AMD CPU and it was a pain, constant crashing when using firefox, the thing was so hot. Best choice ever was me going intel. 

[Guest]

47 minutes ago, malachileschorn said:

but what about price? is rely worth it to spend 200$ just so you can tern up the graphics in you game A bit more?

 

When it comes to CPUs its more sensitive. A lot of games offer settings to make the graphical load lighter but settings to reduce CPU load isn't nearly as common.

[SLAYR]

7 hours ago, malachileschorn said:

I'm not spamming I just think you only looking at one side. I think the core i3 and i5 is great but I'd get A AMD if I didn't have the money for that kind of cpu.

 

It will be fine for gaming, anything over a rx 470 or so will get held back by it though, if you plan on getting a rx480/gtx 1060 or better go for the i3.

 

7 hours ago, Powis21 said:

I had an AMD CPU and it was a pain, constant crashing when using firefox, the thing was so hot. Best choice ever was me going intel. 

Don't be a fanboy.

-firefox and amd cpus run fine, crashing can happen for any reason, doesn't have to be due to an amd cpu you can get it to crash on an intel cpu as well.

- The 880k has the same tdp as a 6600k, or a 6700k, and less tdp then the intel extreme series, all amd cpus don't run hot  if anything they have a lower max core

temp then intel cpus for the fx lineup (70-80C IIRC vs 100C)

 

7 hours ago, incarnate said:

That doesn't change the fact that the AMD cpu is no where close to the power of an i5 6500. There's no other side to it. If AMD had anything close to a i5's performance, it would be priced around the same as the i5.

 

They do have competition to the i5s it is called the fx 8xxx series, an 8350 stock will give the same performance as a 6600k, and you can get them and a board for the same price as an i3 now. 

[incarnate]

1 hour ago, SLAYR said:

 

 

Don't be a fanboy.

-firefox and amd cpus run fine, crashing can happen for any reason, doesn't have to be due to an amd cpu you can get it to crash on an intel cpu as well.

- The 880k has the same tdp as a 6600k, or a 6700k, and less tdp then the intel extreme series, all amd cpus don't run hot  if anything they have a lower max core

temp then intel cpus for the fx lineup (70-80C IIRC vs 100C)

 

 

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[SLAYR]

1 minute ago, incarnate said:

Fanboy? Projecting much? I said nothing of Firefox. I said nothing about temps or tdp. I said nothing of crashing. 

 

Learn to read buddy. OP started a second thread asking if the Athlon was comparable to an i5. starting the second thread because people were only "looking at one side" of the issue. That is what I replied to.

 

Post some benchmarks showing that the Athlon is close to an i5 in performance (to prove my post wrong) or just drop it.

I didn't quote you on being a fanboy.

That was to @Powis21

My response to you was under where I quoted you. This.

1 hour ago, SLAYR said:

They do have competition to the i5s it is called the fx 8xxx series, an 8350 stock will give the same performance as a 6600k, and you can get them and a board for the same price as an i3 now. 

 

I never said the athlon was anywhere close to the performance of an i5.

[incarnate]

1 minute ago, SLAYR said:

I didn't quote you on being a fanboy.

That was to @Powis21

My response to you was under where I quoted you. This.

 

I never said the athlon was anywhere close to the performance of an i5.

Wow my bad. Gotta stop making an ass of myself first thing in the morning. -.-

 

While you're correct that the fx 8s are close to i5s in games that can use all the threads, there's a huge backlog of games, and no guarantee that ever release is going to be heavily multithreaded.  and that is what it takes for it to match an i5.

 

However that is neither here nor there, the OP was asking about the Athlon.

[malachileschorn]

11 hours ago, Megah3rtz said:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=2MN-0004-00002 

 

and your motherboard to go with it : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130940

 

its 20$ more for the processor, and the motherboard would either be cheaper, or the same price as FM2. you can't seriously be that cheap

I'm trying not to go over 200$ for my mother bored and CPU

[Guest]

I know this was many hours ago  but let me explain further. My amd cpu i had was the x4 860k. It ran hotter than my friends who owned the same, so maybe i should have said 'upgrading' was the best thing that i done as it gave me better performance regardless whether it was intel or Amd as the upgrade i got was with intel i just stated 'intel'. My bad for being so vauge in this area.... 

9 hours ago, SLAYR said:

Don't be a fanboy.

-firefox and amd cpus run fine, crashing can happen for any reason, doesn't have to be due to an amd cpu you can get it to crash on an intel cpu as well.

 

 

[Phate.exe]

50 minutes ago, Powis21 said:

I know this was many hours ago  but let me explain further. My amd cpu i had was the x4 860k. It ran hotter than my friends who owned the same, so maybe i should have said 'upgrading' was the best thing that i done as it gave me better performance regardless whether it was intel or Amd as the upgrade i got was with intel i just stated 'intel'. My bad for being so vauge in this area.... 

 

So your system ran hot, you did poor/no troubleshooting as to why (bad/underpowered cooler, poor airflow, bad thermal paste/application), threw money at the problem, swapped out all the hardware, and attributed the fact that things are now working fine to the change in brand, rather than:

• It now has a new cooler
• Everything was removed and reinstalled
• It now has different/reapplied thermal paste
• It now has a different motherboard
• It now has a different processor
• It is now basically a different computer

Any one of the first three things could have solved your temperature problems.

 

Yup, definitely AMD's fault for not being able to run firefox.

 

*goes back to playing Forza Horizon 3 on a 3.8GHz 6 core Phenom II at 45°C*

[malachileschorn]

 

[Guest]

6 hours ago, Phate.exe said:

So your system ran hot, you did poor/no troubleshooting as to why (bad/underpowered cooler, poor airflow, bad thermal paste/application), threw money at the problem, swapped out all the hardware, and attributed the fact that things are now working fine to the change in brand, rather than:

• It now has a new cooler
• Everything was removed and reinstalled
• It now has different/reapplied thermal paste
• It now has a different motherboard
• It now has a different processor
• It is now basically a different computer

Any one of the first three things could have solved your temperature problems.

 

Yup, definitely AMD's fault for not being able to run firefox.

 

*goes back to playing Forza Horizon 3 on a 3.8GHz 6 core Phenom II at 45°C*

I had a hyper 212 evo and re applied thermal paste many times, maybe i should've sent it back really  . It idled at 65-70c. Any idea as to why? Also same cooler, same case, same airflow. I'm not saying amd is bad as i corrected my earlier post I'm just curious as to whether or not i just got unlucky. I was and still am using a s340. I done the first three things more than once as well.