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FBI Owns Half of All Child Porn Websites, and Actively Helps Improve Reliability and Speed of Them

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According to a document obtained by the ACLU, the FBI is operating 23 websites dedicated to spreading child porn.

 

Security researcher Sarah Jamie Lewis (has also worked for GCHQ) is the maintainer of a bot-driven Tor analyzer which has found 29 unique child porn websites. Assuming that there are more out there, and that not all 23 FBI hosted child porn distribution websites were hosted at the same time, it is a reasonable assumption to say that the FBI is or was in control of roughly half of all child porn websites.

These are not harmless websites either. They actually host real child porn. Not only that, but according to Peter Adolf, an assistant federal defender in North Carolina, the FBI also upgraded websites they seized to increase the performance and reliability.

 

According to court documents, FBI seized a website called PlayPen and helped to quadruple the number of unique visitors to the website, as well as host 200 videos, 9000 images and 13,000 links to child porn. The court document also outlines a "conservative estimate" that the FBI has distributed 1,000,000 pornographic images featuring children.

The FBI has also been found to violate jurisdictional limits when trying to track down pedophiles.

 

The idea is that if they operate these websites, they have a higher chance of tracking down pedophiles using them. It has proven somewhat efficient, leading to charges against over 100 people for possession of child porn (although it is unclear how many has been found guilty).

 

So if you are a pedophile, don't forget to send a "thank you" note to the FBI, because it appears that they are by far the largest distributor of it.

Seriously though, how is this legal? It seems like the FBI are doing more harm than good by far. I get that catching pedophiles is a good thing, but the fact that they are actively increasing the amount of child porn is really, really bad.

It's one thing to catch someone doing something illegal, and another thing to set up scenarios where the crime can take place to begin with, actively help someone commit the crime, and then catch a minuscule amount of the people you helped. If anything, that should make you an associate. Besides, I would argue that spreading it around does more damage than downloading (at least that's what the movie industry has been arguing for a long time) and by that logic the FBI is committing a more serious crime than the people they are catching.

 

Has the entire world gone mad?

 

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6 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

So if you are a pedophile, don't forget to send a "thank you" note to the FBI, because it appears that they are by far the largest distributor of it.

Seriously though, how is this legal? It seems like the FBI are doing more harm than good by far.

Because the websites they took over and are now operating are honey pots, they are capturing useful data from their users that is being distributed to various law enforcement agencies.

 

So I don't really understand you're 'Say thank you to the FBI' comment, why would someone want to say thank you to the guys who installed the sweet capchino machine into the room full of bear traps?  They clearly just wanted to step on one on of their bear traps once they got you through the front door.

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I see where breaking the law to do the right thing and avoid harm to others is ok. But upgrading the sites so more visitors come seems way too sketchy and out of their power. Just imagine if Hillary would have won. 

 

 

 

 

 

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I don't think that 200 vids and 9000 images is THAT much... There are lots of pedo's getting busted, with way more data... Also, the FBI might want to "host those websites" to track down actual practicing pedo's, not just the ones watching content that was already out there.

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2 minutes ago, keNNySOC said:

#MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

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3 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

I see where breaking the law to do the right thing and avoid harm to others is ok. But upgrading the sites so more visitors come seems way too sketchy and out of their power. Just imagine if Hillary would have won. 

 

 

 

 

 

Plz no flame war

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Just now, keNNySOC said:

WW3

Actually, trying not to derail the thread, Russia is really happy Trump won and wants to make amends for what they did. The Russian people see it as a true American who won that isn't scared to speak their mind. 

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5 minutes ago, AshleyAshes said:

Because the websites they took over and are now operating are honey pots, they are capturing useful data from their users that is being distributed to various law enforcement agencies.

 

So I don't really understand you're 'Say thank you to the FBI' comment, why would someone want to say thank you to the guys who installed the sweet capchino machine into the room full of bear traps?  They clearly just wanted to step on one on of their bear traps once they got you through the front door.

Well there is one thing to seize a website and then start using it as a honeypot, and another thing to seize it, upgrade it and make it more popular. Hell, I'd say that honeypots (especially at this scale) is very close to entrapment.

Or you know, just shut the website down and all of a sudden the majority of child porn distribution will be gone.

 

 

7 minutes ago, Dutch-stoner said:

I don't think that 200 vids and 9000 images is THAT much... There are lots of pedo's getting busted, with way more data... Also, the FBI might want to "host those websites" to track down actual practicing pedo's, not just the ones watching content that was already out there.

That was one out of the 23 websites they operate.

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4 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Actually, trying not to derail the thread, Russia is really happy Trump won and wants to make amends for what they did. The Russian people see it as a true American who won that isn't scared to speak their mind. 

True it's not WW3 time, it's Civil War 2. Well I'd rather a US Civil War than another Avenger's Civil War.

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It's like arresting people that you sold drugs to for having drugs except it's just pictures.

This is astonishingly stupid on several levels.

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I believe entrapment (leaving something in a place in order to entice someone to commit a crime) is a criminal offence in the us and here in the UK. Unless you're the fbi.

 

Though I understand that they are trying to catch people breaking the law but you don't see them using high risk targets as a way to catch murders.

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Just now, SamStrecker said:

Actually, trying not to derail the thread, Russia is really happy Trump won and wants to make amends for what they did. The Russian people see it as a true American who won that isn't scared to speak their mind. 

Trump is WAY better than Clinton, even if he may go a little nuts (building a wall) atleast he wont fucking make a WW3, Trump has strong connections with Russia and wants the 2 largest countries on the earth to be at peace, and he never fucking said he wants to kick Mexicans out of the USA, HE CLEARLY SAID "illegal mexicans" and that he does not care if it takes a giant wall and a pretty door for people to get in the USA LEGALLY plus i hate the Clintons since Bill Cosby Clinton pulled the trigger on bombing Serbia back in 1999 and causing chaos thru the Balkan states

 

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this is entrapment and it's not legal or just.

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10 minutes ago, keNNySOC said:

#MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

Found Trump's LTT account :P

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Just now, ThinkWithPortals said:

Found Trump's LTT account :P

If it was his he would probably be banned already. xD 

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1 minute ago, keNNySOC said:

If it was his he would probably be banned already. xD 

You can't be banned for trumping your opponent.

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So a cop can sell weed to bust people? Or am I not understanding this correctly?

if you have to insist you think for yourself, i'm not going to believe you.

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5 minutes ago, treeroy said:

this is entrapment and it's not legal or just.

I was trying to think of the word and yes I agree. All I could think of was honeypot and that movie with Seth Rogan and Kim Jon Un. Lol JON UN

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I thought this was old news. I think I heard about it months ago on a tech show.

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13 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

Well there is one thing to seize a website and then start using it as a honeypot, and another thing to seize it, upgrade it and make it more popular. Hell, I'd say that honeypots (especially at this scale) is very close to entrapment.

Then you don't know what entrapment is.  Entrapment is when law enforcement entices someone to commit a crime who otherwise wouldn't have committed a crime.  No pedophile has ever successfully made the legal argument of 'Well, I wouldn't have been looking at child porn, but then the cops brought the server response time down by 100ms! and how could I say no to that!?'.  Making the child porn site look SHINIER in no way meets the legal burden for an argument of 'entrapment'.

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10 minutes ago, keNNySOC said:

the 2 largest countries

Me thinks China and India are the largest countries when it comes to population... They both have like 3 times the population?

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