Phanteks Eclipse P400S vs NZXT H440

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On 12/11/2016 at 8:55 PM, DutchTexan said:

No problem. Don't worry you probably only have about 14-817 hours of starring at your monitor watching and reading reviews before you make your decision.

 

Case and HDD shopping was a daily ritual for many weeks for me.

another question, my case is on the way anyway.

 

can you install two 120mm or 140mm fans under the GPU?, maybe with screws, from the bottom you can?.

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1 minute ago, RGomez9119 said:

another question, my case is on the way anyway.

 

can you install two 120mm or 140mm fans under the GPU?, maybe with screws, from the bottom you can?.

Um... well... There's no intake down there... sooooo....

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Just now, rphawks said:

Um... well... There's no intake down there... sooooo....

I know but I saw a guy with one 120mm fans installed under the GPU to keep gpu's temps low.

I want to know if it's really possible and you can screw the fan from the bottom?

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Just now, RGomez9119 said:

I know but I saw a guy with one 120mm fans installed under the GPU to keep gpu's temps low.

I want to know if it's really possible and you can screw the fan from the bottom?

You probably can. There are ventilation holes. But... That would do literally nothing. There's no intake in the bottom and no exhaust, it would basically be cycling hot air. The front fans cool the GPU anyways.

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1 minute ago, rphawks said:

You probably can. There are ventilation holes. But... That would do literally nothing. There's no intake in the bottom and no exhaust, it would basically be cycling hot air. The front fans cool the GPU anyways.

front fans need to be ones with high RPM?, or can be cheap fans like fractal design gp-14 140mm?

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Just now, RGomez9119 said:

front fans need to be ones with high RPM?, or can be cheap fans like fractal design gp-14 140mm?

Your choice really. Depends on how much airflow you need.

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Just now, rphawks said:

Your choice really. Depends on how much airflow you need.

I want the best airflow possible without noise, any good fans of 140mm that you can recommend me?.

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Just now, RGomez9119 said:

I want the best airflow possible without noise, any good fans of 140mm that you can recommend me?.

Ummm... Silent Wings 3. I have Aerocool DS's, but they aren't as quiet as advertised. Silent Wings should do the work.

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11 hours ago, RGomez9119 said:

I want the best airflow possible without noise, any good fans of 140mm that you can recommend me?.

My 2 Noctua 140mm intake fans kick ass. Kind of expensive though. You can get fans designed for airflow that aren't Noctua. I have High static intake fans designed for radiators, looking back there really isnt any pressure and I would have been better with the thinner, sharper angled airflow fan blades. Still works great for me at lower fan speed. I like my airflow to have a little torque behind it, rather than just going straight up horsepower. Also, something to consider is youre never really going to be running your fans above 70%, realistically 60% is way too high due to the noise.

 

Another thing I gave noticed after playing BF1 for a while is the entire case warms up like a heatsink. So, for CPU cooling it might help to literally cool the metal of your case. I have stuck an ice pack to the back panel and I think it helped. Just need to watch out for the humidity. It is already around 58% humid in my room.

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@RGomez9119

I have 2 of these and they kick ass

These are pretty good for the money

These work and look great They technically outperform my fans straight up for air flow, but are not designed to push the air through anything.

 

Pure value for the dollar go for these Each fan is better than the stock one. You can plop three of them in the front and have a good wave of air flowing across your PSU to the top of your motherboard. You can set the 4th one up where the original exhaust was for a little better CPU heat dissipation, aka heat your room up a little better :1

 

Technically, you don't have to replace or buy any fans at all, I just really recommend replacing the stock ones in the P400

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8 minutes ago, DutchTexan said:

@RGomez9119

I have 2 of these and they kick ass

These are pretty good for the money

These work and look great They technically outperform my fans straight up for air flow, but are not designed to push the air through anything.

 

Pure value for the dollar go for these Each fan is better than the stock one. You can plop three of them in the front and have a good wave of air flowing across your PSU to the top of your motherboard. You can set the 4th one up where the original exhaust was for a little better CPU heat dissipation, aka heat your room up a little better :1

 

Technically, you don't have to replace or buy any fans at all, I just really recommend replacing the stock ones in the P400

between

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835352007

and

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VYEI1KC/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=Y0NAGVC8GRHA&coliid=I1JV5LHL2XZWIY

 

which one is better?.

 

why the case warms up?, is the first time that I have heard that.

 

my room all day:

30c

humidity 76%

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3 minutes ago, RGomez9119 said:

between

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835352007

and

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VYEI1KC/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=Y0NAGVC8GRHA&coliid=I1JV5LHL2XZWIY

 

which one is better?.

 

why the case warms up?, is the first time that I have heard that.

The case warms up for me after gaming for a while. Probably over 90 degrees, it is probably my motherboard getting hot from my CPU and then that heat going to the structure of the case. Either way, I think that is a good thing for my case to be a heat sink. The conservation of energy works like that, the heat from your parts have to go somewhere. The heat either stays in your hardware(case included) or it turns into a convection heater warming up your room/house. That is how Mac's and iPhones work, they make the case the heat sink to cool the entire phone/computer.

 

Between the two fans, I really can't say which is better out right. For you I would say the one with thick fan blades would better, becasue you are going to need to be pushing air across your hard drive cages. Maybe the best thing to do would be to buy the GP-14 and set that up as the bottom front intake(in front of the cages). Then, buy the R2 140mm fan and put that as the top front intake fan(where nothing is going to get in the way of the flow)

 

The last thing to think about is going to be an extension cable, becasue it may or may not have enough length to in the wire to make it to a system or cpu fan header on your motherboard.

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2 hours ago, DutchTexan said:

The case warms up for me after gaming for a while. Probably over 90 degrees, it is probably my motherboard getting hot from my CPU and then that heat going to the structure of the case. Either way, I think that is a good thing for my case to be a heat sink. The conservation of energy works like that, the heat from your parts have to go somewhere. The heat either stays in your hardware(case included) or it turns into a convection heater warming up your room/house. That is how Mac's and iPhones work, they make the case the heat sink to cool the entire phone/computer.

 

Between the two fans, I really can't say which is better out right. For you I would say the one with thick fan blades would better, becasue you are going to need to be pushing air across your hard drive cages. Maybe the best thing to do would be to buy the GP-14 and set that up as the bottom front intake(in front of the cages). Then, buy the R2 140mm fan and put that as the top front intake fan(where nothing is going to get in the way of the flow)

 

The last thing to think about is going to be an extension cable, becasue it may or may not have enough length to in the wire to make it to a system or cpu fan header on your motherboard.

got it.

question: if you turn off the leds, the led of the power button also turn off?

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2 minutes ago, RGomez9119 said:

got it.

question: if you turn off the leds, the led of the power button also turn off?

Yup. 

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1 minute ago, rphawks said:

Yup. 

got it

 

I'm wondering again if the 1m will be enough.

let me see the photos that duchtexan had uploaded.

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Just now, RGomez9119 said:

got it

 

I'm wondering again if the 1m will be enough.

let me see the photos that duchtexan had uploaded.

It will be. In fact, it's a little too much. I have 2 LEDs that I had to route back.

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2 minutes ago, rphawks said:

It will be. In fact, it's a little too much. I have 2 LEDs that I had to route back.

got it, 1m then

one last question:

 

since this is not the P400S silent version, the case let the sound get out of the case by a lot?, or not?.

I can not heard anything from my actual Nano S because of the foam on the panels.

 

My fans are silent anyway but, I want to know...

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1 minute ago, RGomez9119 said:

got it, 1m then

one last question:

 

since this is not the P400S silent version, the case let the sound get out of the case by a lot?, or not?.

I can not heard anything from my actual Nano S because of the foam on the panels.

 

My fans are silent anyway but, I want to know...

mmmm.... it will probably leak sound. 

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1 minute ago, rphawks said:

mmmm.... it will probably leak sound. 

but, a lot?...

is noticeable?.

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1 minute ago, RGomez9119 said:

but, a lot?...

is noticeable?.

I can't answer that. I have a P400S. But... probably around -5 dB muted from the total.

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Just now, rphawks said:

I can't answer that. I have a P400S. But... probably around -5 dB muted from the total.

P400s at 20$more worth it for just the foams?

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Just now, RGomez9119 said:

P400s at 20$more worth it for just the foams?

I bought it for the fan controller. It is for that, but if the material is your thing, your choice. I can't make that decision. Which is more important to you?

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1 minute ago, rphawks said:

I bought it for the fan controller. It is for that, but if the material is your thing, your choice. I can't make that decision. Which is more important to you?

none

I just don't want to have a louder case than my nano s

however, the fractal design gp-14 are not loud at all at max speed.

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Just now, RGomez9119 said:

none

I just don't want to have a louder case than my nano s

however, the fractal design gp-14 are not loud at all at max speed.

Again, I can't make the decision. You have to choose.