Jump to content

Comcast rolling out cap naitonwide

Syntaxvgm
3 hours ago, MrUnknownEMC said:

Some routers have features to keep track of data usages. 

DDWRT has a feature built in. Thats what Im going to be using. To Test Comcast. If I see any differences I may consider contacting the Attorney General of my State. For piss poor business practices. Wouldn't be the first time Ive contacted the Government due to a business not knowing how to ethically do business. 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

On 10/7/2016 at 5:46 AM, DocShay said:

With emerging 4k content - This will be an issue. I'm pretty sure I have a 1tb cap with Shaw here in Canada on their 150mb service, but ive never monitored how much I use nor has Shaw ever complained to me. I cut the cable cord well over a year ago now, most things are streamed now though out HTPC with the odd download.

With anyone who is a streamer or media production company or gamer or just a streamer or hosting a server at home, this will be a nightmare

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

RIP me, and we don't even have a real alternative in my area.

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

im on att dsl...still...out in the middle of one of the fastest growing cities in america...and i have a 150gb cap.

F U att.

 

EDIT: my bill is 59$ a month 6mbps down and 1.5mbps up. that is the fastest that can be provided to my house. charter communications offers 60mbps down through cable BUT im 130 feet too far away and they refuse to lay the wire even if i pay for it. so im litteraly stuck with only one option. ATT uverse is "rolling out" but its been like 3 years since they started and doesnt look like its anywhere near me yet. only issue i have with charter is they monitor EVERYTHING you do, any use of torrents is pretty much throttled or straight up fined without warning. att so far doesnt care what i do thank god.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Good thing I'm with a small ISP, who gives me free(included in rent) 100/10 and no data cap. I can download and upload as much as I want. As a single resident, i rarely hit 1tb downloaded.

 

32ZNRLF.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

On ‎10‎/‎7‎/‎2016 at 5:03 PM, Syntaxvgm said:

https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/06/comcasts-1tb-data-caps-start-to-roll-out-nationwide/

Yep. 1TB cap, nationwide. Hitting me in Fort Wayne Nov 1st. 

You can be charged up to 200$ in 50GB sets of 10$ or add 50$ a month for unlimited data. 

 

 

No idea how the fuck this is even legal. 

 

I used 3TB month before last, and I have a  feeling this is to stop people from cutting cable, which btw I have no idea how much things like PS Vue use, which I just signed up for and have on 24-7. 

have no fucking idea because the data usage meter no longer works, just a 404. 

In addition, I'm on a waiting list for 2Gb/s service from them. Am I supposed to use my entire fucking cap in like less than 2 hours of full speed? No idea, I'll figure out when I call and argue about that 70$ a month for TV I'm assured I don't owe but never gets removed from my bill again for like the third time

This is what happens when companies have monopolies on providing a service to certain areas. 

 

Please, if you are affected by this, file a complaint with the FCC 

https://consumercomplaints.fcc.gov/hc/en-us

 

 

Why does anybody use Comcast if they have this kind of behavior?

 

If a company in Hong Kong did that then they'd be out of business asap.

Judge a product on its own merits AND the company that made it.

How to setup MSI Afterburner OSD | How to make your AMD Radeon GPU more efficient with Radeon Chill | (Probably) Why LMG Merch shipping to the EU is expensive

Oneplus 6 (Early 2023 to present) | HP Envy 15" x360 R7 5700U (Mid 2021 to present) | Steam Deck (Late 2022 to present)

 

Mid 2023 AlTech Desktop Refresh - AMD R7 5800X (Mid 2023), XFX Radeon RX 6700XT MBA (Mid 2021), MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon (Early 2018), 32GB DDR4-3200 (16GB x2) (Mid 2022

Noctua NH-D15 (Early 2021), Corsair MP510 1.92TB NVMe SSD (Mid 2020), beQuiet Pure Wings 2 140mm x2 & 120mm x1 (Mid 2023),

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

I honestly don't see how people can use 1TB of data a month unless they're doing regular full-drive backups to carbonite or AWS. I do very little but watch programming tutorials (and download them if I find them worthwhile) and specialist lectures on Youtube at 1080p all day when not working and not posting here. Between me and my apartment mate, we are coming nowhere close to breaking through our ISP's 100GB monthly limit here in Brisbane.

Software Engineer for Suncorp (Australia), Computer Tech Enthusiast, Miami University Graduate, Nerd

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, AluminiumTech said:

Why does anybody use Comcast if they have this kind of behavior?

 

If a company in Hong Kong did that then they'd be out of business asap.

Because Unlike Hong Kong Comcast has dedicated Territory in the US, where they have no to little competition. Where I live you can get Comcast or ATT. Comcast offers speeds up to 75Mbps, ATT offers 6Mbps, however from what neighbors have said, the service doesn't really work in our area. I guess we are too far from the Co. So we have Comcast and only Comcast. Both ATT and Comcast have caps. Also, you can use 4G LTE because the caps are much lower and the Overages are much higher. So we are stuck with Comcast. 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

7 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

Why does anybody use Comcast if they have this kind of behavior?

 

If a company in Hong Kong did that then they'd be out of business asap.

Ironically, the land of free competition allows ISPs strong grips on local monopolies and duopolies. 

My eyes see the past…

My camera lens sees the present…

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

At this point, I think we are all waiting for google fiber to swoop in and save us from comcast. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

wow this is horrible, i alone in the house use shitloads of internet not to mention the other 3 people + guests... wow atleast im in Sweden so this isnt afecting me 

I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally) watch YT and write essays...  nothing, it just sits there collecting dust...

Builds:

The Toaster Project! Northern Bee!

 

The original LAN PC build log! (Old, dead and replaced by The Toaster Project & 5.0)

Spoiler

"Here is some advice that might have gotten lost somewhere along the way in your life. 

 

#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

Follow these simple rules in life, and I promise you, things magically get easier. " - MageTank 31-10-2016

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, Hulkbert said:

At this point, I think we are all waiting for google fiber to swoop in and save us from comcast. 

What rock have you been sleeping under? Comcast and ATT have been fighting Google tooth and nail. Look at whats happening in Nashville. Google cant do shit. 1 company verses an entire industry that does not want change. Yeah its not going to be the saving hope you think it will be. 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

8 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

Why does anybody use Comcast if they have this kind of behavior?

 

If a company in Hong Kong did that then they'd be out of business asap.

Well for my city (Houston), there's not much of a choice, either Comcast or ATT.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Just now, Donut417 said:

What rock have you been sleeping under? Comcast and ATT have been fighting Google tooth and nail. Look at whats happening in Nashville. Google cant do shit. 1 company verses an entire industry that does not want change. Yeah its not going to be the saving hope you think it will be. 

Damn...I guess you are right. Starry internet, anything happen with that?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

The only reason comcast is doing this is because the FCC shot down their hopes and dreams of "super highways" on the internet by making sure that they couldn't throttle internet for specific services if you're on an inferior plan.

 

But being the evil company that they are figured out a way to squeeze more money out of people anyways.

 

Luckily my area has TWC, but in most areas you don't even have a choice.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, biggiebody said:

Well for my city (Houston), there's not much of a choice, either Comcast or ATT.

 

2 hours ago, Zodiark1593 said:

Ironically, the land of free competition allows ISPs strong grips on local monopolies and duopolies. 

 

9 hours ago, Donut417 said:

Because Unlike Hong Kong Comcast has dedicated Territory in the US, where they have no to little competition. Where I live you can get Comcast or ATT. Comcast offers speeds up to 75Mbps, ATT offers 6Mbps, however from what neighbors have said, the service doesn't really work in our area. I guess we are too far from the Co. So we have Comcast and only Comcast. Both ATT and Comcast have caps. Also, you can use 4G LTE because the caps are much lower and the Overages are much higher. So we are stuck with Comcast. 

 

Lol. In Hong Kong there's like 3 Major ISPs.

 

PCCW, CSL, HKBN,

 

None of them have a data cap to my knowledge.

Judge a product on its own merits AND the company that made it.

How to setup MSI Afterburner OSD | How to make your AMD Radeon GPU more efficient with Radeon Chill | (Probably) Why LMG Merch shipping to the EU is expensive

Oneplus 6 (Early 2023 to present) | HP Envy 15" x360 R7 5700U (Mid 2021 to present) | Steam Deck (Late 2022 to present)

 

Mid 2023 AlTech Desktop Refresh - AMD R7 5800X (Mid 2023), XFX Radeon RX 6700XT MBA (Mid 2021), MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon (Early 2018), 32GB DDR4-3200 (16GB x2) (Mid 2022

Noctua NH-D15 (Early 2021), Corsair MP510 1.92TB NVMe SSD (Mid 2020), beQuiet Pure Wings 2 140mm x2 & 120mm x1 (Mid 2023),

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

This is bullshit... I am experiencing something similar right now with my local provider. I have two options, Charter or my local company. Charter where I am at charges $60 a month for just internet (60mbps and is capped at 500GB). My local company charges $50 a month just for internet (30mbps and is capped at 1TB). So right now I am with my local because I DESPISE Charter. So I am literally stuck between two shitty services that charge an outrageous amount for their incredibly unreliable services. This is what happens when you don't live in the big city but right outside of it. 

GPU: XFX RX 7900 XTX

CPU: Ryzen 7 7800X3D

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't see why your complaining? I pay $100 for 2Mbit download(and 0.6Mbit upload) and a 500GB cap.

pP2qjGg.png

Oh look I don't even use half my cap this month. I am also half way done downloading Doom, so this result will end up at about 200GB usage.

Spoiler
On 08/10/2016 at 3:53 PM, kiska3 said:

Lets look at Australia NBNco, for bandwidth provisioning.

Source: http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco2/documents/sfaa-wba2-product-catalogue-price-list_20150201.pdf

AVC connects you to a POI, at a POI an ISP has equipment there to service data back to their own network, this charge is called a CVC.

AVC - Access virtual circuit start at $24 for a 12/1 Mbit service, going up to $70 for a 250/100 Mbit service, etc, this is included in your contract.

CVC - Connectivity virtual circuit is charged at $17.5 per Mbit per month to an ISP, this charge is to facilitate transfer between the POI to the ISP's network(backhaul, etc), or you could say between NBNco network to ISP network since NBN is only wholesale.

POI - Point of Interconnect - there are 121 POIs across Aus.

Then we have the ISP's own charges such as backhaul, etc which affects the price you pay.

Example:

Source: http://www.optus.com.au/shop/broadband/home-broadband/plans?bt=FBB&tl=FTEL

Optus offers on all their plans "unlimited" data, this plan starts at $110 per month, provided you don't want to add anything onto it, this is the "upto" 100/40 Mbit service since the higher bandwidth services haven't rolled out yet.

In this $110 includes a $38 AVC charge. Assuming that Optus is dedicating all that bandwidth to yourself(which is not a good business decision but lets assume), they are paying a CVC charge of $1750 per month to their backhaul, which we don't know the cost. Already gone past your monthly payment, oh dear..... which is why there is such a thing called a contention ratio, Optus's contention ratio from some parts of the internet claim a 100:1 ratio, which means for every 100 people they provision 1 Mbit, therefore if you get more than 1Mbit for example your using what is not being used by someone else, good for off peak, not good for peak but whatever saves them money

Also quoting myself.......

Western Sydney University - 4th year BCompSc student

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, kiska3 said:

I don't see why your complaining? I pay $100 for 2Mbit download(and 0.6Mbit upload) and a 500GB cap.

pP2qjGg.png

Oh look I don't even use half my cap this month. I am also half way done downloading Doom, so this result will end up at about 200GB usage.

  Reveal hidden contents

Also quoting myself.......

I think you're ignoring the fact that there will be family's included in this cap.  Individually, it would probably be fine; but a big family would have problems.  If you yourself uses around 200-300 GB per month, think of a family of 5; they'll be pretty close to that 1 tb cap if not pass it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, biggiebody said:

I think you're ignoring the fact that there will be family's included in this cap.  Individually, it would probably be fine; but a big family would have problems.  If you yourself uses around 200-300 GB per month, think of a family of 5; they'll be pretty close to that 1 tb cap if not pass it.

There is a family in my cap, namely myself, my little brother who can't get off of youtube, my sister who can't seem to stop watching anime and my dad who can't stop watching Chinese news. Yet this billing period hasn't gone past 200GB yet, with 3 days to go

Western Sydney University - 4th year BCompSc student

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, kiska3 said:

There is a family in my cap, namely myself, my little brother who can't get off of youtube, my sister who can't seem to stop watching anime and my dad who can't stop watching Chinese news. Yet this billing period hasn't gone past 200GB yet, with 3 days to go

Don't know what to say man

 

My 3 person family usage for the past 4 months including this month and I don't even consider us to be that much of a data hog.  This is mostly from watching YouTube, Anime, and minor things; none of us watch netflix; not much downloading.  Maybe a few games and videos here and there, but we don't download that stuff everyday.  So I wouldn't be surprised if bigger family would easily hit that 1 TB limit.

Usage.JPG

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, biggiebody said:

Don't know what to say man

 

My 3 person family usage for the past 4 months including this month and I don't even consider us to be that much of a data hog.  This is mostly from watching YouTube, Anime, and minor things; none of us watch netflix; not much downloading.  Maybe a few games and videos here and there, but we don't download that stuff everyday.  So I wouldn't be surprised if bigger family would easily hit that 1 TB limit.

Usage.JPG

Again I don't get how you manage to hit 1TB of usage.

My family can barely hit 250GB let alone 500GB cap.

9q4sCLU.png

gHMu7V7.png

UO5Lt6h.png

Like I am watching someone stream in 720p and I watch youtube videos in 720p, yet myself I use about 70-80GB per month.

My sister and little brother watch their anime in 720p as well, and my dad watches his news in 1080p. Yet for the billing period we average 200GB odd......

Western Sydney University - 4th year BCompSc student

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

26 minutes ago, kiska3 said:

Again I don't get how you manage to hit 1TB of usage.

My family can barely hit 250GB let alone 500GB cap.

 

Like I am watching someone stream in 720p and I watch youtube videos in 720p, yet myself I use about 70-80GB per month.

My sister and little brother watch their anime in 720p as well, and my dad watches his news in 1080p. Yet for the billing period we average 200GB odd......

We mostly watch in 1080p; who knows, maybe Comcast is straight up lying to me.  I wouldn't put it past them

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, kiska3 said:

I don't see why your complaining? I pay $100 for 2Mbit download(and 0.6Mbit upload) and a 500GB cap.

pP2qjGg.png

Oh look I don't even use half my cap this month. I am also half way done downloading Doom, so this result will end up at about 200GB usage.

  Reveal hidden contents

Also quoting myself.......

The point is, these companies use meters that are not Government regulated. I buy gas in Michgian I can bitch to the state goverment if the pumps are not correct. The state actually tests all pumps yearly. When I go to Meijer to buy a pound of salami and if the scale isnt right I can bitch to the government. IF DTE tries to fuck me on Gas and Electric I can bitch to my government. Because all of these meters are regulated. Comcast, ATT, Verizon, T Mobile, Sprint, and other do not have the goverment breathing down their neck. If the goverment was giving them the if you fuck up Im going to break my foot off in your ass look then problems like this: https://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Wireless-Seeing-Large-Spike-in-User-Billing-Complaints-138091 would not be happening.  

 

Plus these caps are fucking bull shit. There is not a reason to have caps on wired broadband. In my opinion this violates the Sherman act as they refuse to compete with streaming services. Whom ever thought it was a good idea to let internet providers and media companies merge is a fucking idiot. Truthfully the FCC need to come out with rules. Or the 50 State government need to come out with rules governing meters. ISPs should be like every other metered service and be regulated. 

 

The usage caps have not started yet in my area. They start Nov. 1st. I currently dont have access to the meter. I guarantee you this, if I do have access by Nov. 1st I will be calling Comcast, and they better give the access. If they dont my next call is to the Michigan Attorney Generals office, The FCC and the FTC. I dont fucking play games and I guarantee I will follow up like this, the last business to screw me over, I got the Office of the Michigan Attorney General involved. I dont like being bent over and fucked. On top of all that, DDWRT shows usage, I will be comparing. 

 

The CEO's of these companies need to go back to school and take a god damned Ethic's class. Im sick of the lack of morals and ethics in business. Im fine with businesses making money, but not at the expense of their customers. What happen to the customer is always right, what happen to providing good customer service. The only good experience I have had with any company was T Mobile. I walked in to their store and I feel like a valued customer. I also understand in the wireless space there is a limited amount of spectrum and such, so I give them less hell about usage caps. But what is the excuse of wired broadband providers? Don't they get tax dollars for upgrades and maintenance? The USF? Im sorry but any business that gets Tax payer subsidies should have to kiss the tax payers ass. That does not only include the telecommunications companies but banks, auto makers. As long as you get money from the Tax payer, you have a responsibility to the tax payer. 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


×