PSU Tier List [OLD]

[OrionFOTL]

On 23.07.2016 at 4:44 AM, STRMfrmXMN said:

Tier 1 - Best

• Corsair - 2017 TXM greater than 650W

Why only greater than 650W?

[JR88]

I guess on the crap tier for now. This Apevia is doing well though...beating the corsair CX the cx came with dead sata so I mean that's not cool.

[turkey3_scratch]

3 hours ago, JR88 said:

I guess on the crap tier for now. This Apevia is doing well though...beating the corsair CX the cx came with dead sata so I mean that's not cool.

Crap happens.

[JR88]

3 minutes ago, turkey3_scratch said:

Crap happens.

I guess man...just wanted something that worked really. Seen quite a few of those Apevia units run for quite some time the older ones. The good of the bad or something...I thought they got better with the CX's too I guess not Lol.

 

Next round will do it right and get a nicer Unit again. 

[turkey3_scratch]

2 minutes ago, JR88 said:

I guess man...just wanted something that worked really. Seen quite a few of those Apevia units run for quite some time the older ones. The good of the bad or something...I thought they got better with the CX's too I guess not Lol.

 

Next round will do it right and get a nicer Unit again. 

You can't judge all CX units based on a single fault you had.

[Energycore]

2 minutes ago, JR88 said:

I guess man...just wanted something that worked really. Seen quite a few of those Apevia units run for quite some time the older ones. The good of the bad or something...I thought they got better with the CX's too I guess not Lol.

 

Next round will do it right and get a nicer Unit again. 

That sucks

 

It's been mentioned above but sometimes you get a faulty unit and you shouldn't judge the entire series by just one unit.

 

As an example, I own a Cooler Master Elite 500W. That's a Tier 7 PSU. I used it for years with an overclocked 560 Ti and it never gave me any problems, never killed any hardware or itself. It was really loud though. The point is, just because of that, I'm not ready to say "yeah the Elite 500W is a decent PSU" because it's not, I got lucky that I never had an issue with it.

[seon123]

3 hours ago, JR88 said:

I guess on the crap tier for now. This Apevia is doing well though...beating the corsair CX the cx came with dead sata so I mean that's not cool.

You can RMA a unit because of a dead SATA port. You can't RMA a crappy unit because of its crappiness. 

[JR88]

1 hour ago, seon123 said:

You can RMA a unit because of a dead SATA port. You can't RMA a crappy unit because of its crappiness. 

It was 40$ unit idk rma that? lol..guess I could I tried to sign up through their site but it wasn't working...

[turkey3_scratch]

You can return stuff to retailers instead of RMAing.

[Energycore]

5 hours ago, OrionFOTL said:

Why only greater than 650W?

According to this review the TX550M has a low holdup time of 8.8ms.

https://www.tweakpc.de/hardware/tests/netzteile/corsair_tx550m/s04.php

 

Any one thing wrong with a PSU's protection features be it OPP/etc or holdup time is enough to bump them out of T1

 

(if it's really bad like OPP on the EVGA B3 it'll bump them further down)

 

An additional review confirming this would be ideal but in my short search time I only found this one.

[awesomegamer919]

6 hours ago, OrionFOTL said:

Why only greater than 650W?

Different performance between the high wattage and low wattage units, reviews:

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12070/the-corsair-tx550m-80plus-gold-psu-review/4

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=528

 

550w is just over 1% VReg on  so it falls into T2 (Also 52mV ripple under crossload which is hardly great), 750+w did near mythic/mythic and therefore fall into T1

[OrionFOTL]

6 hours ago, Energycore said:

According to this review the TX550M has a low holdup time of 8.8ms.

https://www.tweakpc.de/hardware/tests/netzteile/corsair_tx550m/s04.php

 

Good reason then, but other TXM units don't have accurate hold up time either.

 

4 hours ago, awesomegamer919 said:

Different performance between the high wattage and low wattage units, reviews:

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12070/the-corsair-tx550m-80plus-gold-psu-review/4

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=528

 

550w is just over 1% VReg on  so it falls into T2 (Also 52mV ripple under crossload which is hardly great), 750+w did near mythic/mythic and therefore fall into T1

Shouldn't compare results of different units across different sites, the methodology and equipment is different.

 

You can use Cybenetics data: https://www.cybenetics.com/code/pdf.php?id=YQI https://www.cybenetics.com/code/pdf.php?id=sGx

The TX550M scored 0.5% 12V load regulation and 32mV ripple (33mv on crossload), while TX750M scored 0.6% 12V load regulation and 49mV ripple (52mV under crossload).

And if 1% 12V load regulation and 52mV ripple was a reason for being in T2, then why is Riotoro Enigma (1.06% regulation, 52mV ripple at 100% and crossload, inaccurate hold up time on Toms Hardware) still in T1?

[Guest]

12 hours ago, JR88 said:

I guess on the crap tier for now. This Apevia is doing well though...beating the corsair CX the cx came with dead sata so I mean that's not cool.

How is the SATA dead?  Is it CX-M?  Is it just a bad SATA cable?

[JR88]

3 hours ago, jonnyGURU said:

How is the SATA dead?  Is it CX-M?  Is it just a bad SATA cable?

Yeah it's the CX650m...yeah it don't turn on hardrives or anything it's like there's no power and dead. 

[Stefan Payne]

2 hours ago, JR88 said:

Yeah it's the CX650m...yeah it don't turn on hardrives or anything it's like there's no power and dead. 

Are you talking about some high capacity Harddrives by any chance??
Ones that are specified "SATA 3.3"?

[JR88]

32 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

Are you talking about some high capacity Harddrives by any chance??
Ones that are specified "SATA 3.3"?

no just anything I tried plugging up to sata it's dead...

[Guest]

3 hours ago, JR88 said:

no just anything I tried plugging up to sata it's dead...

I believe that PSU comes with two modular SATA cables.   Did you try them both?  In multiple modular six pin ports?  Problem just doesn't make sense unless it's a bad cable. 

[Rexper]

Quote

TX550M has a low holdup time of 8.8ms.

 

Using data only from Cybenetics reports (TX550M report, TX650M report, TX750M report, and TX850M report):

 

TX550M:

•  Hold-Up Time (ms) = 12.10
• AC Loss to PWR_OK Hold Up Time (ms) = 9.48
• PWR_OK Inactive to DC Loss Delay (ms) = 2.62

TX650M:

•  Hold-Up Time (ms) = 13.1
• AC Loss to PWR_OK Hold Up Time (ms) = 9.3
• PWR_OK Inactive to DC Loss Delay (ms) = 3.8

TX750M:

•  Hold-Up Time (ms) = 15.7
• AC Loss to PWR_OK Hold Up Time (ms) = 13.3
• PWR_OK Inactive to DC Loss Delay (ms) = 2.4

TX850M:

•  Hold-Up Time (ms) = 17.68
• AC Loss to PWR_OK Hold Up Time (ms) = 13.9
• PWR_OK Inactive to DC Loss Delay (ms) = 3.78

 

[JR88]

13 minutes ago, jonnyGURU said:

I believe that PSU comes with two modular SATA cables.   Did you try them both?  In multiple modular six pin ports?  Problem just doesn't make sense unless it's a bad cable. 

Yeah I tried both and nothing.

[Guest]

58 minutes ago, JR88 said:

Yeah I tried both and nothing.

One drive at a time?  And you were using the cables that came with the PSU?

 

Just doesn't make sense.  I've been with Corsair 5+ years and I've NEVER seen that.

[JR88]

4 minutes ago, jonnyGURU said:

One drive at a time?  And you were using the cables that came with the PSU?

 

Just doesn't make sense.  I've been with Corsair 5+ years and I've NEVER seen that.

Yeah tried the cables and both slots..didn't power any of the drives and also hooked up a sata plug tried to run the pump off of it and Nothing dead.

 

The Apevia Beast is working though so far so good. 

[Guest]

23 minutes ago, JR88 said:

Yeah tried the cables and both slots..didn't power any of the drives and also hooked up a sata plug tried to run the pump off of it and Nothing dead.

 

The Apevia Beast is working though so far so good. 

Yeah, but that Apevia Beast is not modular (never mind being a horrible quality PSU that doesn't even have PFC).

 

Do you still have the CX-M?

[JR88]

Just now, jonnyGURU said:

Yeah, but that Apevia Beast is not modular (never mind being a horrible quality PSU that doesn't even have PFC).

 

Do you still have the CX-M?

Yeah....Yeah I still have it. I need to get a hold of Corsair and or try to Rma it.

[JR88]

31 minutes ago, jonnyGURU said:

Yeah, but that Apevia Beast is not modular (never mind being a horrible quality PSU that doesn't even have PFC).

 

Do you still have the CX-M?

I fiddled with it some more I plugged into the middle port and got the pump to work it all jumped etc...but then try to go to a few drives it don't work they don't show up in the Bios....so I don't know...rma. I tried different cables and even a Molex adapter still didn't work.

 

I know I wanted to use it I thought it was ok and a little better of a unit. 

[STRMfrmXMN]

2 hours ago, JR88 said:

I fiddled with it some more I plugged into the middle port and got the pump to work it all jumped etc...but then try to go to a few drives it don't work they don't show up in the Bios....so I don't know...rma. I tried different cables and even a Molex adapter still didn't work.

 

I know I wanted to use it I thought it was ok and a little better of a unit. 

That sounds like dead drives... not a defective PSU.

 

I have a feeling you may have plugged the peripheral/SATA connector that comes with the unit into the wrong plug on the end of the PSU or something, IDK.