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This is why you should avoid the Razer Blade Pro, along with every other Razer Product.

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  1. 1. Do you think Razer is a good company?

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If you a are a Razer fanboy, please read this post and become enlightened. 

 

tl;dr Razer does not care about their consumers past the initial sale. They only design their products so they're aesthetically appealing, not with reliability in mind.

 

Disclaimer: I own a Razer Blade Pro laptop. I have owned a $150 pair of headphones from Razer in the past too, which were unreliable until the day they croaked. Razer would not supply any support for the headphones.

For my laptop which is also having reliability issues, Razer refuses to get me into contact with a actual technician. They want me to send in a laptop which originally costed $2500 to charge me for repairs. They want to charge me $100 to even look at it.

 

Razer's Marketing Code Cracked

  1. Make something that's already established on the market.
  2. Think of something proprietary that you can add to it to catch people's eyes.
  3. This proprietary item does not have to be well executed, it just has to work for the pictures you put up on the website.
  4. Some poor 14 year old kid makes a uneducated decision based off of eye candy, spends saved up money on a Razer Product.
  5. Becomes a fanboy similar to the Xbox/PlayStation fanboys. He invested money in it, so he's going to defend it.
  6. The somehow pos company stays alive, despite the lack of care for consumers.

Razer doesn't give a shit if you're happy, they just want your money

Despite being publicly hated by most of the community, they're somehow still around. I'm trying to change that. 

Razer just needs to go bankrupt and die

I absolutely hate that Razer is somehow accepted in the market place, because it's only a while until their poor treatment of consumers will catch up to them. This is a attempt at that. If I can stop one person from purchasing a poorly made product, I will view this as a success.

 

A visible example of Razer's "quality", the Razer Blade Pro 2014 17"

I got this laptop for a good price from a friend, so I'm not too salty about it in general. However it's really sad that something that marks itself as a professional model is so unreliable.

By putting "Pro" in the name, they are establishing that it's the quality of a MacBook Pro, HP Elitebook, or the Thinkpad. I am here to denounce Razer's entrance into the professional market, because this laptop is anything but professional in construction.

This is coming from actual experience. So, let's start from something that is actually built with quality. A true professional laptop. My previous laptop, the HP Elitebook 8760w.

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This thing is a tank. It survived hitting concrete twice from about a 4ft drop because of a quick release on my backpack kids on campus thought would be funny to press. I also threw up on it once.

I took it apart to fix some cosmetic damage, and I was extremely pleased with it. I didn't need any guide when taking it apart, everything was clear and easy to work on. HP offers a full service manual for the laptop if you somehow need it for such a easy-to-work-on design. Everything in the laptop is modular. Despite it's size, the laptop was actually relatively light. Only a few pounds more than the Razer Blade Pro. The primary reason for thickness is proper cooling and a modular, easy going design. It's still beautiful despite its size. The 1080p display, i7, Quadro 3000m graphics, and 16GB of RAM enabled me to get everything I needed to get done for work. The best part yet, you can actually upgrade the GPU on it. It's a literal card. It also featured a all brushed-metal body. I got this laptop for $375 off eBay.

 

Now, back to Razer.

  • After taking it apart, everything inside of it is difficult to work on and you fear that every connector is going to somehow break when you release it.
  • Razer did not design this laptop for the enthusiast who wants to work on their equipment, they designed it for the kid who will break it in a year and get a new one.
  • The bottom of the laptop features a design of cheap plastic clips which will wear out and break if you work on it/dust it out semi-frequently. The battery is in a poor position, as mine is slightly bulged from what appears to be heat damage.
  • The SwitchBlade interface looks really cool, but it's actually utterly useless and is definitely not a valid reason to purchase the laptop. The display on it has anything but the touch sensitivity of a smartphone. Rather, it's relatively insensitive and the web browser app is completely useless.
  • The actual feel of the touchpad is really gross. It picks up finger prints even right after I wash my hands. It has a inconsistent feel to it because of the glass design. Razer really didn't think this one through.
  • You can't access the battery without voiding your warranty. You can't add RAM, or a secondary HDD/SSD without voiding your warranty.

tl;dr Everything quality wise is useless past cosmetics

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OH WOW A COMPANY WANTS TO MAKE MONEY OH JEEZ OH BOY CALL THE PRESSES. The razer blade is overpriced, but its a good product. Its like the iphone, costs a lot but god damn its built well. Also yea razer headphones are cancer tho. 

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2 minutes ago, Mohenjo said:

OH WOW A COMPANY WANTS TO MAKE MONEY OH JEEZ OH BOY CALL THE PRESSES. The razer blade is overpriced, but its a good product. Its like the iphone, costs a lot but god damn its built well. Also yea razer headphones are cancer tho. 

Read the post, it's not a good product.

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It's hard to take the article seriously.

It's so biased nothing in it can be believed. 

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Linus uses Razer products and has liked them in the past.

 

Ive own many Razer products and never had a problem.

 

This seems to just be a case of receiving a bad product, or just bias? Idk, Razer is kinda overpriced but they make relatively well made products and I will continue to buy from them if they make a product I would use and or need.

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2 minutes ago, im_an_wizard said:

Read the post, it's not a good product.

Your basing it off an enthusiast level...its not an enthusiast laptop. A lot of compromises needed to be made to allow the laptop to be in the form factor that its in. though i will admit the hard drive is a bit bullshit (if its true) the laptop was not built to be easily taken apart because of its size. 

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4 minutes ago, Trav_X said:

Linus uses Razer products and has liked them in the past.

 

Ive own many Razer products and never had a problem.

 

This seems to just be a case of receiving a bad product, or just bias? Idk, Razer is kinda overpriced but they make relatively well made products and I will continue to buy from them if they make a product I would use and or need.

For a laptop that costs $2500, it should be problem free.

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6 minutes ago, im_an_wizard said:

For a laptop that costs $2500, it should be problem free.

Nothing is perfect :P any product you buy could possibly have problems.

 

But is does sound pretty bogus that you couldn't get any support for your product.

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6 minutes ago, im_an_wizard said:

For a laptop that costs $2500, it should be problem free.

there is no such thing as problem free. Infact, the most expensive products have the biggest issues. 

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3 minutes ago, Mohenjo said:

there is no such thing as problem free. Infact, the most expensive products have the biggest issues. 

I guarantee you that the Macbook Pro, which is in a similar price range, would be much more dependable. This is me recommending a Apple product over a PC, this is a first time experience.

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Razer laptops are a bad product - 96*C out of the box and 60dB fans. Fuck off.

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Oh it's shit like all other razer laptops and uhh the thermal throttle so nice, the shorter life spand because the cpu and gpu runs hot uuuhhh even nicer.

I would rather buy a macbook and put windows on it over a god damn razer shit blade. Even a macbook is nicer to fix and they are a pain in the ass.

 

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razers products are fine mate, asside from their headphones that is. 

 

Even personally my black widow has made a recovery three times now after being drenched with various liquids while in use by my little sister. Whether it was water, coke, or soup. Sure it was a total bitch to desolder the metal plate from the pcb to clean it off, but it survived everytime. 

 

Sucks you had a bad experience, but just because you do not personally like an item, or brand, does not inherently make it bad. Also, wheres this "majority [of the tech community] who hate razer" outside of youtube? 

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5 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Razer laptops are a bad product - 96*C out of the box and 60dB fans. Fuck off.

its 56 C max, where did you get 96 C

 

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1 minute ago, Mohenjo said:

what the fuck, where the hell did you get 96 C????? its 56 C max 

 

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That's a borked sensor - do you not see the obvious thorrtling? The GPU is running at 84*C as well - aka thermal throttling since that's the thermal max on a 970M before clocks get dropped

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2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

That's a borked sensor - do you not see the obvious thorrtling? The GPU is running at 84*C as well - aka thermal throttling since that's the thermal max on a 970M before clocks get dropped

Ok, i will agree if you show me the evidence of the 2016 razer blade going up to 95 C

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Just now, Mohenjo said:

Ok, i will agree if you show me the evidence of the 2016 razer blade going up to 95 C

85-90 after 15 mins of watching Hulu
https://insider.razerzone.com/index.php?threads/2016-razer-blade-temps-under-load.13590/

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2 minutes ago, Mohenjo said:

Ok, i will agree if you show me the evidence of the 2016 razer blade going up to 95 C

Temps
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2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Temps
 

how does 15 min of hulu equate to 100 percent cpu usage?

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1 minute ago, Mohenjo said:

how does 15 min of hulu equate to 100 percent cpu usage?

Exactly - under light load it hits 90*C - imagine under max load (hence the throttling in the video and the windblower fans)

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1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

Exactly - under light load it hits 90*C - imagine under max load (hence the throttling in the video and the windblower fans)

no, i mean how does hulu use 100 percent of the CPU is what im asking

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Just now, Mohenjo said:

no, i mean how does hulu use 100 percent of the CPU is what im asking

It doesn't but even under light laod such as Hulu you can see 90*C...

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1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

It doesn't but even under light laod such as Hulu you can see 90*C...

wait wait wait. So lets just clear this. The cpu currently is at low usage right. Your looking at the max temp when the cpu was at 100 percent. The cpu as of that picture was running on 49 C. When the CPU was at 100 percent it reached temps of 90 degrees...

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