AMD Zen processors to have "double the performance of the FX 8350", performance pictures posted

[Z3DT]

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AMD has revealed that Zen will have double the performance of the FX 8350 and will trade blows with Intel’s eight core i7 5960X Extreme Edition.

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Compared to AMD’s “Orochi” quad module, eight core die powering the FX 8350, the Zen based desktop Summit Ridge eight core CPU delivers double the performance in Cinebench R15. This means that a single Zen core is in effect equivalent to two Piledriver cores in performance

 

AMD seems to be making quite the comeback. I'm interested to see whether the Zen chips will make buying an AMD chip for a higher-end machine will be worth it again.

 

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Get it AMD. 

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#MakeAMDGreatAgain

[don_svetlio]

I was expecting 4790K performance but 5960X? hard to believe honestly

[GtaSeriesFan]

we will see upgrading to skylake in 2 months so happy with that for the coming 2-3 years. but if amd PUSHES their proccesor further they maybe make a chance.

[ZetZet]

3 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

I was expecting 4790K performance but 5960X? hard to believe honestly

good news if it does. that means industry is getting a serious shove. 

[FirstArmada]

3 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

I was expecting 4790K performance but 5960X? hard to believe honestly

AMDs initially fabricating octa and hexa core chips so 8 cores with Haswell like IPC, I suspect preformance inbetween 4960x and 5960x for the flagship chip

[GtaSeriesFan]

1 minute ago, FirstArmada said:

AMDs initially fabricating octa and hexa core chips so 8 cores with Haswell like IPC, I suspect preformance inbetween 4960x and 5960x for the flagship chip

they are getting close intel maybe affraid but i don't think.

[DioOmicida]

Nvidia recently released a photo about their 1080 cards performing twice as good sa the current offering.
Another double performance claim, I see. 

[GtaSeriesFan]

"big performance leap expected" so not yet confirmed right?

[Tomsen]

Orochi is bulldozer die, so not the FX 8350 but rather the 8150.

 

[Z3DT]

1 minute ago, GtaSeriesFan said:

they are getting close intel maybe affraid but i don't think.

For the love of God, please use punctuation.

 

But yeah, AMD is finally becoming relevant again. I'm not going to make any guesses on performance or where I expect it to be, but if the claims are right that's really impressive, especially considering AMD's general price/performance.

[InsanelySecretD]

With how slow things are imrpvoing these days, we could have expected AMD to get closer and closer to Intel with their products. I guess Moore's law irunning out of steam s working in their favour. 

[Enderman]

3 minutes ago, DioOmicida said:

Nvidia recently released a photo about their 1080 cards performing twice as good sa the current offering.
Another double performance claim, I see. 

their "2x better" claims were about VR

they showed its 30% better in regular games

maybe try to pay more attention next time

[Ostwind]

Would be interesting to see something from AMD come right out and go to bat with intel's extreme chips. I think that would give intel the push they need to finally break into 6+ cores on the mainstream socket and then even more on the extreme socket. If this level of performance turns out to be true then AMD won't even have to be that aggressive with the pricing since it would be performing on par with the more expensive intel offerings, they could ask for a similar price to the mainstream i7 while performing like the big boy chips in heavy apps. I'm also interested to see how single core performance pans out in games, since the 6700k is better than any of the extreme offerings for just gaming. I can't help but wonder how these Zen chips will clock up.

 

Anyone have guesses for pricing?

[DioOmicida]

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

their "2x better" claims were about VR

they showed its 30% better in regular games

maybe try to pay more attention next time

mhm

[GtaSeriesFan]

2 minutes ago, Z3DT said:

For the love of God, please use punctuation.

 

But yeah, AMD is finally becoming relevant again. I'm not going to make any guesses on performance or where I expect it to be, but if the claims are right that's really impressive, especially considering AMD's general price/performance.

"big performance leap expected" so this is not yet confirmed.

[Trixanity]

10 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

I was expecting 4790K performance but 5960X? hard to believe honestly

Well, since they're both Haswell: getting similar performance to one means similar performance to both. 

 

But this once again confirms what I've been saying all along: Summit Ridge is an enthusiast product and therefore competes with Intel's enthusiast product: Haswell-E (and its successors). 8 cores don't compete with 4 in the desktop market. 

[Maslofski]

but do they run on Z170?

[ace_cheaply]

I just got a 6700k last week, so I won't be buying a high tier Zen product, but this does get me excited about the Zen desktop apu for a new htpc build to replace my long in the tooth q6600 hd 4870 build

[MadyTehWolfie]

28 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

I was expecting 4790K performance but 5960X? hard to believe honestly

5960X loses to lower cpu's in games though so unless your doing production or a game is cpu intensive wont bet on it beating the regular i7's all the time

[VerticalDiscussions]

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AMD has revealed that Zen will have double the performance of the FX 8350 and will trade blows with Intel’s eight core i7 5960X Extreme Edition.

You mean Zen "Pro" + I7-5960X like this?

 

[patrickjp93]

41 minutes ago, ZetZet said:

good news if it does. that means industry is getting a serious shove. 

No it doesn't. When AMD catches up to Intel in instruction latencies, it finally gets difficult to extract more performance (pipeline depth, branch prediction, loop detection, and result forwarding between instructions have already been implemented and have net Intel only 15% more performance on the whole). And if people want to buy more cores when the software ecosystem is just getting out of its diapers in multithreading, that's going to be both a bad investment in the short and long term.

[Ostwind]

5 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

No it doesn't. When AMD catches up to Intel in instruction latencies, it finally gets difficult to extract more performance (pipeline depth, branch prediction, loop detection, and result forwarding between instructions have already been implemented and have net Intel only 15% more performance on the whole). And if people want to buy more cores when the software ecosystem is just getting out of its diapers in multithreading, that's going to be both a bad investment in the short and long term.

moar corz tho....

[Bananasplit_00]

this NEEDS to be good. there is nothing evolving in the computer world because AMD is doing shit and not competing