Posted May 13, 2016 Open GL? *sigh* Hopefully they hop onto Vulkan later. Make sure to quote me or tag me when responding to me, or I might not know you replied! Examples: Do this: Quote And make sure you do it by hitting the quote button at the bottom left of my post, and not the one inside the editor! Or this: @DocSwag Buy whatever product is best for you, not what product is "best" for the market. Interested in computer architecture? Still in middle or high school? P.M. me! I love computer hardware and feel free to ask me anything about that (or phones). I especially like SSDs. But please do not ask me anything about Networking, programming, command line stuff, or any relatively hard software stuff. I know next to nothing about that. Compooters: Spoiler Desktop: Spoiler CPU: i7 6700k, CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3, Motherboard: MSI Z170a KRAIT GAMING, RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 4x4gb DDR4-2666 MHz, Storage: SanDisk SSD Plus 240gb + OCZ Vertex 180 480 GB + Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 7200 RPM, Video Card: EVGA GTX 970 SSC, Case: Fractal Design Define S, Power Supply: Seasonic Focus+ Gold 650w Yay, Keyboard: Logitech G710+, Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum, Headphones: B&O H9i, Monitor: LG 29um67 (2560x1080 75hz freesync) Home Server: Spoiler CPU: Pentium G4400, CPU Cooler: Stock, Motherboard: MSI h110l Pro Mini AC, RAM: Hyper X Fury DDR4 1x8gb 2133 MHz, Storage: PNY CS1311 120gb SSD + two Segate 4tb HDDs in RAID 1, Video Card: Does Intel Integrated Graphics count?, Case: Fractal Design Node 304, Power Supply: Seasonic 360w 80+ Gold, Keyboard+Mouse+Monitor: Does it matter? Laptop (I use it for school): Spoiler Surface book 2 13" with an i7 8650u, 8gb RAM, 256 GB storage, and a GTX 1050 And if you're curious (or a stalker) I have a Just Black Pixel 2 XL 64gb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 13, 2016 So a 960 and the R9 380x are beating the 780......yeah. If you want to reply back to me or someone else USE THE QUOTE BUTTON! Pascal laptops guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 13, 2016 Vulkan patch is on it's way, not ready for launch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 13, 2016 2 hours ago, ivan134 said: Leave it to @zMeulto let his eyes only let him see what he wants to see. Did you also notice that the 380x is also faster than a 780 and 390? Of course you didn't. That wouldn't help your narrative that the problem is only on AMD's side or that the issue affects all AMD cards the same way. Pst, the API is the cause... "We also blind small animals with cosmetics. We do not sell cosmetics. We just blind animals." "Please don't mistake us for Equifax. Those fuckers are evil" This PSA brought to you by Equifacks. PMSL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 13, 2016 The gimping of Kepler continues. Motherboard: Asus X570-E CPU: 3900x 4.3GHZ Memory: G.skill Trident GTZR 3200mhz cl14 GPU: AMD RX 570 SSD1: Corsair MP510 1TB SSD2: Samsung MX500 500GB PSU: Corsair AX860i Platinum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 13, 2016 Great that Vulkan will be supported soon for DOOM | Ryzen 7 7800X3D | AM5 B650 Aorus Elite AX | G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB DDR5 32GB 6000MHz C30 | Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XTX | Samsung 990 PRO 1TB with heatsink | Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 | Seasonic Focus GX-850 | Lian Li Lanccool III | Mousepad: Skypad 3.0 XL / Zowie GTF-X | Mouse: Zowie S1-C | Keyboard: Ducky One 3 TKL (Cherry MX-Speed-Silver) | Beyerdynamic MMX 300 (2nd Gen) | Acer XV272U | OS: Windows 11 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 14, 2016 OpenGL is bad on AMD cards, has been for years now, Not enough big releases use openGL these days, for them to spend time and money optimizing their drivers... Also who in 2016 makes a game for PC that doesn't support DirectX, Id are moron's putting their own personal grief with Microsoft ahead of the consumer. I thought this game supported Vulkan out of the box? ----Ryzen R9 5900X----X570 Aorus elite----Vetroo V5----240GB Kingston HyperX 3k----Samsung 250GB EVO840----512GB Kingston Nvme----3TB Seagate----4TB Western Digital Green----8TB Seagate----32GB Patriot Viper 4 3200Mhz CL 16 ----Power Color Red dragon 5700XT----Fractal Design R4 Black Pearl ----Corsair RM850w---- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 14, 2016 47 minutes ago, super_skank said: OpenGL is bad on AMD cards, has been for years now, Not enough big releases use openGL these days, for them to spend time and money optimizing their drivers... Also who in 2016 makes a game for PC that doesn't support DirectX, Id are moron's putting their own personal grief with Microsoft ahead of the consumer. I thought this game supported Vulkan out of the box? There are several reasons not to support DX12 in favor of Vulkan. 1. Vulkan is open source. 2. Vulkan supports practically anything, including the big elephants in the ''API room'', PS4 and PS4.5. This also includes other operating systems, which mean we can finally rid ourselves of Windows and possibly avoid W10 altogether. 3. Microsoft has recently attempted to get more involved with PC gaming. Which disturbs me to the very core. Id software is doing us a favor by not supporting DX12. And i am happy to bypass such stellar titles such as Quantum Break, whos only claim to fame was that it was a very early DX12 game. No one reading or commenting on the forums were actually hyped for the game itself. To put it like this, i haven't the slightest fucking clue what that game was about. Motherboard: Asus X570-E CPU: 3900x 4.3GHZ Memory: G.skill Trident GTZR 3200mhz cl14 GPU: AMD RX 570 SSD1: Corsair MP510 1TB SSD2: Samsung MX500 500GB PSU: Corsair AX860i Platinum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 14, 2016 27 minutes ago, MMKing said: There are several reasons not to support DX12 in favor of Vulkan. 1. Vulkan is open source. 2. Vulkan supports practically anything, including the big elephants in the ''API room'', PS4 and PS4.5. This also includes other operating systems, which mean we can finally rid ourselves of Windows and possibly avoid W10 altogether. 3. Microsoft has recently attempted to get more involved with PC gaming. Which disturbs me to the very core. Id software is doing us a favor by not supporting DX12. And i am happy to bypass such stellar titles such as Quantum Break, whos only claim to fame was that it was a very early DX12 game. No one reading or commenting on the forums were actually hyped for the game itself. To put it like this, i haven't the slightest fucking clue what that game was about. i never said DirectX 12, i said directX... Rid ourselves of windows, lol....if it wasn't for windows 90% on here would be fucked, as linux is fucking shite as a gaming OS...Drivers are shit, installing drivers requires a degree in computer science.....75% of games are not compatible, and the ones that are run half as well as they do in windows.....all this linux is the future of gaming is absolute bollocks, same old shit i have been hearing since 1999. Don't even get me started on fixing it when the GUI fucks up, oh and it will fuck up, trust me...most of the time resulting in a complete OS reinstall. Just this week my install of mint totally fucked up because of the AMD drivers was so fucking convoluted and hard to follow, i some how ended up deleting X-org and having No GUI to boot into........stuff like this is why linux will always make up a tiny minority of desktop users, until they make it foolproof, it might as well not exist to gamers. Support Vulkan great, But use the API that is optimized for 99.9% of us too. ----Ryzen R9 5900X----X570 Aorus elite----Vetroo V5----240GB Kingston HyperX 3k----Samsung 250GB EVO840----512GB Kingston Nvme----3TB Seagate----4TB Western Digital Green----8TB Seagate----32GB Patriot Viper 4 3200Mhz CL 16 ----Power Color Red dragon 5700XT----Fractal Design R4 Black Pearl ----Corsair RM850w---- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, super_skank said: i never said DirectX 12, i said directX... Rid ourselves of windows, lol....if it wasn't for windows 90% on here would be fucked, as linux is fucking shite as a gaming OS...Drivers are shit, installing drivers requires a degree in computer science.....75% of games are not compatible, and the ones that are run half as well as they do in windows.....all this linux is the future of gaming is absolute bollocks, same old shit i have been hearing since 1999. Don't even get me started on fixing it when the GUI fucks up, oh and it will fuck up, trust me...most of the time resulting in a complete OS reinstall. Just this week my install of mint totally fucked up because of the AMD drivers was so fucking convoluted and hard to follow, i some how ended up deleting X-org and having No GUI to boot into........stuff like this is why linux will always make up a tiny minority of desktop users, until they make it foolproof, it might as well not exist to gamers. Support Vulkan great, But use the API that is optimized for 99.9% of us too. Found the problem, you accidentally switched on the PC when you should have marched your computer illiterate ass to the TV and turn on the console. You must have missed the part where it said that Vulkan runs on practically anything, which includes Windows 10. If you want to run backwards spyware OS that is your decision. I will continue to cheer on developers using Vulkan, which can be used on Windows, linux and more. Motherboard: Asus X570-E CPU: 3900x 4.3GHZ Memory: G.skill Trident GTZR 3200mhz cl14 GPU: AMD RX 570 SSD1: Corsair MP510 1TB SSD2: Samsung MX500 500GB PSU: Corsair AX860i Platinum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 14, 2016 I like how the R9 380X is beating the R9 290 and GTX 780. I don't read the reply to my posts anymore so don't bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 14, 2016 Just so everyone knows, the game has has been shown off using Vulkan already, and the developers said that Vulkan was coming "very shortly" after release. The game has been out for 24 hours only, so expect these numbers to change once Vulkan is patched in. System: i7-6700k @ 4.5 GHz | Gigabyte G1 Gaming GTX 1080 | 16GB Corsair LPX DDR4-3000 | Gigabyte GA-Z170N Gaming 5 ITX | | Corsair SF600 SFX PSU | Seagate 2TB HDD, 1TB SSHD | Samsung 840 Evo 120GB Boot Drive | Silverstone ML08B-H | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 14, 2016 55 minutes ago, MMKing said: Found the problem, you accidentally switched on the PC when you should have marched your computer illiterate ass to the TV and turn on the console. You must have missed the part where it said that Vulkan runs on practically anything, which includes Windows 10. If you want to run backwards spyware OS that is your decision. I will continue to cheer on developers using Vulkan, which can be used on Windows, linux and more. Actually pal i am a computer technician, and have probably forgotten more about PC's than you will ever fucking know... ----Ryzen R9 5900X----X570 Aorus elite----Vetroo V5----240GB Kingston HyperX 3k----Samsung 250GB EVO840----512GB Kingston Nvme----3TB Seagate----4TB Western Digital Green----8TB Seagate----32GB Patriot Viper 4 3200Mhz CL 16 ----Power Color Red dragon 5700XT----Fractal Design R4 Black Pearl ----Corsair RM850w---- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 14, 2016 1 hour ago, MMKing said: There are several reasons not to support DX12 in favor of Vulkan. 1. Vulkan is open source. 2. Vulkan supports practically anything, including the big elephants in the ''API room'', PS4 and PS4.5. This also includes other operating systems, which mean we can finally rid ourselves of Windows and possibly avoid W10 altogether. 3. Microsoft has recently attempted to get more involved with PC gaming. Which disturbs me to the very core. Id software is doing us a favor by not supporting DX12. And i am happy to bypass such stellar titles such as Quantum Break, whos only claim to fame was that it was a very early DX12 game. No one reading or commenting on the forums were actually hyped for the game itself. To put it like this, i haven't the slightest fucking clue what that game was about. That's not what he's talking about. The game launched with only OpenGL. No dx 11 or Vulkan. These benchmarks are for OpenGL. CPU i7 6700 Cooling Cryorig H7 Motherboard MSI H110i Pro AC RAM Kingston HyperX Fury 16GB DDR4 2133 GPU Pulse RX 5700 XT Case Fractal Design Define Mini C Storage Trascend SSD370S 256GB + WD Black 320GB + Sandisk Ultra II 480GB + WD Blue 1TB PSU EVGA GS 550 Display Nixeus Vue24B FreeSync 144 Hz Monitor (VESA mounted) Keyboard Aorus K3 Mechanical Keyboard Mouse Logitech G402 OS Windows 10 Home 64 bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 14, 2016 7 hours ago, bobhays said: It beat a 780, this isn't a problem with AMD, it's that for some reason the 900 series is doing really well. It could be that the Maxwell architecture does well here and it's further proof that nVidia isn't gimping previous generation performance- The 1070 should perform around the 980ti, and 1080 a bit higher than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 14, 2016 Yeah, let's not mention the fact that the R9 390 is getting its ass handed to the 380X and 960, but emphasize the fact that the 980 Ti is pulling ahead of the Fury X by a disturbing amount. Check out my guide on how to scan cover art here! Local asshole and 6th generation console enthusiast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said: Yeah, let's not mention the fact that the R9 390 is getting its ass handed to the 380X and 960, but emphasize the fact that the 980 Ti is pulling ahead of the Fury X by a disturbing amount.X the game run stupidly well man...i have it on everything at max even the anti-aliasing is set to TSSAA (8TX) and i get upward of 100FPS consistently at 2560x1440...maxed out completely. | CPU: Core i7-8700K @ 4.89ghz - 1.21v | Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING | CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 | | GPU: MSI RTX 3080Ti Ventus 3X OC | RAM: 32GB T-Force Delta RGB 3066mhz | | Displays: Acer Predator XB270HU 1440p Gsync 144hz IPS Gaming monitor | Oculus Quest 2 VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 14, 2016 Just now, i_build_nanosuits said: the game run stupidly well man...i have it on everything at max even the anti-aliasing is set to TSSAA (8TX) and i get upward of 100FPS consistently at 2560x1440...maxed out completely. I mean more power to you, but something is really wrong here. Check out my guide on how to scan cover art here! Local asshole and 6th generation console enthusiast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 14, 2016 Just now, Dan Castellaneta said: I mean more power to you, but something is really wrong here. benchmarked by a drunk drug dealer?! i don't know...i don't see why the 380X would be faster than a 290X (come on!) and why a 960 would hand it's ass to the GTX 780 like that...it just does not make sense...but that #superjetstreamFTW though... | CPU: Core i7-8700K @ 4.89ghz - 1.21v | Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING | CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 | | GPU: MSI RTX 3080Ti Ventus 3X OC | RAM: 32GB T-Force Delta RGB 3066mhz | | Displays: Acer Predator XB270HU 1440p Gsync 144hz IPS Gaming monitor | Oculus Quest 2 VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 14, 2016 If this is on OpenGL and if Vulkan is half way decent then 1080 sorta sucks. When it get around 980ti in doom on Vulkan. 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Posted May 14, 2016 11 hours ago, zMeul said: id has always used OpenGL for all (??!) their titles, that's what they know and that's what they'll use - they'll jump to Vulkan most likely, for their next project ... hopefully They are already jumping on Vulkan for this project. The patch should come within a few weeks. How optimized it will be I do not know because it's their first Vulkan experience and it remains to be seen how well they will implement it or if they will take time to really optimize their vulkan renderer, it depends how long they have had this cooking internally. I expect AMD GPUs to get a decent boost, not because Vulkan is some magic sauce but because AMD's openGL driver is so slow that vulkan will obviously look good by comparison as long as iD implements it decently. That doesn't mean that AMD will beat Nvidia but it does mean that they should beat their own openGL performance. 11 hours ago, Megahurt said: If Vulkan is coming, why did they even bother with openGL Because there are still people who have decent GPUs which do not support Vulkan. e.g. an AMD 6970 or a GTX 580 and other stuff from that generation. You don't want to restrict your major AAA game to only be compatible on GPUs released within the last couple generations. The steam hardware survey shows the truth, there are plenty people who will tweak down graphics settings and use older GPUs.Obviously as time goes on this will be not be an issue as everyone will have a vulkan compatible GPU.... by 2018 I guess there will be no reason for a AAA game to ship openGL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 14, 2016 Let's see... Work on the Id Tech 6 engine (what Doom (2016) here is running) started R&D in July 2011 (a few months before the Id Tech 5 engine was initially released), with a beta of Doom (2016) for buyers of Wolfenstein: The New Order in 2014. Khronos Group formally announced Vulkan at GDC 2015. So yeah, OpenGL would have been what the new Doom was initially built around since Vulkan was announced a bit over a year ago and the most recent stable release was at the end of April 2016 (initial release in mid-Feb 2016), so it would have to be added in after initial versions of the game were locked down and pushed to being rated by and certified for countries and consoles a few months before game release. Spoiler Main Rig: Monsuta (Build log). Spoiler OS: Windows 10 Pro. CPU: Intel Core i7 5820K. Mobo: MSI X99A SLI Krait Edition. RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum CMD32GX4M4A2400C14 64GB (8x8GB) DDR4. GPU: 2-way SLI EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti Superclocked+ ACX 2.0+ 6GB. Storage: Seagate Barracuda 4TB ST4000DM000 (long-term) & Samsung 850 EVO M.2 500GB SSD (OS/Data). Case: Thermaltake Core X71 Full Tower Case. PSU: Antec High Current Pro Platinum 850W Modular. Cooling: CoolerMaster Nepton 120XL Liquid CPU Cooler/2x EKWB TitanX Plexi (with Nickel backplates) + EK XRES 140 DDC 3.2 PWM Elite (inc. pump) + 2x EKWB 360 SE rads + 6x EK Vardar F4 120mm fans (recovered from dead Beast). Monitors: Acer XG270HU + 2x AOC AG271QG4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 14, 2016 the game is broken 40 fps on 670 and 120 on 980 thats just abnormal, gtx 960 is just slightly better than 670 and yet gets double performance, seems like nvidia and doom developers only optimized for latest arhitectures ignoring the old ones to make people buy the new generations, just in time for their release, they cant fool me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 15, 2016 > Releases a mainstream game > Uses OpenGL as API Wat. We have a NEW and GLORIOUSER-ER-ER PSU Tier List Now. (dammit @LukeSavenije stop coming up with new ones) You can check out the old one that gave joy to so many across the land here Computer having a hard time powering on? Troubleshoot it with this guide. (Currently looking for suggestions to update it into the context of <current year> and make it its own thread) Computer Specs: Spoiler Mathresolvermajig: Intel Xeon E3 1240 (Sandy Bridge i7 equivalent) Chillinmachine: Noctua NH-C14S Framepainting-inator: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 Hybrid Attachcorethingy: Gigabyte H61M-S2V-B3 Infoholdstick: Corsair 2x4GB DDR3 1333 Computerarmor: Silverstone RL06 "Lookalike" Rememberdoogle: 1TB HDD + 120GB TR150 + 240 SSD Plus + 1TB MX500 AdditionalPylons: Phanteks AMP! 550W (based on Seasonic GX-550) Letterpad: Rosewill Apollo 9100 (Cherry MX Red) Buttonrodent: Razer Viper Mini + Huion H430P drawing Tablet Auralnterface: Sennheiser HD 6xx Liquidrectangles: LG 27UK850-W 4K HDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 15, 2016 The game for me has been running smooth as butter. Maxed out completely with a solid 60Fps. Intel Core I7 7820X | Asus Rampage VI | Gigabyte RX 580 XTR | 32GB Crucial Ballistix | NZXT Kraken X62 ADATA XPG 256GB PCIe| Cosmos C700P CM | Lepa MaxPlatinum 1050W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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