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E-cigs are to require FDA review

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"The federal government announced sweeping new rules Thursday for electronic cigarettes that will for the first time require the devices and their ingredients to be reviewed, a mandate that could offer protection for consumers and upend a multibillion dollar industry that has gone largely unregulated.  Before brands are allowed to stay in the market, regulators will check the e-cigarettes' design and the liquid nicotine they contain. The fast-growing devices have found a foothold with teenagers."

 

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"For now, e-cigarette users may not see big changes. Companies have two years to submit their information to the FDA and another year while the agency reviews it. The review process applies to products introduced after 2007, which includes nearly all of them. Government officials said the reviews are critical to taming the "wild west" marketplace."

 

Source: FDA will require e-cigarettes and contents to be reviewed - Associated Press May 5th

Source 2.0: U.S. Food and Drug Administration: E.N.D.S.

 

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Awesome!  Been wanting this to happen for awhile myself to be honest.  Will be nice to know what evidence, if any, there is to support the constant claims that vaping is safer than smoking.  Even if true, which I suspect it could be, there isn't squat available that describes what users are still in for and having it finally be regulated will make it so that there will be funds available for the research and studies one way or another.

Additionally having these products be regulated will help to ensure that one is vaping what they think they're vaping and not some ridiculously high dose of nicotine that is mislabeled or miss advertised.  Not to mention whatever else is injected into these fluids which are currently a complete mystery to users.

 

Now, I am currently seeing a crap ton of dogmatic videos on youtube that have just popped up in the last few days of people raving in a fox news fashion about how "the man" is bringing the hammer down on the little guy and will bring back the grandeur of old big tobacco.  Was actually the reason I started this post was to point out about the crap ton of anti-news flying about youtube, until I thought a bit better of it.  So if you're one of the people like myself getting flooded with drivel news, just remember:

"a lie which is half a truth is ever the blackest of lies"  - Alfred, Lord Tennyson

 

Other recent related news:

"E-cigarette poisonings surge in young children, U.S. study says" - CTV News

 

Disclaimer:  I do NOT condone or recommend the use of either e-cigs or tobacco in anyway.  I smoked for over 16 years and since have been vaping for about 3 years; and I hate how, to this day, my mouth still waters whenever I catch a wiff of someone smoking a real cigarette even when it now smells quite gross to me. (my brain is fracked.. that however... is not news)

 

:edit: Using quote tags multiple times in a post is still fracked on the forums

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Finally. They aren't nearly as bad as normal cigs but they still have an effect.

Thats that. If you need to get in touch chances are you can find someone that knows me that can get in touch.

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Awesome!  Been wanting this to happen for awhile myself to be honest.  Will be nice to know what evidence, if any, there is to support the constant claims that vaping is safer than smoking.  Even if true, which I suspect it could be, there isn't squat available that describes what users are still in for and having it finally be regulated will make it so that there will be funds available for the research and studies one way or another.

Additionally having these products be regulated will help to ensure that one is vaping what they think they're vaping and not some ridiculously dose of nicotine that is mislabeled or miss advertised.  Not to mention whatever else is injected into these fluids which are currently a complete misery to users.

 

Now, I am currently seeing a crap ton of dogmatic videos on youtube that have just popped up in the last few days of people raving in a fox news fashion about how "the man" is bringing the hammer down on the little guy and will bring back the grandeur of old big tobacco.  Was actually the reason I started this post was to point out about the crap ton of anti-news flying about youtube, until I thought a bit better of it.  So if you're one of the people like myself getting flooded with drivel news, just remember:

"a lie which is half a truth is ever the blackest of lies"  - Alfred, Lord Tennyson

 

 

Other recent related news:

"E-cigarette poisonings surge in young children, U.S. study says" - CTV News

 

 

Disclaimer:  I do NOT condone or recommend the use of either e-cigs or tobacco in anyway.  I smoked for over 16 years and since have been vaping for about 3 years; and I hate how, to this day, my mouth still waters whenever I catch a wiff of someone smoking a real cigarette even when it now smells quite gross to me.(my brain is fracked.. that however... is not news)

 

:edit: Using quote tags multiple times is still fracked on the forums

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lol

 

Seriously, though, I agree, there are lots of kids getting really into it and it can be concerning because there is still nicotine...

For anyone claiming its healthier (not saying its not but we don't really know) just remember we used to think smoking and chewing tobacco improved your health, so don't believe everything until you hear the evidence.

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6 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

Good. Now if only we could do the same for something that's actually intentionally lethal like guns... Oh wait my 2nd ammendment! :(

A cigarette and a gun are to different things lol. 

A gun doesn't have to be used badly.

A Cigarette can ONLY be used badly.

Difference. 

 

 

 

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i love how people say "i vape becase its healthier than smoking" (especially the ones who didnt smoke in the first place) its like okay want to know what's healthier than vaping? not vaping. and they say oh well no one has died or it cant give you cancer, well lets see what happens in 50 years to all the people who vape today.

 

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meh, i prefer pot

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9 minutes ago, Arty said:

A cigarette and a gun are to different things lol. 

A gun doesn't have to be used badly.

A Cigarette can ONLY be used badly.

Difference. 

Yes a gun is made to be used badly but you dont have to use it badly.

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1 minute ago, thekeemo said:

Yes a gun is made to be used badly but you dont have to use it badly.

Depends on the gun ;), 

You can use a gun for recreation...  :D.

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Arty said:

Depends on the gun ;), 

You can use a gun for recreation...  :D.

Sure gun ranges, but then why not use rubber bullets? Why lead? Why hollow points?

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@MoonSpot That's good news, it's mainly been unregulated for a long time and was shown to be actually just as harmful as cigarettes on many occasions by third party research groups.

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12 minutes ago, GreezyJeezy said:

i love how people say "i vape becase its healthier than smoking" (especially the ones who didnt smoke in the first place) its like okay want to know what's healthier than vaping? not vaping. and they say oh well no one has died or it cant give you cancer, well lets see what happens in 50 years to all the people who vape today.

Totally agree. Yes, vaping is a much healthier way to get your nicotine fix than smoking. Obviously. But it's not as healthy as not doing either. If you're an existing smoker, give vaping a try. It will have many benefits. If you don't smoke, don't start. Especially as a kid, nicotine on its own is really bad for you and we don't really know what else vaping does in the long term.

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3 minutes ago, thekeemo said:

Sure gun ranges, but then why not use rubber bullets? Why lead? Why hollow points?

Hollow points are illegal, at least as far as i know. 

IDK i don't use guns, nor do i own one.

 

 

 

 

 

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@MoonSpot That's good news, it's mainly been unregulated for a long time and was shown to be actually just as harmful as cigarettes on many occasions by third party research groups.

Only thing I've seen was either Stanford or Harvard looking at a sample of some 60 odd varieties.  And most of the "bad" ones listed in it are no longer available in my area.  I've not seen any particularly damning or glowing studies of vaping as a whole though and if you got links I'd like to check them out too.

Not that I think it a good thing to do, obviously.

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1 minute ago, MoonSpot said:

Only thing I've seen was either Stanford or Harvard looking at a sample of some 60 odd varieties.  And most of the "bad" one listed in it are no longer available in my area.

I have not seen any particularly damning or glowing studies though and if you got links I'd like to check them out too.

I was reading an article the other day, might have been The Verge, saying that a pretty significant number of the studies done on e-cigs are either funded by the companies making them, poorly run or otherwise unusable.

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9 minutes ago, GreezyJeezy said:

i love how people say "i vape becase its healthier than smoking" (especially the ones who didnt smoke in the first place) its like okay want to know what's healthier than vaping? not vaping. and they say oh well no one has died or it cant give you cancer, well lets see what happens in 50 years to all the people who vape today.

Well if they were smokers before and they say vaping has helped them quit Smoking. That's better... But I'm not sure how dangerous a propylene glycol based solution could be considering propylene glycol is considered to be safe by the FDA.

Actually, I think that instead of smoking cannabis if that ever becomes legal stateside that consuming the two chemical components of cannabis (THC and CBD) through a(n) e-cig/vape might be safer than smoking it in the form of a joint/cigarette.

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3 minutes ago, MoonSpot said:

Only thing I've seen was either Stanford or Harvard looking at a sample of some 60 odd varieties.  And most of the "bad" one listed in it are no longer available in my area.

I have not seen any particularly damning or glowing studies though and if you got links I'd like to check them out too.

It was a long time ago when I saw those articles, I think you can find some youtube videos that link to the articles I've read in the past about the safety concerns of E-cigs.

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11 minutes ago, Arty said:

Hollow points are illegal, at least as far as i know. 

IDK i don't use guns, nor do i own one.

Only in NJ and there it is only regulated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow-point_bullet#United_States

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10 minutes ago, Rangaman42 said:

Totally agree. Yes, vaping is a much healthier way to get your nicotine fix than smoking. Obviously. But it's not as healthy as not doing either. If you're an existing smoker, give vaping a try. It will have many benefits. If you don't smoke, don't start. Especially as a kid, nicotine on its own is really bad for you and we don't really know what else vaping does in the long term.

it seems like this is just the new way to market stuff towards kids, oh look its safe it won't kill you (yet) inhaling anything in your lungs other then waht it was made to is bad. and its water vapor they say, so you want to inhale water vapor? water+lungs=dead, who knows it could slowly be depositing water in your lungs but then that might just get absorbed by the body who knows what its doing yet.

 

i feel like vaping is just like when cigs came out, they advertised it as good and what not even when the tobacco companies know it could kill you, history just repeating itself? 

 

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5 minutes ago, wcreek said:

Well if they were smokers before and they say vaping has helped them quit Smoking. That's better... But I'm not sure how dangerous a propylene glycol based solution could be considering propylene glycol is considered to be safe by the FDA.

Actually, I think that instead of smoking cannabis if that ever becomes legal stateside that consuming the two chemical components of cannabis (THC and CBD) through a(n) e-cig/vape might be safer than smoking it in the form of a joint/cigarette.

it is, people vape weed becase it doesn't combust so there is no tar and resin that gets in your lungs and it makes the THC and CBD work stronger, so its safer and better than just smoking weed

 

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3 minutes ago, GreezyJeezy said:

it is, people vape weed becase it doesn't combust so there is no tar and resin that gets in your lungs and it makes the THC and CBD work stronger, so its safer and better than just smoking weed

K then.

 

 

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