Will a i5-4590 bottleneck a GTX 970

[Telebubbies]

Hey guys! I am looking at getting a i5-4590. I will also be getting a MSI GTX 970 4GB. I am planning on overclocking the graphics card to the max. By any chance will the CPU bottleneck the graphics card? 

[Vercii]

No. 

[ANewFace]

Nope that won't bottleneck anything

[Monarch]

It will bottleneck it in in some heavy multi-threaded CPU-bound scenarios. Especially if you OC the GPU, you'll find the bottleneck even bigger. Some of the CPU heavy games are TW3, Crysis 3, The Division, Fallout 4, GTA V. Note that it won't bottleneck it to a point where the game's unplayable, but the i7 would definitely be a better option.

[Telebubbies]

5 minutes ago, ANewFace said:

Nope that won't bottleneck anything

Are you sure? I will overclock the Graphics card by like 1279 MHz clock core and 1140 MHz memory

[Telebubbies]

1 minute ago, Monarch said:

It will bottleneck it in in some heavy multi-threaded CPU-bound scenarios. Especially if you OC the GPU, you'll find the bottleneck even bigger. Some of the CPU heavy games are TW3, Crysis 3, The Division, Fallout 4, GTA V. Note that it won't bottleneck it to a point where the game's unplayable, but the i7 would definitely be a better option.

Do you know any i7 that is roughly in that price range? I can go about $30 or $40 higher. I don't need a unlocked version. 

[Telebubbies]

4 minutes ago, Monarch said:

It will bottleneck it in in some heavy multi-threaded CPU-bound scenarios. Especially if you OC the GPU, you'll find the bottleneck even bigger. Some of the CPU heavy games are TW3, Crysis 3, The Division, Fallout 4, GTA V. Note that it won't bottleneck it to a point where the game's unplayable, but the i7 would definitely be a better option.

What about a i5-6600? It is 0.1GHz more.. 

[ANewFace]

4 minutes ago, Telebubbies said:

Are you sure? I will overclock the Graphics card by like 1279 MHz clock core and 1140 MHz memory

Yep, it wont bottleneck an SLI config either

[ZetZet]

1 minute ago, Telebubbies said:

What about a i5-6600? It is 0.1GHz more.. 

4590 is perfectly fine. 

[Monarch]

7 minutes ago, Telebubbies said:

Do you know any i7 that is roughly in that price range? I can go about $30 or $40 higher. I don't need a unlocked version. 

Well I can't help you there, it depends on your location.

 

5 minutes ago, Telebubbies said:

What about a i5-6600? 

If you can't afford something like a 4770/4790 or better then yes, get the best i5 you can, the 6600 or even better 6600k.

[Telebubbies]

1 minute ago, ANewFace said:

Yep, it wont bottleneck an SLI config either

What if it overclocked? Monarch says that it will bottleneck overclocked graphics card playing games like GTA V. But now if it can handle 2 graphics cards, then how come it will not bottleneck 2 graphics cards and it will bottleneck 1 graphics card if it is overclocked? 

[Suika]

The easy answer is that for all intents and purposes, no. The i5 would be a great match for the 970 and handle all games very well.

[Monarch]

20 minutes ago, Vercii said:

No. 

 

18 minutes ago, ANewFace said:

Nope that won't bottleneck anything

 

8 minutes ago, ANewFace said:

Yep, it wont bottleneck an SLI config either

 

8 minutes ago, ZetZet said:

4590 is perfectly fine. 

 

Just now, Suika said:

The easy answer is that for all intents and purposes, no. The i5 would be a great match for the 970 and handle all games very well.

 

You people are still living in the past. Games are getting more and more CPU intensive. Games like GTA V, The Division, Crysis 3, Fallout 4 can and will utilize more than 4 cores easily. So if you only have 4 you'll get a bottleneck.

 

Here's an example:

 

1920x1080, Ultra Settings, Titan X GPU	Low/Avg FPS
Core i3 4130 [?] (3.4GHz, two cores, four threads)	25.0 / 48.1
Core i5 4690K [?] (Max 3.9GHz, four cores, four threads)	30.0 / 64.5
Core i7 4790K [?] (Max 4.4GHz, four cores, eight threads)	51.0 / 80.7
FX-6300 [?] (Max 4.1GHz, six cores, six threads)	23.0 / 48.4
FX-8350 [?] (Max 4.2GHz, eight cores, eight threads)	30.0 / 55.5

Notice the huge difference in both average and minimum fps.

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-the-best-pc-hardware-for-fallout-4-4023

[Apache Protocol]

Yes i would agree with this it will be a good pair. but if you could spend like $30-40 more i would like you to search and read about Intel Xeon E3 1231-V3 its like Intel Core i7-4770 without the iGPU.

 

But still need to look around

[Telebubbies]

3 minutes ago, Monarch said:

 

 

 

 

 

You people are still living in the past. Games are getting more and more CPU intensive. Games like GTA V, The Division, Crysis 3, Fallout 4 can and will utilize more than 4 cores easily. So if you only have 4 you'll get a bottleneck.

 

Here's an example:

 

1920x1080, Ultra Settings, Titan X GPU	Low/Avg FPS
Core i3 4130 [?] (3.4GHz, two cores, four threads)	25.0 / 48.1
Core i5 4690K [?] (Max 3.9GHz, four cores, four threads)	30.0 / 64.5
Core i7 4790K [?] (Max 4.4GHz, four cores, eight threads)	51.0 / 80.7
FX-6300 [?] (Max 4.1GHz, six cores, six threads)	23.0 / 48.4
FX-8350 [?] (Max 4.2GHz, eight cores, eight threads)	30.0 / 55.5

Notice the huge difference in both average and minimum fps.

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-the-best-pc-hardware-for-fallout-4-4023

That is a GTX titan X.. I am talking about a MSI GTX 970 4GB.. A titan X is like double that power. http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-Titan-X-vs-Nvidia-GTX-970/3282vs2577

All I want is to reach 60FPS on high settings. 

[ZetZet]

7 minutes ago, Monarch said:

 

 

 

 

 

You people are still living in the past. Games are getting more and more CPU intensive. Games like GTA V, The Division, Crysis 3, Fallout 4 can and will utilize more than 4 cores easily. So if you only have 4 you'll get a bottleneck.

you do realize that's with titan x. literally double 970.

[Telebubbies]

1 minute ago, ZetZet said:

you do realize that's with titan x. literally double 970.

Damn.. I was going to get the i5-6600.. But it won't fit in the socket I have! ;(

 

[Monarch]

11 minutes ago, Telebubbies said:

That is a GTX titan X.. I am talking about a MSI GTX 970 4GB.. A titan X is like double that power. http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-Titan-X-vs-Nvidia-GTX-970/3282vs2577

All I want is to reach 60FPS on high settings. 

They used the Titan X to make sure their whole benchmark run is a CPU-bound scenario. But you can see that with an i5 they dropped to 30 fps. The 970 is powerful enough to not drop to 30 fps, so it's obvious the CPU is the reason for why it happened. You said you can't afford an i7, so just get the best possible i5 which is the 6600k and you'll be fine.

[ZetZet]

1 minute ago, Telebubbies said:

Damn.. I was going to get the i5-6600.. But it won't fit in the socket I have! ;(

 

it's either 4590 or xeon 1231v3 if you already have a board

[Suika]

3 minutes ago, Monarch said:

You people are still living in the past. Games are getting more and more CPU intensive. Games like GTA V, The Division, Crysis 3, Fallout 4 can and will utilize more than 4 cores easily. So if you only have 4 you'll get a bottleneck.

 

Here's an example:

 

1920x1080, Ultra Settings, Titan X GPU	Low/Avg FPS
Core i3 4130 [?] (3.4GHz, two cores, four threads)	25.0 / 48.1
Core i5 4690K [?] (Max 3.9GHz, four cores, four threads)	30.0 / 64.5
Core i7 4790K [?] (Max 4.4GHz, four cores, eight threads)	51.0 / 80.7
FX-6300 [?] (Max 4.1GHz, six cores, six threads)	23.0 / 48.4
FX-8350 [?] (Max 4.2GHz, eight cores, eight threads)	30.0 / 55.5

Notice the huge difference in both average and minimum fps.

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-the-best-pc-hardware-for-fallout-4-4023

OK lol. 

 

http://www.techspot.com/review/1089-fallout-4-benchmarks/page5.html

 

http://www.techspot.com/review/1148-tom-clancys-the-division-benchmarks/page5.html

 

http://www.techspot.com/review/991-gta-5-pc-benchmarks/page6.html

 

Notice the lack of a difference in averages and lows.

[Monarch]

Just now, Suika said:

OK lol. 

 

http://www.techspot.com/review/1089-fallout-4-benchmarks/page5.html

 

http://www.techspot.com/review/1148-tom-clancys-the-division-benchmarks/page5.html

 

http://www.techspot.com/review/991-gta-5-pc-benchmarks/page6.html

 

Notice the lack of a difference in averages and lows.

 

Because techspot always tests CPU performance in GPU-bound scenarios, which is just ridiculous.  

[Telebubbies]

2 minutes ago, Suika said:

OK lol. 

 

http://www.techspot.com/review/1089-fallout-4-benchmarks/page5.html

 

http://www.techspot.com/review/1148-tom-clancys-the-division-benchmarks/page5.html

 

http://www.techspot.com/review/991-gta-5-pc-benchmarks/page6.html

 

Notice the lack of a difference in averages and lows.

What about the i3-4130?

Just a prank 

[Telebubbies]

Wait, so will the i5 4590 bottleneck the MSI GTX 970 4GB Overclocked?

 

THIS IS MY 200TH COMMENT!

 

[Suika]

8 minutes ago, Monarch said:

Because techspot always tests CPU performance in GPU-bound scenarios, which is just ridiculous.  

http://www.gamersnexus.net/game-bench/1911-gta-v-cpu-benchmark-4790k-3570k-9590-more

 

An i7-4790k with HT off had the best scores lmao. A pure quad core is still fine for gaming. Maybe in three years the story will be different but OP doesn't need a $300 CPU for a single 970.

5 minutes ago, Telebubbies said:

Wait, so will the i5 4590 bottleneck the MSI GTX 970 4GB Overclocked?

No. Even if it does, the difference will only be by a few frames, negligible at best.

[SteveGrabowski0]

38 minutes ago, Telebubbies said:

Do you know any i7 that is roughly in that price range? I can go about $30 or $40 higher. I don't need a unlocked version. 

The Xeon E3-1231v3 has the hyperthreading of the i7 at closer to an i5's price, and has slightly better single core performance than the i5-4590 thanks to a 100 MHz higher clockspeed. It's what I run with my GTX 970 and it's outstanding for gaming on. Though I still do run into a cpu bottleneck on Fallout 4, since it's only 3.6 GHz when gaming, so I have to turn down shadow distance and godrays to medium.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31231v3

 

Though I don't want to make it sound like the i5-4590 isn't a really strong gaming cpu, because it is. I do agree with Majestic on HT being worth the extra $50 based on how many games released in 2015 really hit the cpu hard (Fallout 4, Witcher 3, GTA V). And also it's worth it to overbuy a bit since most people are going to keep their cpu for a few yers. I would for example cut the SSD out from the build to step up to an i7-4790k at $315 or so, as that has HT and a 4.2 GHz clock even at stock. But if you don't have the $50-$115 extra to spend without dipping into your gpu fund without low hanging fruit to pick off your budget (eg, not wasting money on SSDs, mechanical keyboards, LED lighting, etc), stick with the i5 and don't downgrade to anything lower than the GTX 970's price range though. Gaming performance takes a huge nosedive below the GTX 970/R9 290/R9 390 level, and while the hyperthreading will make a difference in some AAA games, the gpu will in all AAA games.