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Tech Shopping Around the World - Switzerland

6 hours ago, Markmjb said:

Fun segment :) Definitely keep doing this stuff, its really fun to see.

It's funny that you mentioned mechanical leopards though. If the Mediamarkt in Switzerland has the same products as we have here,which is likely,

It doesn't have those (or maybe 1 by accident) on display. They just have those flashy gaming leopards. Your point still stands for a lot of other stuff though, like gaming mice.

The major issue for keyboard in Switzerland is we use our own version of the German layout. On a small market, it's not really worth it to put something that the average user will not really care for.

 

Mediamarkt has a couple Logitech one (as its a Swiss company, it's good they offer a Swiss layout) and a Corsair one if I recall correctly. But yeah, most of the keyboard available in store or online for gaming are flashy gaming one.

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11 hours ago, Markmjb said:

Fun segment :) Definitely keep doing this stuff, its really fun to see.

It's funny that you mentioned mechanical keyboards though. If the Mediamarkt in Switzerland has the same products as we have here,which is likely,

It doesn't have those (or maybe 1 by accident) on display. They just have those flashy gaming keyboards. Your point still stands for a lot of other stuff though, like gaming mice.

Mediamarkt is great for consumer electronics. A lot of the computer peripherals you can buy there are like one or two years on the market already though, so real enthousiast buy online. If you think the pre-made computers are bad, check the graphic cards they have there next time. You should :P 

he also mentioned "one day shipping".

 

It's quite standard over here to recieve your product within one day...

 

EDIT: I realized he said: the same day as you order it. That is not standard. But it is possible at some stores.

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2 hours ago, Yesat said:

The major issue for keyboard in Switzerland is we use our own version of the German layout. On a small market, it's not really worth it to put something that the average user will not really care for.

 

Mediamarkt has a couple Logitech one (as its a Swiss company, it's good they offer a Swiss layout) and a Corsair one if I recall correctly. But yeah, most of the keyboard available in store or online for gaming are flashy gaming one.

Erhm, why do you have some extension enabled that translates my "keyboard" to "leopard" xD

Although I would love a mechanical leopard, don't get me wrong ...

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So in germany you found Mediamarkt to, also Saturn, they are bothe owened by one firm.

By IT things like customer hardware is available at most stores like tp-link switches or avm fritz router. There are firms like tech shops (online) where you can order your pc (parts) and they build it together for you. Custom gaming builders are available to.

Audio and Video as well as photo equipment I bought at my small local dealer, because some of these shops resell used hardware (photo). Moreover I get a good consultation about it and in the case of problems its easy to go there.

But Professional IT Hardware is a bit involved, because many dealers only want to sell B2B and not B2C. They say in there conditions you have to be a firm or independently, because of law "normal" customers gets a separate warranty from the dealer with a length of 2 years independent of the warranty of the producer (not for all products).

As an an example at refurbished hardware you get 1 year warranty most times, as business you only get 7 to 30 days give back if there is an error.

Good idea for this serie by the way.

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This Mediamarkt is literally meters away from where I work. Too bad I didn't know when you were there, would have loved to meet you LTT Team ;) Next time maybe !

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15 hours ago, nicklmg said:

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At LMG we travel quite a bit, and we notice some very interesting trends around technology in different regions. Here is our recap of tech shopping in Switzerland.

 

 

 

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My tweet? In one of your videos? Thank you! *sits down and dies in peace*

 

Great video and segment, btw.

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Come to Australia and all we have are online shops and msy's (where i live at least). I won't start on the price let them discover for themselves.

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On 22.3.2016 at 6:44 PM, zENjA said:

So in germany you found Mediamarkt to, also Saturn, they are bothe owened by one firm.

By IT things like customer hardware is available at most stores like tp-link switches or avm fritz router. There are firms like tech shops (online) where you can order your pc (parts) and they build it together for you. Custom gaming builders are available to.

Audio and Video as well as photo equipment I bought at my small local dealer, because some of these shops resell used hardware (photo). Moreover I get a good consultation about it and in the case of problems its easy to go there.

But Professional IT Hardware is a bit involved, because many dealers only want to sell B2B and not B2C. They say in there conditions you have to be a firm or independently, because of law "normal" customers gets a separate warranty from the dealer with a length of 2 years independent of the warranty of the producer (not for all products).

As an an example at refurbished hardware you get 1 year warranty most times, as business you only get 7 to 30 days give back if there is an error.

Good idea for this serie by the way.

Mediamarkt-Saturn (wikipedia) can be found in several European and some Asian countries.

LTT chose a difficult market as Switzerland is not member of the European Union and therefore they add import taxes.

 

But overall I think you can find the same distribution of IT shops in most European countries nowadays. I can only report how it is in Germany though.

 

The small IT shops are mostly dead or don´t live from sales anymore but instead from the services they offer. They got killed by Amazon and other big retailers. They can get you anything, but they have to order most of the things first and they won´t be able to get you better prizes than Amazon, as Amazon sometimes has better prizes than the distribution.

For online computer parts there are several big sites, most of them have shops added to their shipping centre like Alternate, Caseking and Mindfactory where you can browse through up to date hardware, but it is useless if you don´t live nearby. Mindfactory for example is located in a remote coastal town, Alternate is located north of Frankfurt am Main, and Caseking has a shop directly in Berlin. All of them offer pre-build systems, at least one of them even offers custom builds with water-cooling. There are several other OEM manufacturers that offer pre-build systems. Some of them sell open-box or returned hardware labeled as B-stock.

There is a refurbished market in germany, too. I know one chain of stores that has refurbished Laptops from a german refurbisher in stock, they come with 12 month of warranty.

Even b2b customers get that 12 month warranty from them.

Otherwise the market for used parts is pretty dry because of the mandatory 12 month warranty in b2c. Best way to get older used parts is ebay.

 

 

 

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Australia!! we have like soooo much tech stuff here, I mean we have umm ... Pax Aus Umm ... 

 

Yeah, so much tech! :(

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On 3/22/2016 at 2:14 PM, aflyinghotpocket said:

That website looked sketchy as F%$#!

 

Its kind-of how I feel about PC Part Picker. I know the website is (relatively) safe, but both of these sites look like they would steal my credit card.  

You know, the good thing about this site is, that you don't buy over this site. You don't even have to sign up, you just go there search your item and choose the cheapest shop. It will then take you to the shop's website. So technically they don't have any special data of yours.

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