Video Card Resurrection - Oven Method

[AxelRantila]

23 minutes ago, nicklmg said:

There is a reason, can't talk about it.

Ok, that's sad because I know it wasn't previously. But if you cannot talk about it then you cannot 

[vanished]

What I'd like to know is why anyone ever thought this wouldn't completely kill the card.  We get all freaked out about temperatures going over 80 or 90 C, but 385 F (196 C) is way hotter than that, and it is supposed to fix the device?  Really, I just want to know the very first person to think "hey, I've got a good idea!"

[TheWoollyMammoth]

1 hour ago, nicklmg said:

There is a reason, can't talk about it.

Omg, I just figured it out. But I can't tell because Nick would go all out Liam Neeson on my ass.

[nicklmg]

Just now, TheWoollyMammoth said:

Omg, I just figured it out. But I can't tell because Nick would go all out Liam Neeson on my ass.

I mean, I can't confirm or deny whatever you say, but I also can't stop you from saying it lol.

[TheWoollyMammoth]

Just now, nicklmg said:

I mean, I can't confirm or deny whatever you say, but I also can't stop you from saying it lol.

Oh, okay. Well, I'm guessing it's because of the german copyrights for the Also Sprach Zarathustra. This was mentioned in a WAN show, but there wasn't a mention about which video, or which composition it was. But it was this.

[-iSynthesis]

Still gonna try it with my old 580. It has no other hope, if it doesn't work it will forever stay a coaster

[Praesi]

I never believed this. Dead is dead.

[AshleyAshes]

Between this video and LazyGameReviews dropping his own baked mobo video the same night I decided to try this on my AMD A75 chipset mobo that died in Sept and holy hell it runs again.  I am thinking  of using it in a server build but I wanna find a way to bench  it's reliability, some sorta looping benchmark that'll simulate days of moderate workloads...

 

For the record the board died 2 months after the warranty gave up, it had been replaced since, it was only still in my apartment because I wanted it to go to proper eWaste recycling instead of just putting it in the trashbin.  But voila, shaked and baked it, and it booted first try.

[Guest]

I'm sick and tired of people calling out Linus.

 

PEOPLE, WATCH HIM FOR ENTERTAINMENT, NOT TUTORIALS.

 

IF YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED, THEY HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT MORE "TELEVISION" STYLE SHOWS.

STOP CALLING BULLSHIT AND JUST ENJOY THE CONTENT, OR LEAVE.

[SayHiToBob]

12 minutes ago, MagnesiumPC said:

I'm sick and tired of people calling out Linus.

 

PEOPLE, WATCH HIM FOR ENTERTAINMENT, NOT TUTORIALS.

 

IF YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED, THEY HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT MORE "TELEVISION" STYLE SHOWS.

STOP CALLING BULLSHIT AND JUST ENJOY THE CONTENT, OR LEAVE.

If you think that the average person watches LTT for entertainment you're obviously wrong, while yes, the Holy Sh!t thing is more 'TV' than educational and the 7 Gamers 1 PC as well and a lot of his videos are but when his channel has "Tech tips" in its name, I'm pretty sure whatever that might be educational, such as the controversial video, are going to be taken seriously by people.

Though I do have to say, not many people will waste an oven for a PC component that more likely costs less than the oven itself. 

[.spider.]

1 hour ago, AshleyAshes said:

 but I wanna find a way to bench  it's reliability, some sorta looping benchmark that'll simulate days of moderate workloads...

Not possible.

Who uses broken parts for a server anyways.

[79wjd]

18 hours ago, legopc said:

He says that because he works on Apple laptops for a living and knows exactly how they work and why they break. And im willing to bet he said that because he sees a lot of laptop come in just after the warranty period, thats why you could think that they were specifically made to fail just after warranty. 

I came to this thread to post the video that was already posted above me, about how reflowing a dead thing is bullshit and will not work. And I completely agree with Louis and this is another case of linus barely doing any research and posting a shitty video, which results in people trying what he did because a lot of people think what he says is the truth and they all end up with something more broken then what they had before.  

You could believe that, or you could also look at it from a different perspective -- the warranty period was standardized at three years as that's the point that's most profitable to the manufacturer and most beneficial to the consumer (I.e. Two years would be too short to entice consumers like three years does and four years would cost the manufacturer too much money). 

15 hours ago, terminal2 said:

Exactly.  As he said, feel free to test it.  If it was the balls, then using heat below their melting point WOULD NOT WORK

 

The issue here isn't that @LinusTech made a video about it.  The two issues are:
1. Someone could take a failing but still working VGA card and kill it trying to repair it.  Even worse if the card was just underclocking itself due to overheating that could be fixed with a reapplication of thermal paste

2. Linus put no disclaimer in the video about that this was temporary if it did work.  So if someone in a disadvantaged country did this and thought their card was fixed, they might not start saving as they otherwise would for a new card, and be pretty boned when it crapped the bed again

You'd have to be pretty stupid to believe that cooking a piece of technology would be a permenant fix. Should it have been mentioned? Probably...but Linus would literally need to release an entire video for every video he releases full of disclaimers and clarifications. 

[terminal2]

3 hours ago, djdwosk97 said:

You could believe that, or you could also look at it from a different perspective -- the warranty period was standardized at three years as that's the point that's most profitable to the manufacturer and most beneficial to the consumer (I.e. Two years would be too short to entice consumers like three years does and four years would cost the manufacturer too much money). 

You'd have to be pretty stupid to believe that cooking a piece of technology would be a permenant fix. Should it have been mentioned? Probably...but Linus would literally need to release an entire video for every video he releases full of disclaimers and clarifications. 

Or pretty ignorant of how technology works, which a lot of linus' youtube audience is...

Or just put an annotation at the front of the video?  A simple edit?

What are you talking about re-releasing all the videos.  And there is nothing wrong with Linus' other videos.  His other videos contain all pertinent info to the topic at hand.

[terminal2]

4 hours ago, MagnesiumPC said:

I'm sick and tired of people calling out Linus.

 

PEOPLE, WATCH HIM FOR ENTERTAINMENT, NOT TUTORIALS.

 

IF YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED, THEY HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT MORE "TELEVISION" STYLE SHOWS.

STOP CALLING BULLSHIT AND JUST ENJOY THE CONTENT, OR LEAVE.

Well you can be sick and tired, IDGAF.

The reason I personally watch linus is SPECIFICALLY because of their integrity when dealing with products.  They dont let sponsor money affect their opinion and their not fanboys.  I can't believe the audacity of one fan "Hurr durr, watch Linus for the same reason I do or fuck off"

So if Linus is no longer taking responsibility for the effect his content has, I no longer have a reason to follow his advice.  Or at the very least, take it with a grain of salt. 

[legopc]

5 hours ago, MagnesiumPC said:

I'm sick and tired of people calling out Linus.

 

PEOPLE, WATCH HIM FOR ENTERTAINMENT, NOT TUTORIALS.

 

IF YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED, THEY HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT MORE "TELEVISION" STYLE SHOWS.

STOP CALLING BULLSHIT AND JUST ENJOY THE CONTENT, OR LEAVE.

Yes, how dare we call him out when he is creating shitty content. HOW DARE WE

[Prysin]

On 29/02/2016 at 5:11 PM, Nexxus said:

I cannot take this clown seriously after he said "they are programmed with a timer when apple care is meant to run out" 

 

I say this as someone who hates apple. 

I get where he is coming from.

 

you sir, obviously do NOT cater directly to customers in REAL life who thinks what YOU did is the cause of their issues.

Do not even pretend you do, because you DONT. If you did, you would never ever make a comment like that.

 

Instead, you do not deal with this bullshit. I do, thus i know why he says what he does (in this case)....

 

When you have to keep your head down, and suck up to someone chewing you out, again and again and again because they THINK you are at fault, and refuse to even consider someone else, especially not the manufacturer to be at fault.

 

More often then not, the manufaturer IS at fault. But they will blame everyone but themselves, because they cannot be arsed to even consider looking into why something that shouldnt have passed QC, did pass QC.... or worse, the thought of upgrading the proceedures of their QC to cover a possible, but not likely issue.

 

I see this all the time as an electrician... people buy devices, which runs on electricity. So as an electrician, i "must" be the one at fault.

 

Iv'e had people yell at me because their laptop charging dock doesnt work. And that using sockets in one room lets it charge, and in the other room not.

Sockets replaced with brand fucking new ones.

same issues persists. I still get the blame.

The tool of an IT guy claims "must be huge voltage difference".... customer buys into that, because she is perhaps the most naive and stupid person you can imagine.

Guess what the voltage was?

THE SAME, to the 3rd decimal.

so i checked the chargers themselves to make sure the DC output was the same.

IT WAS THE SAME. to the third fucking decimal.

But my company still got the blame. Because the IT guy and the dock was obviously not an issue.

5 minutes of google showed that a whole batch of these docks had been recalled due to charging issues.

IT guy talked his way outta it, we still get the blame, despite being able to prove that every inch of the electrical system is to fucking spec and abiding the law.

 

 

case 2

customer wants electrically powered blinds.

install blinds, according to the manual.

the company that sold the blinds set up software.

shit doesnt work

get yelled at.

checks power. There is power.
checks manual control. manual override works.

tell customer there is a software issue and that they must contact the retailer of the system for a possible reprogramming.

 

two weeks passes. same shit, AGAIN.

 

Customer is a millionaire and a lawyer... arguing is pointless. Losing said customer would be really bad for business, especially since the customer has very high profile contacts which could become potential customers in the future.

 

 

i could keep going. But honestly... unless you work in a profession that must deal with private customers, you have no fucking clue how much bullshit you must put up with on a weekly or daily basis.

 

 

[Prysin]

9 hours ago, MagnesiumPC said:

I'm sick and tired of people calling out Linus.

 

PEOPLE, WATCH HIM FOR ENTERTAINMENT, NOT TUTORIALS.

 

IF YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED, THEY HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT MORE "TELEVISION" STYLE SHOWS.

STOP CALLING BULLSHIT AND JUST ENJOY THE CONTENT, OR LEAVE.

so good sir. where do you draw the line between entertainment and tutorials?

 

whilst it is entertaining to watch him flail around and fuck things up. He does provide a step by step instruction, or a bucket list of information allowing you, the audience, to repeat his process if you so wish to.

 

Mythbusters are a Television show. They tested thousands of things, but were WAY more thorough then LTT has ever been. And when Mythbusters DID GET CALLED OUT, THEY DID AN REVISIT OF THEIR PREVIOUS EPISODE AND EXPLORED THE POSSIBLE MISTAKE THEY MADE.

 

To this date. Linus Tech Tips has not ONCE gone back and disproven one of his old videos. He did it once or twice on the NCIX channel. But iv'e yet to find ONE tutorial/"investigation" style video where he has gone back and corrected himself.

He has corrected reviews (probably due to pressure from manufacturer to get it right), but he has so far not revisited his "investigations" like RAM Speed (2+ years old) which has been proven wrong time and time again. Nor did he, or anyone else, even ONCE make a comment or reply in the thread pointing out issues with his recent "workshop" videos. Thus either they do not care, or they simply ignored the feedback.

 

When you are leading a company, with employees, it is your responsibility to be honest to your customers. We are all paying for the food he puts on the table. Without you, me and everyone else, linus wouldnt be here. His fame, fortune and company is BUILT upon his customers, or "viewers".

 

 

[SilicateWielder]

On 2/29/2016 at 0:22 AM, HatsuneMilku said:

I did it myself with a 550 ti, these days they use non toxic solder so I used my normal kitchen oven. There are risks such as plastic and capacitors blowing though.
 

Here's linus's previous video haha.

He's using his kitchen oven.

Good, good. This means I can satisfy my need for chicken nuggets while baking myself a GPU.

[Sauron]

On 2/3/2016 at 11:09 AM, Progressor said:

 

Louis made a video about Linus's video.

I'm split on this one, I agree with Louis that baking is not a proper way to repair shit you want to really fix, and that Linus's video is a kind of misleading.

But I also agree with Linus, if we're walking about hardware that would otherwise go in the garbage, why not bake it? No one will spend hundred or more bucks for a repair shop to fix their 50$ graphic card. The PC that I'm currently using as a main rig has a hd5770 in it, that shit cost 30$ second hand in my country. If it dies I can bet your ass I'm trowing it in the oven and then in the garbage(if the oven doesn't fix it temporary) instead of sending it to repairing shop that would charge me as much as a new better gpu would cost. But if the board on my $350 3D mouse brakes I wouldn't even think about putting it in the oven - it goes straight for a reputable repair shop. So it really depends on the case we're talking here.

Linus did  say this is a last ditch effort "solution", but Louis is right when he says that if he really wanted it to work again he should have tried to have a specialist repair it. On top of that the video is somewhat misleading, because while many of us will understand why this is a generally bad idea, a lot of subs won't.

[HatsuneMilku]

 

6 hours ago, Prysin said:

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Prysin is completely correct in this case, 
In one of linus' latest videos he mentions that he gets review samples and things like that because of his influence on the tech industry. If he acknowledges this he should understand that he'd better get the facts in his videos 100% correct.

And no MagnesiumPC, people don't just watch his videos for entertainment. His channel is about tech tips.

 

 

[iamdarkyoshi]

To everyone arguing about the technique, details can be found in the link in my signature, and the EEVblog thread here (where someone even brought up the LTT video)

[Lily]

too much work

[terminal2]

Thumbs up for a LOUIS AND LINUS COLLABORATION!