Monitor or GPU first?

[nicolavs16]

My PC: i3 4170 and Palit GT630 and Old model generic square type 19inches monitor.

 

I dont know what to buy first if GPU or MONITOR.

 

My budget is 150-200 USD. For monitor

 

And planning to buy GTX750ti on october 2016.

 

Is my decision good?

[paddy-stone]

kind of depends on what you want to do with it I guess?

 

Are you a gamer? if so then maybe the 750ti would be better first.. if you're not a gamer and want better screen space etc then the monitor first maybe

[Lk4583]

What resolution is the old Monitor if it's like 480P you should get the monitor first because you won't be able to see the performance of the 750ti with a 480p monitor Otherwise Graphics first

[littlelegsone]

what resolution monitor?

[SeanAngelo]

22 minutes ago, nicolavs16 said:

My PC: i3 4170 and Palit GT630 and Old model generic square type 19inches monitor.

 

I dont know what to buy first if GPU or MONITOR.

 

My budget is 150-200 USD. For monitor

 

And planning to buy GTX750ti on october 2016.

 

Is my decision good?

whats your resolution on that monitor?

[ryanmmax]

I vote monitor especially if your in the sub $200 price range.  Monitor prices are a lot less volatile then GPUs (unless your talking 144hz/1440p/Ultrawide).  This means your money is better invested in a monitor also you will enjoy the monitor 100% of the time your sitting in front of your computer not just when gaming.

 

BUT if your favoite game isnt running welll maybe get a GPU... Id jut turn the graphics down though... 

[nicolavs16]

14 hours ago, paddy-stone said:

kind of depends on what you want to do with it I guess?

 

Are you a gamer? if so then maybe the 750ti would be better first.. if you're not a gamer and want better screen space etc then the monitor first maybe

 

14 hours ago, Lk4583 said:

What resolution is the old Monitor if it's like 480P you should get the monitor first because you won't be able to see the performance of the 750ti with a 480p monitor Otherwise Graphics first

 

14 hours ago, littlelegsone said:

what resolution monitor?

 

14 hours ago, SeanAngelo said:

whats your resolution on that monitor?

 

11 hours ago, ryanmmax said:

I vote monitor especially if your in the sub $200 price range.  Monitor prices are a lot less volatile then GPUs (unless your talking 144hz/1440p/Ultrawide).  This means your money is better invested in a monitor also you will enjoy the monitor 100% of the time your sitting in front of your computer not just when gaming.

 

BUT if your favoite game isnt running welll maybe get a GPU... Id jut turn the graphics down though... 

 

It my case i only play Dota2 and CS:GO because of my GPU which is Palit GT630.

I really want to play like Battefield 4, The new tomb raider i forgot the title but i dont have a good budget for it.

So im thinking of buying a monitor first, Anyway i dont know what resolution are u talking about guys but i this one? Check it out 

 

 

So should i go for GTX750ti first or Monitor?

[Lk4583]

You're monitor seems fine 1024 is close enough to 1080 last question do you think the monitor is to small or are you just OK with it if you're ok with I change my vote to Gpu if you're fine with the monitor if not just buy a new monitor 

 

Battlefield 4 is fun so ....

[rhyseyness]

2 hours ago, Lk4583 said:

You're monitor seems fine 1024 is close enough to 1080 last question do you think the monitor is to small or are you just OK with it if you're ok with I change my vote to Gpu if you're fine with the monitor if not just buy a new monitor 

 

Battlefield 4 is fun so ....

Don't forget 1280x1024 is 4:3 aspect ratio, not 16:9.

It's waaaaaaaaaay less pixels than 1920x1080 (1080p).

1.3 Megapixels vs. 2.1 Megapixels.

So "1024 is close to 1080" isn't really meaningful at all.

 

I'd recommend OP goes with a monitor upgrade before a GPU upgrade.

That monitor is old, and you'll likely lose any benefit of the GPU upgrade because of how old the monitor is.

 

However, your 630 is going to struggle at 1080p, so, it also depends how long until you can afford to upgrade the GPU.

If it's going to be another year to save for a GPU, I'd recommend you save until then and buy the new monitor and GPU at the same time.

If it's another 2 months until you can afford the GPU, monitor now, GPU in 2 months.

Hope this helps

[nicolavs16]

1 hour ago, rhyseyness said:

Don't forget 1280x1024 is 4:3 aspect ratio, not 16:9.

It's waaaaaaaaaay less pixels than 1920x1080 (1080p).

1.3 Megapixels vs. 2.1 Megapixels.

So "1024 is close to 1080" isn't really meaningful at all.

 

I'd recommend OP goes with a monitor upgrade before a GPU upgrade.

That monitor is old, and you'll likely lose any benefit of the GPU upgrade because of how old the monitor is.

 

However, your 630 is going to struggle at 1080p, so, it also depends how long until you can afford to upgrade the GPU.

If it's going to be another year to save for a GPU, I'd recommend you save until then and buy the new monitor and GPU at the same time.

If it's another 2 months until you can afford the GPU, monitor now, GPU in 2 months.

Hope this helps

Well said mate, I think ill get the GPU in the next 3-4 months.

 

Yes i really hate this monitor because its aspect ratio is 4:3 and when playing Dota2 and CS:GO using this aspect ratio. I see big character and the map or what i see is lessen compared to 16:9. The problem on 16:9 ratio is like having a small wide screen monitor. LOL

 

Anyway what is the maximum resolution of my palit gt630?

 

Im going to pc store tomorrow to canvass what are the monitors available in my budget. And ill try to post the models here in linus to see any comments about it.

[Thony]

Get a monitor ! U can get 22-24" 1080p TN or IPS for around 100$ so save the remaining money towards GPU. I guess u could get one in summer (part-time job, work around a house for family/friends).

 

Bigger screen and better aspect ration (16:9 is just better overall) will improve your experience while watching movies, videos and using your computer because u get bigger workspace on your desktop. Then when u get new GPU u can fully enjoy 1080p in games too. (For CSGO u might prefer smaller resolution because thats what u used to but for AAA titles u don't want 4:3)

 

If u buy the GPU u will see massive fps improvement and u don't really need that for CS:GO as that game looks just fine on low settings anyway. 

 

BF4 is kinda eyecandy game imo and u want to experience that on nice 1080p screen

[nicolavs16]

53 minutes ago, Thony said:

Get a monitor ! U can get 22-24" 1080p TN or IPS for around 100$ so save the remaining money towards GPU. I guess u could get one in summer (part-time job, work around a house for family/friends).

 

Bigger screen and better aspect ration (16:9 is just better overall) will improve your experience while watching movies, videos and using your computer because u get bigger workspace on your desktop. Then when u get new GPU u can fully enjoy 1080p in games too. (For CSGO u might prefer smaller resolution because thats what u used to but for AAA titles u don't want 4:3)

 

If u buy the GPU u will see massive fps improvement and u don't really need that for CS:GO as that game looks just fine on low settings anyway. 

 

BF4 is kinda eyecandy game imo and u want to experience that on nice 1080p screen

Thanks for your comment bro, Anyway what is the difference of  TN and IPS?

 

What are other types of monitor?

1. TN

2. IPS

3. ?

4. ? 

 

Please tell me or link me for a guide. Thanks alot! 

[rhyseyness]

1 hour ago, nicolavs16 said:

Well said mate, I think ill get the GPU in the next 3-4 months.

 

Yes i really hate this monitor because its aspect ratio is 4:3 and when playing Dota2 and CS:GO using this aspect ratio. I see big character and the map or what i see is lessen compared to 16:9. The problem on 16:9 ratio is like having a small wide screen monitor. LOL

 

Anyway what is the maximum resolution of my palit gt630?

 

Im going to pc store tomorrow to canvass what are the monitors available in my budget. And ill try to post the models here in linus to see any comments about it.

21 minutes ago, nicolavs16 said:

Thanks for your comment bro, Anyway what is the difference of  TN and IPS?

 

What are other types of monitor?

1. TN

2. IPS

3. ?

4. ? 

 

Please tell me or link me for a guide. Thanks alot! 

So TN is less expensive, but will have worse colour reproduction and worse viewing angles.

IPS will have great viewing angles and better colour reproduction.

It used to be the case that TN panels were faster too, but that's less true now.

That said, a 144Hz IPS monitor will be significantly (like up to 3x) the price of a 144Hz TN monitor.

So you have to decide whether you care more about a higher refresh rate (good for FPS games), or a better looking image (good for photos/movies/RPGs).

In your position, any modern TN panel is going to look loads better than your current monitor, and if you go TN, you can probably afford a higher refresh rate monitor too.

Personally, I have an IPS monitor (bought just last week) and I love it. Everything is beautiful.

However, I don't care all that much for refresh rates above 60Hz, because I've never had a monitor with a higher refresh rate than that (don't miss what you've never had).

I care more about my games looking pretty than running at 100+FPS.

That's the decision you'll have to make, but by the sounds of it, you're on a budget, and play a lot of FPS, so would benefit more from a fast TN panel rather than a pretty IPS one.

 

As for the "maximum resolution" of your GT630, it will work at 1920x1080, but the frame rate COULD be below a playable level (<30FPS).

Look at benchmarks for that card on the games you play. Should be easy enough to google.

For X% more pixels, you're probably looking at approximately X% lower frame rate. They're pretty closely related.

As a rough estimate, I'd say if you're pushing 100FPS in CS:GO now, you'd probably see more like 60FPS on a 1080p monitor.

 

I hope this helps, sorry if any of it wasn't very clear.

I'm at work and tired, lol.

[Thony]

1 hour ago, nicolavs16 said:

Thanks for your comment bro, Anyway what is the difference of  TN and IPS?

 

What are other types of monitor?

1. TN

2. IPS

3. ?

4. ? 

 

Please tell me or link me for a guide. Thanks alot! 

Well there is PLS and AVMA but they aren't that common. 

 

For gaming you don't need to know much. The main difference is colour reproduction (accuracy) of IPS is higher than TN's. So u get richer colours with IPS. But IPS panels commonly have 60Hz refresh rate (TN 75Hz). 

 

There is very small price difference between 1080p IPS and TN. 

 

IPS has higher response time of 5ms or higher whereas TN can be at 1ms. Response time doesn't matter for casual gamer (under 6ms is fine). Its only useful for pro players to get on the top of their game.

 

U can Google and read for more details if u want. Or go watch a YouTube video. I don't have any specific article/video in mind.

 

PS. I just noticed u plan GPU upgrade for October. By then Pascal line of GPUs will be out and maybe u can get GTX 1050 or 950, both will provide better performance for same or lower price. 

[olbaze]

If you go GPU first:

• You'll get to enjoy higher frame rates while you save up for your monitor.
• You can crank the settings higher due to lower resolution being easier to drive.
• In some games, you might even be able to use DSR while maintaining high frame rates.

If you go monitor first:

• You'll most likely have to lower the resolution or tolerate very low frame rates.
• You might not be able to reap the benefits of G-sync/Freesync.
• You get to enjoy better picture quality.

Basically, if your primary usage is gaming, get the GPU first. If you spend most of your time doing other things, then consider getting the monitor first. A good monitor requires a good GPU to really shine.

[bigneo]

Judging by the situation and other people comments, personally, I would go with monitor. As somebody have mentioned above, monitor would be 100% utilized while GPU would only benefit you in games for the time being. You have to ask yourself do you need better FPS than what you currently have? If not then it's another reason to get monitor first. If you are struggling with FPS at the moment and you really don't mind this small monitor then GPU would be better choice.

 

BUT How in the hell can you look at 4:3 ratio ??? To me it's like an eye cancer.

 

I don't play games you do, but I most certainly would go for 24'' IPS monitor even if it means to lower settings in games. The monitor upgrade would keep reminding you to upgrade your GPU faster and by the time you will upgrade GPU you will do research about GPUs of which one would drive your monitor best.

[nicolavs16]

What do you think is the best 23inches for me?

 

http://pcworx.ph/home/catalog/products/Monitor/Twenty%20Three%20Inches

 

Check the link above.

[nicolavs16]

What is better for gaming? LED OR LCD?

[Fullmetal1212]

My Friend Has a 960. Thing is beast, Had my 3440x1440 monitor on it and it was holding 60 Fps in warframe. I would recommend that as a card for 1080p on a budget.

I would go for the Graphics Card First, because having a great monitor is nice, but useless if you cant drive it. However Depending on how much productivity you want the Monitor could take Priority as Your running a Pretty small workspace.

Led and LCD are the same in 90% of monitors,

Led is lit by led's
LCD is lit by CCFL (Fluorescent) 

Both use the same type of panel. 

TN is "best" for Gaming as it is the quickest Switching. 
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