4 Polaris GPUs spotted on Zauba-probably consist of the r7 lineup

[DocSwag]

Source: http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-r9-400-gpus/

 

So it seems Polaris low end has been spotted

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Entries two through four consist of Weston XT, Weston PRO and Banks PRO. What really matters, are the board numbers: C72951 for Weston and C72851 for Banks, which place these new GPUs at the entry level. Although the boards have not been seen before, it is possible that these are actually more efficient revisions of older GPUs. Both GPUs are listed with 2GB of GDDR5 memory with a data rate of 4.5 GBPS. As far as the external nomenclature goes, these  could form the initial lineup of Radeon R9 4xx GPUs all the way up to Radeon R9 460X.

Read more: http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-r9-400-gpus/#ixzz40crTCRny

These all have old code names so it is certain to be the 400 series.

All but one are worth about 150 usd. They all seem to contain 2 gb gddr5 ram.

Oddly though the last is listed around 600 usd. As well, the others say that they contain GDDR5 while this one doesn't. Strange. HBM or GDDR5X?

However it is only 4gb, that doesn't seem right for a 600 usd card?

Then again these aren't official. We've seen weird prices on early version before.

It could be the 232 mm^2 card we've been seeing lately. However, it'd be strange if it really was 600 usd. I would place its value (if it had HBM) at something more like 300-400 USD.

This is interesting, seems to match with AMDs recent teasers. Perhaps they might even launch Polaris at the GDC conference.

[RagnarokDel]

20 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Source: http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-r9-400-gpus/

 

So it seems Polaris low end has been spotted

These all have old code names so it is certain to be the 400 series.

All but one are worth about 150 usd.

Oddly though the last is listed around 600 usd.

then again these aren't official

This is interesting, seems to match with AMDs recent teasers. Perhaps they might even launch Polaris at the GDC conference.

Yeah. I'll be interesting to see what an entry gaming card can do compared to the previous generations. I'm assuming those are all the small dies one.

[DocSwag]

36 minutes ago, RagnarokDel said:

Yeah. I'll be interesting to see what an entry gaming card can do compared to the previous generations. I'm assuming those are all the small dies one.

Yeah I think so.

[DarkBlade2117]

Doesn't seem like AMDs motto of throwing more VRAM at a card.

[Misanthrope]

So all new low end gpus, no rebrands?

 

[MEC-777]

They need to replace the low-end cards at some point, and it's good to see hints that they're working away on the new line up. Highly doubt they will launch any new GPUs at GDC except for Fury X2. They desperately need to kick that sucker out the door long before Polaris. 

[Bob Jim]

36 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

So all new low end gpus, no rebrands?

 

Every single time AMD has had a process node shrink every card in the next generation has been new. Every. Single. Time. What is so hard to accept about that?

[LukeTim]

1 minute ago, huilun02 said:

If they are making an all new lineup of chips, why not sell the 390/Fury as entry level and straight up retrench all of Nvidia's employees?

Because they'd be making an enormous loss on each one...?

[don_svetlio]

57 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

So all new low end gpus, no rebrands?

 

What is there so hard to believe? AMD have never rebranded with a Process shrink, hell, Nvidia is the one who has done that in all honesty

[NateGSR117]

Well, I would love to see some Polaris cards at GDC

[Watermelon Guy]

5 minutes ago, NateGSR117 said:

Well, I would love to see some Polaris cards at GDC

We probably will, and we will probably have low end polaris chips before may. 

[Watermelon Guy]

1 hour ago, Bob Jim said:

Every single time AMD has had a process node shrink every card in the next generation has been new. Every. Single. Time. What is so hard to accept about that?

Actually, your wrong. There were rebrands in the 7000 series... 7350, 7450, 7470, 7510, 7570, 7670.  

[Doobeedoo]

I'm sure their high end cards will have 8GB VRAM and we'll probably see new line with new node.

[WereCat]

38 minutes ago, Watermelon Guy said:

Actually, your wrong. There were rebrands in the 7000 series... 7350, 7450, 7470, 7510, 7570, 7670.  

Okay but no one cares about these cards honestly so it doesent matter if it is rebrand or not. NVIDIA does the same with the trash end.

[Watermelon Guy]

3 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Okay but no one cares about these cards honestly so it doesent matter if it is rebrand or not. NVIDIA does the same with the trash end.

But amd were doing ok back in 2011, 2012. Now they are not, they really cant afford to just be using a gpu design once. fiji is going to get a rebrand, it has too. There are going to be rebrands, probably Tonga will get a rebrand variant. Of course they will be on 14nm, but rebrands non the less. 

[ivan134]

42 minutes ago, Watermelon Guy said:

But amd were doing ok back in 2011, 2012. Now they are not, they really cant afford to just be using a gpu design once. fiji is going to get a rebrand, it has too. There are going to be rebrands, probably Tonga will get a rebrand variant. Of course they will be on 14nm, but rebrands non the less. 

Neither Nvidia nor AMD is going to release a new "gaming geared" card that isnt fully dx 12_0 and dx 12_1 compliant. AMD has even said themsleves that every card will be using the Polaris architecture so can all of you who keep talking about rebrands stop?

[DocSwag]

AMD Can't AFFORD to have rebrands. They are losing market share to Nvidia and are already at around only 1/5th of GPU market share. Having rebrands in the 400 series would only hurt them even more. Instead, they could have low end GPUs that are ULTRA power efficient, which would be a lot more attractive then low end GPUs that are basically last gen GPUs and use about twice or even 3-4 times more power than they would if they were Polaris GPUs.

[Memories4K]

I'll tell you one thing fam.

That $600 unmarked GPU is looking damn well like Polaris 10/11.

If that's the case i'm excited and AMD will probably release closer to Q2 than Q3.

Which is perfect for me, but hoping that the 4GB is a misprint or something.

8GB is now my low-point since AMD raised the bar for themselves.

[Trixanity]

Keep in mind that these so called price tags are not retail prices. They're often much higher than actual retail price. Also keep in mind we've seen more "expensive" cards in other shipping manifests. 

 

This doesn't say much other than revealing the existence of certain chips with corresponding names and potential memory configurations. 

[Bob Jim]

22 hours ago, Watermelon Guy said:

Actually, your wrong. There were rebrands in the 7000 series... 7350, 7450, 7470, 7510, 7570, 7670.  

OEM cards that you could not even buy as a separate component. I was referring to GPUs that people can buy, and hence actually care about.

[spartaman64]

On 2/19/2016 at 10:58 AM, Bob Jim said:

Every single time AMD has had a process node shrink every card in the next generation has been new. Every. Single. Time. What is so hard to accept about that?

yea it makes sense the node shrink also makes the cards use less material and probably cost less to produce

[Watermelon Guy]

5 hours ago, Bob Jim said:

OEM cards that you could not even buy as a separate component. I was referring to GPUs that people can buy, and hence actually care about.

But back then amd was doing well. Now there not. They cant afford to design A complete new gpu lineup. 

[Trixanity]

2 hours ago, Watermelon Guy said:

But back then amd was doing well. Now there not. They cant afford to design A complete new gpu lineup. 

They can't afford not to either.

So they're doing just that.

[Watermelon Guy]

1 minute ago, Trixanity said:

They can't afford not to either.

So they're doing just that.

Rumours mean nothing. As far as Im concerned, there are going to be re-brands. but good rebrands, All I think they will do is refresh fiji, on 14nm with HBM 2/1

[Trixanity]

1 minute ago, Watermelon Guy said:

Rumours mean nothing. As far as Im concerned, there are going to be re-brands. but good rebrands, All I think they will do is refresh fiji, on 14nm with HBM 2/1

Ah, that pesky rumor-spreading Lisa Su. She should stop spreading falsehoods and continue that darn CEO'ing or whatever it is she does at AMD.

 

It's not a freebie to do a die-shrink. It costs money. 

 

Any rebrands will be at the bottom of the stack, if at all. The performance and energy improvements are too big to ignore. They have an entire mobile market they need to re-capture and they need to cater to the gaming/high performance desktop GPU market at the same time. All these require new chips. It's pretty much only at the bottom of the desktop market that they can afford not to give any fucks and neither Fiji or Tonga fit that market and at the same time they're too expensive. Fiji will be veritable cripple if rebranded and mashed into any market with Polaris and Pascal GPUs all around.

 

But let's just assume for a second that they do decide to throw cash around to shrink Fiji and cram it into the market as a what? 480? 470?

It'll be crushed by whatever Pascal chip that sits in the same price bracket. It would make the entire thing moot.

 

So they've taken a very expensive chip (previous gen flagship) and spend more money on getting it shrunk and will have to sell it at something like <$350 and will have trouble competing. Bad business.

It's not that Fiji's bad. It's a good chip but it won't compete in the market to come. Increased focus on energy efficiency. Tesselation is still a thing. Compute will be more demanding. So many things that Polaris will be tackling that previous chips can't handle, especially in a competitive market and not only that: also a market where AMD is fighting an uphill battle. It would be a disaster to show up with a product like Fiji in the 480 or 490 slot (still uncertain what will happen to the Fury branding going forward). It's where the most gamers will put their money. AMD basically needs to be neck and neck (or beat) with GTX 1070 especially but also 1060, 1080 and an eventual 1080 Ti.