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I think I've gotten two of the worst 970s for overclocking

1 minute ago, CarterDavison said:

I updated my post

What I said still applies-you really don't seem to understand the ASIC score, and in fact binning, that well.

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2 minutes ago, AllWheelsDrifting said:

I feel like a complete noob but, whats binning?

Sorting out CPU/GPU/RAM to run at a certain frequency at a certain voltage. The better the binning, the less voltage needed for X frequency (and timings with RAM).

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37 minutes ago, AllWheelsDrifting said:

I feel like a complete noob but, whats binning?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_binning

 

infact they both are right and wrong. this discussion can go forever...

 

The point is there is no "best overclocking card" weither its binned or not. Also ASIC score can matter with maxwell if it comes to the Temperatures and Power limitations. With the GTX970 however the cooler/cooling method and RAM manufacturer is more important then the ASIC score. Ive build in 3 GTX 970 G1 from Gigabyte in different systems, and RMA'd one with coilwhine with asics ranges from 57% to 80% all of them have made the 1600mhz clock oC without adding to much voltage. But only that two Samsung RAM cards could get its ram above 7600mhz. Also in my experience with this card it can make a difference if you OC the RAM first, pushing it to hard can cause instability on mid-high core overclocks. (probably due to RAM overheat).

 

And yea obviously having the RAM on the backside of the card is a negative, but it isnt fatal. If you really want to get this shit hard overclocked you have to atleast watercool anyway. The EKWB backplate has a decent inbuild solution to this problem.

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22 hours ago, King Oriax said:

So I just got a 1440p monitor and finally had a reason to overclock my gpus, but sadly found out that one of them can handle +90mhz and the other can handle only +75 before I have artifacts and blue screens. I'm pretty sure that binned gpu's tend to overclock well but I guess I just have shitty luck. Anyone else have issues with gigabytes g1 gaming line?

Test the OC with single GPU setups. If you can get much higher with single cards. Then its your cooling solution that fails.

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6 hours ago, Dabombinable said:

The GPU consumes a lot more power. If they were aimed at over clockers there would be 8+8pin with GM200 cards.

Your graphics card still isn't aimed at overclocking at all-its a reference GTX 980 made by Asus. I can overclock the ATI MR HD5650 in my laptop by 60MHz, doesn't mean that its aimed at overclockers.

Sorry 8 plus 8 is what I meant 

it is for overclocking no offece but there custom pcb, 8 +8 for the power and one of the best custom coolers and Samsung memory so say as u please 

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6 minutes ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

Sorry 8 plus 8 is what I meant 

it is for overclocking no offece but there custom pcb, 8 +8 for the power and one of the best custom coolers and Samsung memory so say as u please 

Your hitting a power wall, well before the limits of even the 980ti with the worst ASIC score.

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17 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

Your hitting a power wall, well before the limits of even the 980ti with the worst ASIC score.

80percent is not a bad ASIC score 

ally's I was saying that with maxwell is u run into other problems before ASIC quality becomes an issue 

my arms are made of overclocking and they both hit high cl

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5 hours ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

80percent is not a bad ASIC score 

ally's I was saying that with maxwell is u run into other problems before ASIC quality becomes an issue 

my arms are made of overclocking and they both hit high cl

You only run into problems before the ASIC quality becomes an issue due to whether or not the graphics card vendor is using a non reference PCB.

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6 hours ago, Dabombinable said:

You only run into problems before the ASIC quality becomes an issue due to whether or not the graphics card vendor is using a non reference PCB.

There on a custom pcb so ...

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5 hours ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

There on a custom pcb so ...

Your overclock is quite low, and your still limited by the power before the ASIC score has a greater effect, which you don't get with graphics cards such as the GTX 970 G1 Gaming and Windoforce. Also, the higher the ASIC score the higher the overclock you can manage within your cards power limits.

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11 hours ago, Dabombinable said:
9 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

Your overclock is quite low, and your still limited by the power before the ASIC score has a greater effect, which you don't get with graphics cards such as the GTX 970 G1 Gaming and Windoforce. Also, the higher the ASIC score the higher the overclock you can manage within your cards power limits.

Its not a low oc Iv seen kingpins that won't break 1550 and lightings at 1440

u can't compare my cards to ur knolege on the 970 because gym 204 is a lot different to gm 200

1650 + is a good Oc for 204 chips 

and 1450 + is good oc for gm 200 chips

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3 minutes ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

 

The ASIC score still dictates whether or not you can get X clock speed at X voltage.

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ASIC quality only really comes In when your fully water cooling your cards and adding rediculas voltage to oc 

or running them on ln2

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See post above 

if u open gpuz in the perf cap it will never say ASIC lol

asic has very little impact unless your under water or ln2 with stupid voltage 

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3 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

The ASIC score still dictates whether or not you can get X clock speed at X voltage.

 

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12 minutes ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

See post above 

if u open gpuz in the perf cap it will never say ASIC lol

asic has very little impact unless your under water or ln2 with stupid voltage 

Because its an actual way to measure who good your GPU is in terms of the silicon lottery. It contributes to the performance cap, it isn't one on its own.

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3 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

Because its an actual way to measure who good your GPU is in terms of the silicon lottery. It contributes to the performance cap, it isn't one on its own.

Il agree with that but it really doesn't make that much of a difference tho until ur on water or ln2

 

otherwise ur cards would be slowed down in Sli to the lower ASIC card 

u can say what u want about power but unless u have a custom bios ur still stuck with + 87 mv and 109 power limit 

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1 minute ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

Il agree with that but it really doesn't make that much of a difference tho until ur on water or ln2

 

otherwise ur cards would be slowed down in Sli to the lower ASIC card 

u can say what u want about power but unless u have a custom bios ur still stuck with + 87 mv and 109 power limit 

112% power limit, with only 89% reached with +87mv and a 150MHz OC. Again, ASIC score determines the clock speed at a certain voltage. I've got a GTX 970 G1 Gaming remember? With a higher ASIC score I'd be able to get a higher overclock on stock voltage than what I get at the moment.

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5 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

112% power limit, with only 89% reached with +87mv and a 150MHz OC. Again, ASIC score determines the clock speed at a certain voltage. I've got a GTX 970 G1 Gaming remember? With a higher ASIC score I'd be able to get a higher overclock on stock voltage than what I get at the moment.

What's ur perf cap and yes to the extent or maby 30 MHz ASIC really don't mean shit 

there are so many other factors 

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9 minutes ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

What's ur perf cap and yes to the extent or maby 30 MHz ASIC really don't mean shit 

there are so many other factors 

My GTX 970's perf cap is normally vRel. And again, higher ASIC score=lower temps+voltage at stock.

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^that BTW is always a good thing for all cards.

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11 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

^that BTW is always a good thing for all cards.

U still may have to add a ton of voltage to hit higher hz 

30hz probly isn't even 1 fps in most games by the way

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Better to have two poorly OC cards than one good and one bad.

 

Took the hit for someone else, don't worry - you'll get yours next time :D 

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