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Aww man i did not know how close Phenom was to first gen Core i series.

At nearly five years of age the AMD Phenom II X4 965 has been included in the CPU group test primarily as a reference. This hugely successful CPU from AMD has been one of the most popular gaming PC's of all time. With superb Single threaded, and therefore real-world performance, the X4 was able to compete with Intel's first generation of Core chips in terms of raw processing power and it did so at a lower price point. Today of course the X4 processor has been far surpassed by Intel's third and fourth generation Core processors. [Feb '12 CPUPro]

 

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core2-Quad-Q9550-vs-AMD-Phenom-II-X4-965/m334vs606

 

 

Seems they were actually damn beastly vs Core i series.

 

Wish we could have that kind of thing right now.

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Phenom II X6 compared to Sandy so yes. Phenom II was quite good

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If only AMD would've stuck with those architecture styles and just revised them.

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They were within 5-10% of the 45nm Intel designs but cheaper obviously. That's how AMD should be IMO. Now they're like 60% slower per core and the same price for the multithreaded performance.

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Phenom II X6 compared to Sandy so yes. Phenom II was quite good

 

If only AMD would've stuck with those architecture styles and just revised them.

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Actually, they are further apart than you'd think. A first gen Core i series CPU has a lower IPC than a Phenom II (based on comparisons between a Phenom II N970 and i5 540M in different models of the same laptop-HP Pavilion DV6 3010AX with N970 upgrade and the i5 540M version with the 640GB HDD), and the difference was far greater than the 300MHz clock speed alone.

 

Edit: Check the cinebench thread under "Dabobminable" and the corrected "Dabombinable" for further proof

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They were within 5-10% of the 45nm Intel designs but cheaper obviously. That's how AMD should be IMO. Now they're like 60% slower per core and the same price for the multithreaded performance.

 

And that's hopefully how will Zen turn out. Intel is leaving a big weakpoint in its line up under 170 dollars, there are no quadcore to be seen and between the i3 and the i5 nothing exists. AMD could make use of that.

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Well my old Phenom II performed great for a very long time.

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