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2016 presidential election

The least I want is trump, but isn't he out of the election though?

 

Bernie sanders seems sketchy but he brings out racial issues and all sort of other issues in our society but the extreme taxing of the rich is a little bit overboard

 

Not sure about Hillary but she seems like the less sketchier candidate out of all of those three 

 

My vote goes for hillary or Bernie 

I think FDR did things the same way as Bernie wants to. Just FYI.

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I think FDR did things the same way as Bernie wants to. Just FYI.

Well I'm speaking out of opinion so thanks for the info 

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Policies such as? Like what would you like to see?

Well not lying, yelling about Muslims, or trying to take guns away would be a good start.

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Well I'm speaking out of opinion so thanks for the info 

Of course! The more info the better!

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Well not lying, yelling about Muslims, or trying to take guns away would be a good start.

Lying: Closet I've seen is Sanders

Muslims: What about them? Bad? Good? Other?

Guns: Uhh, example?

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Lying: Closet I've seen is Sanders

Muslims: What about them? Bad? Good? Other?

Guns: Uhh, example?

I was referring to Clinton with lying, you know the whole email server deal?

As for Trump, he complains about Muslims/Hispanics to much. He needs to realize they are American citizens and deserve to be treated as such. However at the same time keeping illegals out is pretty important in my opinion, but the wall is just plain insane.

One of the few points I agree with Sanders (please note I haven't researched much) is that he doesn't want to take guns away, however I don't like the Socialism aspect of him. He does seem like a nice guy but he wouldn't get my vote. Anyways if that wasn't clear I live in an area where guns are important and as such I believe they need to be legal.

I think Jeb Bush is a terrible candidate as well. The NSA is bullshit, spending tax payer's money to spy on them is ridiculous, especially because they haven't even caught anyone worth mentioning.

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Mainstream media is horrible no matter what. Fox, CNN, etc. PC culture is not just a left wing thing, it's right wing too. I don't think the president controls either of these however.

 

I didn't say it was left or right, but I don't like either. It isn't that a president would control culture or media, but how they present ideas and themselves to the media, and in turn the people consuming that media.

 

As for Trump, he complains about Muslims/Hispanics to much. He needs to realize they are American citizens and deserve to be treated as such. However at the same time keeping illegals out is pretty important in my opinion, but the wall is just plain insane.

 

Where has he complained about Muslim or Hispanic citizens? Why is a wall insane?

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If Trump wins I will lose all hope in humanity.

I'll be honest. He has some not terrible ideas. They aren't the best but I'd say if prefer him over any democrat any day. I'm not going to get into a big debate over this because id probably go too far and get banned lmao. I have strong opinions.

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I was referring to Clinton with lying, you know the whole email server deal?

As for Trump, he complains about Muslims/Hispanics to much. He needs to realize they are American citizens and deserve to be treated as such. However at the same time keeping illegals out is pretty important in my opinion, but the wall is just plain insane.

One of the few points I agree with Sanders (please note I haven't researched much) is that he doesn't want to take guns away, however I don't like the Socialism aspect of him. He does seem like a nice guy but he wouldn't get my vote. Anyways if that wasn't clear I live in an area where guns are important and as such I believe they need to be legal.

I think Jeb Bush is a terrible candidate as well. The NSA is bullshit, spending tax payer's money to spy on them is ridiculous, especially because they haven't even caught anyone worth mentioning.

Yes I do xD Who could forget? Oh right, everyone.

Exactly! That's a great way of doing it. Maybe a slightly more straightforward way of immigrating here? I don't know.

That's ok! The fact that you value politics in some way is more than enough for me. I still recommend research though ^^ I don't think he wanted to take away guns, actually.

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I was referring to Clinton with lying, you know the whole email server deal?

As for Trump, he complains about Muslims/Hispanics to much. He needs to realize they are American citizens and deserve to be treated as such. However at the same time keeping illegals out is pretty important in my opinion, but the wall is just plain insane.

One of the few points I agree with Sanders (please note I haven't researched much) is that he doesn't want to take guns away, however I don't like the Socialism aspect of him. He does seem like a nice guy but he wouldn't get my vote. Anyways if that wasn't clear I live in an area where guns are important and as such I believe they need to be legal.

I don't trust Clinton either. How can you trust someone as president who can't even use a protected email for classified information? I don't believe Sanders isn't going to try to do anything with guns. Politicians do anything for votes.

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Europeans side with the people who speak their language (in terms of politics,) same as anywhere else. Except in Europe it's more of a circlejerk of preaching to the crowd. 

so they please the crowd, that's the fucking point?

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No, there are people fighting to have AK-47s, M16s, and other rifles like that for home use.  I don't get the point, but ya soldiers use them too.  However, there are people wanting to have automatics guns that are so huge that they require a turret due to the weight at home.  I don't get why one would need that much fire power for personal use like that.  We aren't talking about soldiers, but like say your neighbor wants one...that's what we're talking about.

I don't think many people, or anyone for that matter, can own that.

I haven't seen one person ever in my lifetime fighting to legislate the legalization of automatic firearms to the regular consumer. Maybe that's just me. 

 

Europeans side with the people who speak their language (in terms of politics,) same as anywhere else. Except in Europe it's more of a circlejerk of preaching to the crowd. 

 

I just want to clear up one thing about firearms in the US.

 

Automatic firearms are LEGAL in the US. However they are regulated under the National Firearms Act (NFA) and there has been a ban on new manufacture since 1986 under the Firearm Owners Protection Act (FOPA). Because of FOPA the price of the already registered machine guns is outlandishly high. 

 

Long story short, US citizen willing to go through the paperwork, jump through the hoops, pay the tax for a stamp, pay the incredible premium for a full auto firearm (Mac-11's are about the cheapest at ~ $10,000), and pass a federal background check, CAN OWN machine guns.  

 

I think you guys might be confusing automatic firearms with semi-automatic firearms as well. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act

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It doesn't though.

 

Trump vs Putin

 

Now that's something i wanna see

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I just want to clear up one thing about firearms in the US.

 

Automatic firearms are LEGAL in the US. However they are regulated under the National Firearms Act (NFA) and there has been a ban on new manufacture since 1986 under the Firearm Owners Protection Act (FOPA). Because of FOPA the price of the already registered machine guns is outlandishly high. 

 

Long story short, US citizen willing to go through the paperwork, jump through the hoops, pay the tax for a stamp, pay the incredible premium for a full auto firearm (Mac-11's are about the cheapest at ~ $10,000), and pass a federal background check, CAN OWN machine guns.  

 

I think you guys might be confusing automatic firearms with semi-automatic firearms as well. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act

 

The very possibility of owning a firearm is what is wrong with america, keep living in the 1800's 

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I just want to clear up one thing about firearms in the US.

 

You should have read my other posts, not just that one. I already knew everything you just told me. 

 

+1 either way. 

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The very possibility of owning a firearm is what is wrong with america, keep living in the 1800's 

If you don't have anything to add, just go away. You (obviously) don't know what you're talking about, so I wouldn't start and argument. 

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You should have read my other posts, not just that one. I already knew everything you just told me. 

 

I have read the entire thread. If you already knew the info, great! Others may not have, and it is important when discussing matters like this with people from outside the country, to make sure they fully understand as well. 

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The very possibility of owning a firearm is what is wrong with america, keep living in the 1800's 

 

Your opinion is noted. 

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If you don't have anything to add, just go away. You (obviously) don't know what you're talking about, so I wouldn't start and argument. 

 

I have something to add, if you support firearms then you shouldn't even exist in this day and age, America is a violent country with a violent history and your firearms are the only thing you care about because pew pew pew pew

 

2016 still owning a firearm like some sort of uncivilized brethren, kek

 

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I have something to add, if you support firearms then you shouldn't even exist in this day and age, America is a violent country with a violent history and your firearms are the only thing you care about because pew pew pew pew

 

2016 still owning a firearm like some sort of uncivilized brethren, kek

 

Peace m9

trolls get banned before 1,700 posts last I checked. 

 

Oops, babadoctor. 

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trolls get banned before 1,700 posts last I checked. 

 

Oops, babadoctor. 

 

he annoyed me so i want him to get baaaanned boohooo call babadoctor 

 

This is off topic m8, my "trolling" if you want to call it like that,is still an opinion

 

I hope your guns get banned instead 

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he annoyed me so i want him to get baaaanned boohooo call babadoctor 

 

This is off topic m8, my "trolling" if you want to call it like that,is still an opinion

 

I hope your guns get banned instead 

Babadoctor is a funny troll, at least. :/

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It is funny how people that have no understanding of economics or policy degrade and berate others for not having knowledge of either.  99% of this thread is pure crap.  I'll just say it, most of you are not ready to be part of ANY political system.  You were just born into it.  You are like... what do they call them...

 

Anchor babies?

 

Pretty disgusting.

 

Opinions everywhere, facts... somewhere lost to this thread.

 

Funny how some of you think a candidate will "fix" your economic/social situation.  This ain't going to happen.  The very least you can do is talk real policy.  ...maybe try to work your way to discussing who the decent human beings in the run for the presidency are:  Something of value.  No matter who gets elected, money rules.  So try to pick someone that isn't a piece of shit excuse for a life form.

 

Almost forgot:   :)

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