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What do you guys think, should I wait for Pascal

Honestly I'm hyped for Arctic Islands more than Pascal, but I guess I'm a bit of an AMD fanboy. Still like Nvidia though.

 

And you should just buy a PC now, it's not like Pascal is going to crush everything in it's path, and $1500 is enough for a 980 Ti build.

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Honestly I'm hyped for Arctic Islands more than Pascal, but I guess I'm a bit of an AMD fanboy. Still like Nvidia though.

 

And you should just buy a PC now, it's not like Pascal is going to crush everything in it's path, and $1500 is enough for a 980 Ti build.

Wut? Pascal is going to crush everything currently out right now, why wouldn't it?

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Yes and you work at Nvidia?

No, he lives in the real world and understands how market predictions work.

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Yes and you work at Nvidia?

 

Oh let me just go ask my supervisor real fast

you don't understand the concept of supply over demand do you?

Look at the 6700k its still $419 dollars.

More expensive then a i7 Extreme edition.

No, he lives in the real world and understands how market predictions work.

Thank you

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The next series of graphics cards from both manufacturers will be centered on 1440 and above. There will be little improvement in 1080p performance, look at the Fury as an example. The 390x beats it in a lot of games at 1080p.

So what monitor do you have?

If anyone asks you never saw me.

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I was thinking that I would build a new PC on 1500$ budget. My friend said I should wait for Nvidias Pascal release. What do you guys think?

 

You're not giving us much to go on. If you already have a decent gpu then yeah, wait. If your system is crap then just build something now, $1500 can get you a hell of a gaming system today.

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Oh let me just go ask my supervisor real fast

you don't understand the concept of supply over demand do you?

Look at the 6700k its still $419 dollars.

More expensive then a i7 Extreme edition.

Thank you

You didn't elaborate your argument so whatever.

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The Titan Z on launch day was $3,000

you can purchase one now for 1,500

Point made.

Edit:

On launch day I bought my 970 for about $400

Now it goes for $330

And I paid 300us for my Vaporx 290 in August, in October it was 390us for the cheapest anywhere.

So.

If anyone asks you never saw me.

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Yes and the GTX 970 is the same price as launch. So?

low availability high demand

companies make profit 

 

And I paid 300us for my Vaporx 290 in August, in October it was 390us for the cheapest anywhere.

So.

tfw its 300 dollars on new egg

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companies make profit 

 

 

 

Probably one of the most insightful things i've seen on this forum

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yeah, but you can still check the price...

again further proving the point, low availability, higher cost.

Fun fact, I bought the last Vapor X 290 from NewEgg ever sold.

Exactly, look at the Skylake chips, being new didn't cause a price increase, back in August I could have got a 6600k for 15 bucks more than my 4690k. It was when the Skylakes ran out that the price increased. Pascal will be no different. Just buy when they're in stock and the last thing Nvidia wants to give AMD right now is an advantage in available stock.

If anyone asks you never saw me.

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I say go AMD or wait, mainly if you use Windows 10. If not buy anything you like now! :D

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The next generation of GPUs has two advances that matter. The first is that they are using high bandwidth memory which is at least 4x more bandwidth than we have today, its also much lower latency since its on package. The second big advance is a double jump in silicon process technology, allowing up to about 4x the transistors to be placed onto a chip. As such the basic expectation is that the next round of GPUs coud be as much as 4x faster at the same price points as today, that is pretty significant.

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