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Razer Sabertooth and Logitech F710 don't turn on properly during Windows 10 boot

I've had this problem originally with my Razer Sabertooth. It worked fine under Windows 7 but after the update to Windows 10 the controller doesn't always turn on properly during system boot. I have to unplug it and plug it in again in order for it to work - sometimes multiple times. Alternatively I can reinstall the driver via the device manager. As soon as it is properly detected it works absolutely reliable until I reboot the system where it's a throw of the dice again if it turns on. Also, the Gamepad ALWAYS turns on during the bios phase but it turns off (and potentially on again) during the actual windows boot process. I thought that this could be an issue with the gamepad but now I got a Logitech F710 as a christmas present and the same happens with this one. I already tried using my USB 2.0 ports instead of the USB 3.0 ones but that doesn't change anything. I also have USB power savings deactivated under the energy options in Windows 10.

Since it happens with both gamepads I think that it's pretty clear that the issue lies within Windows 10. Does anyone have the same problem and maybe even a solution for it?

CPU: AMD R7 5800x3D | Mainboard: MSI MAG B550m Mortar Wifi | RAM: 32GB Crucial Ballistix 3200 Rev E | GPU: XFX Swift RX 9070 XT | Case: Xigmatek Aquila | PSU: Corsair RM650i | SSDs: 2x TS2TMTE220S NVME SSDs 2TB | Samsung 840 EVO 120GB | Crucial BX300 120GB | HDDs: 2x Seagate Barracuda 4TB | CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2 | Casefans: 2x Arctic P12 aRGB 120mm (Intake), Bequiet Pure Wings 2 140mm (Exhaust) | OS: Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit

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I've noticed at some point on windows 7 updates install, win 8.x and win10, USB hubs and devices sometimes don't power on.

 

Solution to this is software based, the usb keyboard should always be available at bios time (del enter bios etc), but seems things can vary greatly when entering windows now. Windows 10 treats some of my sata plugged in HD's as unpluggable devices (a big WTF lol WesterDigital drives lol).

 

I've not fixed the issue 100% but turning off sleep and power down etc in hardware manager for all usb hubs, devices has helped.

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PS. If your running any win10 hacks to stop it from sharing your personal data or to remove unwanted programs (EG tool on git hub), cortana for example plays a much bigger role than just a voice recognition plugin for the start menu (i found renaming cortana or deleting it from the hd) made a lot of win 10 unstable or unusable. Much like how IE is part of the OS in older versions of windows.

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I've noticed at some point on windows 7 updates install, win 8.x and win10, USB hubs and devices sometimes don't power on.

 

Solution to this is software based, the usb keyboard should always be available at bios time (del enter bios etc), but seems things can vary greatly when entering windows now. Windows 10 treats some of my sata plugged in HD's as unpluggable devices (a big WTF lol WesterDigital drives lol).

 

I've not fixed the issue 100% but turning off sleep and power down etc in hardware manager for all usb hubs, devices has helped.

 

Thanks for the suggestion but unfortunately it doesn't improve things. I guess I'll give MS a call once the holidays are over and see if they have a suggestion (although I doubt it).

 

I don't use any Windows 10 hacks, btw. I just disabled all the privacy options the regular way.

CPU: AMD R7 5800x3D | Mainboard: MSI MAG B550m Mortar Wifi | RAM: 32GB Crucial Ballistix 3200 Rev E | GPU: XFX Swift RX 9070 XT | Case: Xigmatek Aquila | PSU: Corsair RM650i | SSDs: 2x TS2TMTE220S NVME SSDs 2TB | Samsung 840 EVO 120GB | Crucial BX300 120GB | HDDs: 2x Seagate Barracuda 4TB | CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2 | Casefans: 2x Arctic P12 aRGB 120mm (Intake), Bequiet Pure Wings 2 140mm (Exhaust) | OS: Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit

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If you dont see the mic in software provided or on windows recording devices and the mic is extended (and not muted by any hardware buttons), then I would 85% say it's defective unit.

 

Did you mix up the thread? This is about gamepads not working turning on properly under Win10.

CPU: AMD R7 5800x3D | Mainboard: MSI MAG B550m Mortar Wifi | RAM: 32GB Crucial Ballistix 3200 Rev E | GPU: XFX Swift RX 9070 XT | Case: Xigmatek Aquila | PSU: Corsair RM650i | SSDs: 2x TS2TMTE220S NVME SSDs 2TB | Samsung 840 EVO 120GB | Crucial BX300 120GB | HDDs: 2x Seagate Barracuda 4TB | CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2 | Casefans: 2x Arctic P12 aRGB 120mm (Intake), Bequiet Pure Wings 2 140mm (Exhaust) | OS: Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit

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Did you mix up the thread? This is about gamepads not working turning on properly under Win10.

 

Yep my bad, dealing with multiple tabs in chrome and websites replying to people. lol and on LTT

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Yep my bad, dealing with multiple tabs in chrome and websites replying to people. lol and on LTT

 

Don't worry about it, it happens :)

CPU: AMD R7 5800x3D | Mainboard: MSI MAG B550m Mortar Wifi | RAM: 32GB Crucial Ballistix 3200 Rev E | GPU: XFX Swift RX 9070 XT | Case: Xigmatek Aquila | PSU: Corsair RM650i | SSDs: 2x TS2TMTE220S NVME SSDs 2TB | Samsung 840 EVO 120GB | Crucial BX300 120GB | HDDs: 2x Seagate Barracuda 4TB | CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2 | Casefans: 2x Arctic P12 aRGB 120mm (Intake), Bequiet Pure Wings 2 140mm (Exhaust) | OS: Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit

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