Help Designing a POS System

[007agentHP]

so im trying to design a POS (Point Of Sale)  system for a bar of a family member, i have a parts list written up, so can anyone see if im missing anything? Thank you

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Pentium G3220 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($56.98 @ Newegg) 

Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($45.99 @ NCIX US) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($28.99 @ NCIX US) 

Power Supply: SeaSonic 300W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($37.98 @ Newegg) 

Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer  ($16.99 @ Newegg) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit)  ($93.99 @ NCIX US) 

Other: PointOS ($499.99)

Other: Acer Touch Screen Monitor ($189.95)

Other: Cash Drawer + Receipt Printer ($335.00)

Other: Credit Card Swiper ($52.99)

Total: $1435.83

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-20 15:56 EST-0500

[Belgarathian]

Good, just swap out the 1TB Blue for an enterprise 120GB SSD for power loss protection and put in a UPS. 

 

The other way to go would be to get an Intel NUC and use the VESA mount on the touch screen to attach it....

[Theguywhobea]

I doubt they will be storing much data on this system so I think it would add a lot of responsiveness to the system to use an SSD instead.

[Streetguru]

 

so im trying to design a POS (Point Of Sale)  system for a bar of a family member, i have a parts list written up, so can anyone see if im missing anything? Thank you

Um, why not just use a machine built for that job? the UI is bound to be done well as well, wait hang on, that square thing wasn't right

http://www.businessnewsdaily.com/2955-best-pos-systems.html

http://pos-systems-review.toptenreviews.com/

and I guess a number of them can be used with like an ipad, or probably other tablets

[007agentHP]

Um, why not just use a machine built for that job? the UI is bound to be done well as well, wait hang on, that square thing wasn't right

http://www.businessnewsdaily.com/2955-best-pos-systems.html

http://pos-systems-review.toptenreviews.com/

and I guess a number of them can be used with like an ipad, or probably other tablets

he wants a different set up. im just doing what he wants.

[Streetguru]

he wants a different set up. im just doing what he wants.

Well, Square seems to be the way to go overall, you can even charge people directly from like any android or iphone device, I guess it depends more on what kind of business it is to make use of that

https://squareup.com/pos

Also a PC based on this may also be the way to go, it's lower power and cost, and you can use it in an ultra tiny case like this with no issue

IN WIN case with 120W PSU, has decent reviews and since the PC won't use more than 50W it should be good to go

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811108416

You could also just vesa mount the PC to the back of the display

PCPartPicker part list: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/6KJc99

Price breakdown by merchant: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/6KJc99/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD 5350 2.05Ghz Quad-Core Processor  (€46.90 @ Caseking)

Motherboard: MSI AM1I Mini ITX AM1 Motherboard  (€38.49 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (€39.64 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€79.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Total: €204.92

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-21 01:18 CET+0100

and there's some like free point of sale software/OS stuff

https://www.imonggo.com/pricing.html

for $429 you could also just go with an all in one PC and just chain it up somewhere, comes with a 1080p touch screen display

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883281909

Bit more cost, more CPU performance, though only a 900p display

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883220979

[007agentHP]

Well, Square seems to be the way to go overall, you can even charge people directly from like any android or iphone device, I guess it depends more on what kind of business it is to make use of that

https://squareup.com/pos

Also a PC based on this may also be the way to go, it's lower power and cost, and you can use it in an ultra tiny case like this with no issue

IN WIN case with 120W PSU, has decent reviews and since the PC won't use more than 50W it should be good to go

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811108416

You could also just vesa mount the PC to the back of the display

PCPartPicker part list: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/6KJc99

Price breakdown by merchant: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/6KJc99/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD 5350 2.05Ghz Quad-Core Processor  (€46.90 @ Caseking)

Motherboard: MSI AM1I Mini ITX AM1 Motherboard  (€38.49 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (€39.64 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€79.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Total: €204.92

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-21 01:18 CET+0100

and there's some like free point of sale software/OS stuff

https://www.imonggo.com/pricing.html

for $429 you could also just go with an all in one PC and just chain it up somewhere, comes with a 1080p touch screen display

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883281909

Bit more cost, more CPU performance, though only a 900p display

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883220979

isnt a 5350 painfully slow?

[brob]

I would suggest spending the money to get hardware designed specifically for the environment and usage. Yes one spends more initially but pos terminals from the likes of HP, Panasonic, and NCR will be much more reliable. Many of these terminals come with an o/s supported by PointOS and on-site service contracts are usually available.

[Streetguru]

isnt a 5350 painfully slow?

Not too much considering it's cost and TDP, it should be fine for this use case, basically as fast a a Q6600, which is something anyways given AMD's usual performance per watt

 

I had the slower 3850 in a PC and now that's an office PC, it worked fine and even played like minecraft and portal 1

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Athlon+5350+APU+with+Radeon+R3

But ya what that guy said, building a PC is nice if they want a general office PC as well, but a dedicated point of sales machine makes a lot more sense for a business overall due to the features most offer you

[007agentHP]

Not too much considering it's cost and TDP, it should be fine for this use case, basically as fast a a Q6600, which is something anyways given AMD's usual performance per watt

 

I had the slower 3850 in a PC and now that's an office PC, it worked fine and even played like minecraft and portal 1

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Athlon+5350+APU+with+Radeon+R3

But ya what that guy said, building a PC is nice if they want a general office PC as well, but a dedicated point of sales machine makes a lot more sense for a business overall due to the features most offer you

yeah, its also gonna be a general office pc for spreadsheets in the morning / afternoon when the bar isnt open

[Streetguru]

yeah, its also gonna be a general office pc for spreadsheets in the morning / afternoon when the bar isnt open

I'll probably stick to the 5350 recommendation then due to TDP, relative performance to cost and all that, in that tiny case you have a nice little PC you can throw anywhere.

[007agentHP]

I'll probably stick to the 5350 recommendation then due to TDP, relative performance to cost and all that, in that tiny case you have a nice little PC you can throw anywhere.

are you sure that cause can mount of the back of a monitor with a 100 mm X 100 mm mount?

(specific monitor : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009610

​and can it accommodate a cd drive?

[Streetguru]

are you sure that cause can mount of the back of a monitor with a 100 mm X 100 mm mount?

(specific monitor : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009610)

​and can it accommodate a cd drive?

from the Q&A on it, should work as long as it has the vesa mount

although that link doesn't work

 

"There is a VESA mount for this chassis. that's how mine is mounted. It has two hole patterns for two different VESA types, so it's flexible. I don't have the measurements, It looks like it should be 100mm x 100 mm. It looks to big for the 75mm option"

really the all in one isn't too bad an option either, the IO is a little more accessible compared to the vesa mounted case though a simple USb extension cable will fix that, although repairs are naturally easier with the seprate machines

 

6 foot USB extension

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812423042

 

[007agentHP]

from the Q&A on it, should work as long as it has the vesa mount

although that link doesn't work

 

"There is a VESA mount for this chassis. that's how mine is mounted. It has two hole patterns for two different VESA types, so it's flexible. I don't have the measurements, It looks like it should be 100mm x 100 mm. It looks to big for the 75mm option"

but does it support the cd drive?

[Streetguru]

but does it support the cd drive?

You'd either need a USB one or the All in ones usually have a dvd drive

 

the AMD all in one I linked has one, I guess the intel i3 one doesn't.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136283&cm_re=USB_dvd-_-27-136-283-_-Product

half the price, probably less reliable

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106389

Also according to passmark the A6 APU in the all in one is almost on par with the i3, even has the same 15W TDP, dunno what's going on there

 

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2290&cmp[]=2012

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883281909

comes with

Optical Drive Optical Drive Type DVD Super Multi Optical Drive Spec Ultra Slim Fixed SuperMulti DVD Burner

[007agentHP]

You'd either need a USB one or the All in ones usually have a dvd drive

 

the AMD all in one I linked has one, I guess the intel i3 one doesn't.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136283&cm_re=USB_dvd-_-27-136-283-_-Product

half the price, probably less reliable

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106389

Also according to passmark the A6 APU in the all in one is almost on par with the i3, even has the same 15W TDP, dunno what's going on there

 

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2290&cmp[]=2012

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883281909

comes with

Optical Drive Optical Drive Type DVD Super Multi Optical Drive Spec Ultra Slim Fixed SuperMulti DVD Burner

thanks youve been a great help, but i have a few questions about square POS system.

can it run on desktops? 

does is support all major credit cards?

will it work with the following hardware? link included

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bdqc99

specifically the cash drawer, credit card swiper, and receipt printer? and would i need any other cables? like a credit card swiper to receipt printer or something?

[Streetguru]

thanks youve been a great help, but i have a few questions about square POS system.

You can run the Square App on android or iOS

 

As for the rest of that you'll have to look into that, the stand that adds a card reader is like 100 bucks + ipad, probably only takes ipads due to size

Square just seems to be the most popular system

 

I guess Vend is another brand

https://www.vendhq.com/

and Dell does some PoS stuff, usually what the larger retail stores use I think

 

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/category.aspx?c=caca&category_id=5502&cs=cabsdt1&l=enen&s=bsd&~ck=mn

[007agentHP]

You can run the Square App on android or iOS

 

As for the rest of that you'll have to look into that, the stand that adds a card reader is like 100 bucks + ipad, probably only takes ipads due to size

Square just seems to be the most popular system

 

I guess Vend is another brand

https://www.vendhq.com/

and Dell does some PoS stuff, usually what the larger retail stores use I think

 

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/category.aspx?c=caca&category_id=5502&cs=cabsdt1&l=enen&s=bsd&~ck=mn

i need a desktop, not ipad/android so ill think ill go with vend