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Asus geforce gtx 980 ti Poseidon or 980 ti Matrix?

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I was looking at water cooling my gaming computer (which is playing in 1440p) and I was wondering which graphic card would be best. I know that without touching the voltage on the 980 ti Poseidon you can get 1522 MHz but I don't know about the Matrix. Now the Poseidon has DirectCU H2O so it has a built in waterblock so I could hook it up to a loop. This would be cooler than the matrix but only by about 20 degrees Fahrenheit (13 degrees Celsius). So would it be worth it to water cool the gpu? I was also wondering which one could have more of a stable overclock at higher speeds, and which one would be able to play games like The Witcher 3 in 1440p better?

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Hi,

 

I was looking at water cooling my gaming computer (which is playing in 1440p) and I was wondering which graphic card would be best. I know that without touching the voltage on the 980 ti Poseidon you can get 1522 MHz but I don't know about the Matrix. Now the Poseidon has DirectCU H2O so it has a built in waterblock so I could hook it up to a loop. This would be cooler than the matrix but only by about 20 degrees Fahrenheit (13 degrees Celsius). So would it be worth it to water cool the gpu? I was also wondering which one could have more of a stable overclock at higher speeds, and which one would be able to play games like The Witcher 3 in 1440p better?

The Poseidon would be an easier route, but the Matrix with an EK block on it would be a bit better. I'd just go with the Poseidon and hook it up to your loop. Also not trying to be a dick but 20*F is NOT 13*C. 13*C is 55*F.

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I would with a one (not necessarily the Matrix) with a waterblock (EK is very good) 

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Well, you have made a few assumptions here.

 

There is no guarantee that getting a 980ti Poseidon that you can get 1522mhz, thats not how the silicon lottery works

The temperature difference is a bit easier to predict but also heavily dependent on the card, the cooler, your case and your usage.

The stability of an overclock is not determined by the card itself but the testing and verification of the system stability by you, the person doing the overclocking.

Any 980ti will play witcher 3 well regardless of brand

 

The big questions to answer are

1: are you going to put the money and effort into doing a custom liquid loop?

2: would you rather use an easier to build/use AIO liquid cooler, from brands like EVGA, gigabyte, MSI, ect.

3: are you willing to pay extra for a better binned AISC valued card for the theoretical potential of better overclocking.

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 I know that without touching the voltage on the 980 ti Poseidon you can get 1522 MHz but I don't know about the Matrix. 

 

This is not a guarantee on any 980ti regardless of brand or model. A clock speed is only guaranteed if the company (and no company guarantees a clock that high) says the card is able to achieve that out of the box without you touching anything.

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like that guy the other day he got a 980ti lightning from MSI which had 65% ASIC quality he was not even able to get 1400mhz working...there is NO guarantee on overclock.

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The Poseidon would be an easier route, but the Matrix with an EK block on it would be a bit better. I'd just go with the Poseidon and hook it up to your loop. Also not trying to be a dick but 20*F is NOT 13*C. 13*C is 55*F.

 

The reference 980ti is about 83 degrees Celsius and the Poseidon is about 53 degrees Celsius while the matrix is 66 degrees Celsius. It it on ASUS' website

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The reference 980ti is about 83 degrees Celsius and the Poseidon is about 53 degrees Celsius while the matrix is 66 degrees Celsius. It it on ASUS' website

there are plenty of good aircooled models that would be cheaper and would run at around 70c with an overclock.

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I worded this wrong and I meant about 1500 MHz not 1522 which is not guaranteed by any means. So would I be better of going with the matrix and losing the cool fan and led to have a little more performance or hook it up to the EK KIT X360 that I was planning on doing?

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Also wondering if the Asus 980ti strix would be a good card or the EVGA 980ti Classified

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I worded this wrong and I meant about 1500 MHz not 1522 which is not guaranteed by any means. So would I be better of going with the matrix and losing the cool fan and led to have a little more performance or hook it up to the EK KIT X360 that I was planning on doing?

no, i think you don't understand...even 1400mhz is not guaranteed...what is guaranteed to happen is the clockspeed displayed on the front of the box and nothing else.

And no the strix is not very good the fans are loud and it run somewhat hot (around 75c for mine)

The MSI Gaming 6G 980ti is a fabulous card though.

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So should I even spend the $400 to custom watercool my gpu and cpu or just do a aio and get a good card like the matrix or msi 6g?

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Also wondering if the Asus 980ti strix would be a good card or the EVGA 980ti Classified

If you plan to use an EK full cover waterblock you need to check compatibility, many of the non reference design cards use a custom made circuit board that a reference design waterblock will not fit unless EK specifically says so.

 

I worded this wrong and I meant about 1500 MHz not 1522 which is not guaranteed by any means. So would I be better of going with the matrix and losing the cool fan and led to have a little more performance or hook it up to the EK KIT X360 that I was planning on doing?

 

Remember there is no guarantee you'll be able to get even 1 Mhz above stock clocks, overclocking is simply extra performance when possible, the silicon lottery determines what your card is capable of with no guarantees.

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So should I even spend the $400 to custom watercool my gpu and cpu or just do a aio and get a good card like the matrix or msi 6g?

 

I am saying this in the most respectful way possible. From the questions you've put to us and the level of knowledge and experience that it implies I would recommend that you stick to either excellent air cooled options or AIO(all in one) liquid coolers. The level of complexity and potential for catastrophic damage and problems is much much higher with custom water cooling.

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I vote the Matrix, card is a beast and the cooler is sooooo quiet and runs so cool.

At 100% fan speed benchmarking at 1520 mhz 8600+ on the memory it only hits 50c.

With Auto fan speed, fan sits at like 30% and doesn't even go past 65c.

 

It also should come with Samsung memory, and it has memory AND vrm temperature sensors, the Poseidon most likely doesn't have that.

 

 

I will be writing a full review on it soon, with Air / Water / Dry ice overclocking sections in the review.

 

 

Plus it's gorgeous :D

 

 

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Ok say if I went with an aio liquid cooler which one would you recommend?

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The reference 980ti is about 83 degrees Celsius and the Poseidon is about 53 degrees Celsius while the matrix is 66 degrees Celsius. It it on ASUS' website

Yes I know that. Thank goodness you did some research unlike some noobs on this forum... anywho I'm just saying your Fahrenheit to Celsius conversions were off by a mile.

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Bit of an AMD fan I suppose. I don't bias my replies to anything however, I just prefer AMD and their products. Buy whatever the H*CK you want. 

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Ok say if I went with an aio liquid cooler which one would you recommend?

 

These are just simple recommendations, ​For the cpu the Corsair h100i gtx is a simple choice with excellent cooling(there are many other options as well that perform similar).

 

For the graphics card, if you choose Nvidia then EVGA sells many cards with aio water cooling already installed or available for purchase separately.

 

If you choose AMD then most cards are air cooled but the r9 fury x is factory liquid cooled.

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Would I be fine just by doing a air cooled g[u instead of water cooling it and only liquid cooling my cpu (i7 6700k)? Because I was still thinking about getting the matrix 980ti.

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Would I be fine just by doing a air cooled g[u instead of water cooling it and only liquid cooling my cpu (i7 6700k)? Because I was still thinking about getting the matrix 980ti.

 

​Yes, absolutely.

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Would I be fine just by doing a air cooled g[u instead of water cooling it and only liquid cooling my cpu (i7 6700k)? Because I was still thinking about getting the matrix 980ti.

 

Yeah that'd be fine, the H100i GTX or H110i GTX, or Kraken X61 are all good options.

 

 

I really can't recommend the Matrix enough, it runs REALLY cool and makes almost no noise.  All the reviews back it up, and for $710, that's not a bad deal at all.

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One more question. If I can get the fractal design Kelvin S36 would that be good?

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One more question. If I can get the fractal design Kelvin S36 would that be good?

 

​If it fits in your case and works with your cpu choice... yes it would be fine... that is a huge cooler.

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