Techie reasons to like (or not hate) Apple [Serious replies only]

[Tedster]

Reason to like Apple:
Fast phones.

Phones that IMO look nice.

iOS being very optimized

Fast storage on iPhones

 

Reasons to hate Apple:

Price per [storage capacity in gigabytes]

The pixel density on current iPhones is too low for my liking despite how awesome the screens are in other aspects

The megapixelage of their cameras (I really like the Note 4's camera, largely because of the amount of detail it can get and I would like to thank having more megapixelse for that).

Battery capacity.

[atrash]

Top notch customer service. I spent only like 10 minutes or less on the chat with Apple Care doing troubleshooting for my emails in Mail app just now. That 10 minutes include the moment I open the Apple support website to the case being closed and the case reference email received. God damn that's even faster than I can find the solutions online.

[Nup]

The only up of a locked OS, thing work well consistently. Also having the full eco system is great.  

[Samfisher]

They have the balls to branch out and design a custom SoC with the same instruction sets as their competitors and shown what can be achieved for single threaded performance, the most important performance metric in a mobile device.

[NeatSquidYT]

linux is for people who think they're better than anyone else aka douchebags

no, it's not. It's for people who like it, or use it for specialised things that aren't available on Windows or are worse on Windows, such as GCC compiling.

[burnttoastnice]

the main reason i see to like apple, is they are one of the few companies that has an entire ecosystem, and has it 100% figured out.

 

and for the people that like the "entire ecosystem" concept, thats a VERY good point.

 

Their ecosystem is very attractive (And consistent across all their products) - but also really locked-in. When you're in, it's hard to leave.

 

Cookie to everyone that moans about the forum, then participates in a thread that clearly doesn't apply to them; if you don't like Apple, don't post in a thread asking why people like Apple.

 

This.

 

linux is for people who think they're better than anyone else aka douchebags

 

The exit to this thread is at the top and take a left to the LTT logo.

 

iOS being very optimized

 

This. The only problem I have is that iOS isn't as optimised on iPhone 4 (I don't know why people still own those) but really Apple have done a great job in my opinion. Of course I am not interested in owning an apple product myself as I am an android fanboy.

[manikyath]

Their ecosystem is very attractive - but also really locked-in. When you're in, it's hard to leave.

well. some people like to be locked in.

 

its easy when you dont have to bother with comparing phones, smartwatches, laptops, mice, keyboards.

you just grab the new one once your old one doesnt suffice anymore. and you know it'll be an improvement over the old one, with some rough edges worked out.

[rcarteraz]

Old people can easily learn them. At least in my experience.

[NeatSquidYT]

it was more of a joke since this thread turned into a shitstorm but never mind i guess

A joke usually has a jokey manner or structure (or at least a /s or /jk), not the structure of an arrogant prat speaking normally

[Semper]

The user experience.

I find that it's much easier for older generations, and people that are newer to technologies to grasp the concept of both OS-X and iOS than Android, Windows, or Linux.

I also find it easier to teach,as well as troubleshoot remotely when something does go wrong.

 

Security.

Yes, all said and done, UNIX OS's are not impenetrable, but for the layperson (again, older generations, and the like) they are much less likely to contract some type of malware that I then have to resolve.

 

Style.

I don't think that anyone can deny that Apple has a style, and you pay a premium for that slightly-bitten Apple icon now-a-days. I've been using Apple computers since Color CRT Monitors were a big deal. even through their color-craze days that nearly sent them under. Their refined style nowadays is something that I find appealing.

 

The "it just works" factor.

As a techie, like most on this forum, I can appreciate that Android is a much more open platform. But I also have an appreciation that i can just pick up my iPhone (still " way back" on the 4s) and it simply works. I don't have to try and find out what's causing "x" to drain my battery so quickly,  "y" to lock my phone up, or worry if "z" is malware hidden in an appealing app.

 

Ecosystem.

Nearly all Apple devices have a very cohesive ecosystem. What some may view as a negative, I see as a positive. Apple products interface seamlessly with other Apple products.

 

I'm not an Apple fanboy, I'm not a Windows fanboy, I'm not a Linux fanboy. I interface with Apple and Windows platforms on a daily basis. I know both of them well. I interface with Linux far less often, and don't know nearly as much about it, but I can respect that each has it's place. I'm a fanboy of function. Anything that makes my life easier is working as intended.

[Guest]

On a serious note, their stance on security and CS. https://www.apple.com/business/docs/iOS_Security_Guide.pdf

 

it was more of a joke since this thread turned into a shitstorm but never mind i guess

 

holy shit no one can take a joke

 

Where on earth was there a hint of a shitstorm in this thread... Other than the odd person that can't read and only posts a reason they dislike Apple.

[LukaP]

holy shit no one can take a joke

in a thread clearly labeled as [serious replies only] its kinda obvious

[Misanthrope]

No tech related issues to hate them. There's tech related issues to just use alternatives mainly to save money, configure more akin to your needs and such. But this is not unlike gaming consoles: for most people it's fine to just get an imac if they can afford one, but for most people that should know better (Like any professional use when an IT department and a budget is present) should do better.

[LIGISTX]

Their physical design and choice of materials is bar none the best. Their choice to not settle for what exists and go make things better on their own accord and not off anyone else agenda is amazing, and they are great at pushing design. The build quality is spectacular, the parts they use are top notch (yes, iphone batteries are kinda small, but they solve that issue with AN OS THAT ACTUALLY WORKS IN STANDBY MODE), and their attention to detail is pretty spectacular.

 

This is coming from a major PC enthusiast who has and will likely never own a mac desktop - at least not in the near future, and I don't see it ever happening - and from someone who got a 2012 macbook and swapped the hdd out for a Vertex 4 with ONLY windows 7 on it since I do not like OS X. But their products are spectacular!

[Rohith_Kumar_Sp]

How can you hate a company without even using their products ?
should you chose to hate a company if you don't like it ? 

i ask this to myself, although i don't like apple, i certainly don't hate them, but rather don't like US people buying them just because it's the new apple. 

yes, there's nothing wrong in that, but i guess it's the same people who argue console is best as they don't have to deal with picking PC parts and stuff as their defense why they think PC gaming is dumb. 

i do realize half of the apple users don't care what's on the new phone but to have it to keep their maintenance with their friends who have the new apple products  

now, do i hate apple ? no, do i love them ? no, do i like them ? as much as i like any other electronics.

if you are asking me do i hate people who use apple products ? no, do i like them ? as much as i like any other rational people. but there are those few i regrettably facepalm for writing article how the new apple's "right click" aka shortcut is revolution when they clearly are just a apple geek.

why did i say all this ? no reason, just wanted to get it out.

[LIGISTX]

The pixel density on current iPhones is too low for my liking despite how awesome the screens are in other aspects

I am going to call you out on that one, the rest of your argument is fine, I can't really argue with it. But PPI on iphones is past the "retina" mark where you can't even tell anymore. There is negative affect from going beyond that point, performance takes a hit, battery goes to shit, and there is NO benefit to the user.

[Misanthrope]

Their physical design and choice of materials is bar none the best. Their choice to not settle for what exists and go make things better on their own accord and not off anyone else agenda is amazing, and they are great at pushing design. The build quality is spectacular, the parts they use are top notch (yes, iphone batteries are kinda small, but they solve that issue with AN OS THAT ACTUALLY WORKS IN STANDBY MODE), and their attention to detail is pretty spectacular.

 

This is coming from a major PC enthusiast who has and will likely never own a mac desktop - at least not in the near future, and I don't see it ever happening - and from someone who got a 2012 macbook and swapped the hdd out for a Vertex 4 with ONLY windows 7 on it since I do not like OS X. But their products are spectacular!

 

You really think products that thermal throttle or can't drive the display used have no better choice? Or do you only care about the materials and physical design when it comes to the outside? In which case you'd probably love Lian Li and Inwin cases.

[LIGISTX]

You really think products that thermal throttle or can't drive the display used have no better choice? Or do you only care about the materials and physical design when it comes to the outside? In which case you'd probably love Lian Li and Inwin cases.

I should have specified, with regard to their phones. The super thin "laptop" that is really a tablet is just them pushing into the future, I would never buy that or advice anyone (except specific people for specific reasons) to buy that.

 

Their desktops do throttle some, but only under heavy load. And I hold; if you are buying a mac desktop all in one thingy, you are not the serious high end computer user, thus it will not be an issue for you, at all. The few times it may throttle you, the people who use them wouldn't even know thermal throttle is a thing.

 

Their normal laptops are amazing, and their phones are untouchable design wise.

[LIGISTX]

Also, for anyone who is going to say they are overpriced, go watch the latest WAN show archive lol. If you go and develop your own NVME controller FOR A PHONE, make a fingerprint reader that is just phenomenal, and somehow cram everything they do into such a small form factor (seriously, make the phone as large as the camera lenses and add more battery Apple, comeon), they are expensive, not overpriced. lol.

[Misanthrope]

I should have specified, with regard to their phones. The super thin "laptop" that is really a tablet is just them pushing into the future, I would never buy that or advice anyone (except specific people for specific reasons) to buy that.

 

Their desktops do throttle some, but only under heavy load. And I hold; if you are buying a mac desktop all in one thingy, you are not the serious high end computer user, thus it will not be an issue for you, at all. The few times it may throttle you, the people who use them wouldn't even know thermal throttle is a thing.

 

Their normal laptops are amazing, and their phones are untouchable design wise.

 

Right so you shouldn't buy it for serious high end usage, yet you are paying serious high end price tags, but not to actually use it intensively of course.

 

Laptops are ok for the price but limited in choice and phones I don't really care: I've gone back to seeing phones as tools not main devices so most of them after the 4S era will do for me, Android or Apple.

[Swndlr]

High quality, basically second to none

I think OSX is smoother than Windows for work

Truthfully if youre spending the big bucks ur getting top quality stuff

 

Am big Apple fan, I like their products

[LIGISTX]

 

Right so you shouldn't buy it for serious high end usage, yet you are paying serious high end price tags, but not to actually use it intensively of course.

 

Yup, they are not for the serious high end user. Most people in the world would NEVER be able to get a i5 or i7 anywhere close to 100%, most would struggle to get it pinned to 50%. Apple understands this, and builds the device accordingly. They make them amazing to look at, and the build quality is superb. They do cost a lot, but you pay for the "fancyness" of it, not the specs since it realistically won't actually run as fast as the individual parts in it allow for. If you need serious horsepower, you buy their trash can looking while still pretty beautiful workstation, or you go windows.

[Misanthrope]

Yup, they are not for the serious high end user. Most people in the world would NEVER be able to get a i5 or i7 anywhere close to 100%, most would struggle to get it pinned to 50%. Apple understands this, and builds the device accordingly. They make them amazing to look at, and the build quality is superb. They do cost a lot, but you pay for the "fancyness" of it, not the specs since it realistically won't actually run as fast as the individual parts in it allow for. If you need serious horsepower, you buy their trash can looking while still pretty beautiful workstation, or you go windows.

 

Right a stupid fucking fashion accessory that serves as a tech product but only as a secondary role to looks. This is why people hate apple because people seriously defend that when speaking about tech.

[LIGISTX]

Right a stupid fucking fashion accessory that serves as a tech product but only as a secondary role to looks. This is why people hate apple because people seriously defend that when speaking about tech.

I don't understand your hatred, or your point. For people like most of us, no, they wouldn't suffice, and if you like OS X build a hackintosh. Its not hard at all. But for those who like the sleek look, and the still very solid internal hardware although it will not sustain its turbo speeds, its just fine. No normal PC user could possibly get a modern i5 or i7 into a situation where it will start to thermal throttle, so its really not an issue, at all. Hell, even with all of my 50+ chrome tabs, photoshop, lightroom and playing a game, my i7 doesn't even try. RAM is a bigger issue, and SSD is possibly even more of one. They charge a lot, but you are paying for the quality, engineering, and R&D. Just because you don't agree with the way they do it doesn't make it bad, it just means you should build a PC, which you have done.

[Misanthrope]

I don't understand your hatred, or your point. For people like most of us, no, they wouldn't suffice, and if you like OS X build a hackintosh. Its not hard at all. But for those who like the sleek look, and the still very solid internal hardware although it will not sustain its turbo speeds, its just fine. No normal PC user could possibly get a modern i5 or i7 into a situation where it will start to thermal throttle, so its really not an issue, at all. Hell, even with all of my 50+ chrome tabs, photoshop, lightroom and playing a game, my i7 doesn't even try. RAM is a bigger issue, and SSD is possibly even more of one. They charge a lot, but you are paying for the quality, engineering, and R&D. Just because you don't agree with the way they do it doesn't make it bad, it just means you should build a PC, which you have done.

 

Actually you did understand, you just disagree. I don't like fashion. Of any kind. Some people do and while they're entitled to it I am also entitled to ridicule anyone who indulges in it.