Box Box Box - Sim Racing Players Club [Now Hype Train Enabled!]

[MEC-777]

Just 2 weeks until this DLC drops! No word on Patch 8.0 as of now.

 

https://youtu.be/8lvwAqmLl7g

 

 

 

Dat new track... Can't wait!!! Love p2p stages and this one looks to be an interesting one.

[chaozbandit]

That looks like so much fun... If only I had the time to commit to these races. If there was enough interest, I wouldn't mind starting up an LMG racing league. *wink wink*  Would need enough people to make it worth it though. 10+ would be ideal. Maybe I'll start a thread to see if there's any interest. Would just be for fun, no season points or anything.

 

I'd be down. Surprisingly, there aren't many series catering to the north american players. I'd happily take having a race at a reasonable time over points lol.

[brownninja97]

Just so you guys know URD will have the full WEC lineup and there will be a 24 hour race in both Rfactor 2 and assetto corsa, they said they might also have it ready for project cars though they are struggling with balance because they arent used to its physics. There will also be 4 and 12 hour races in july.

[MEC-777]

Some footage from qualifying for a race last night in PCars with randoms in the Zakspeed Capri - one of my fav cars.

 

 

Got the pole and kept it. Race started (8 laps), managed to get a good launch and not get caught up in first corner. Pulled away from the pack and pulled out a decent lead by mid race. Then started to hit lap traffic. Some people kindly moved out of the way (thank you @chaozbandit ) while others tried to deliberately block me or spin me out. Luckily I just waited until they screwed up the next corner and cruised on by. Those moron's slowed me down a bit and the 2nd place car was now breathing down my neck. Last lap, 2nd last corner, guy behind bumps me while braking and sends me around. Nice.  <_< Finished 4th. 

 

Was still a fun race and was a fight to the bitter end, trying to avoid traffic during the 2nd half. Besides that, it was one of the most consistent races I've ever run. Not an easy car to drive in the least, I had it set to give full boost and combined that with a taller final drive ratio which helped me pull away on corner exits and down straights (could tell those who were using the default setups).

 

Will post up a thread to see if there's interest in an LTT fun league later today.

[chaozbandit]

IT'S HAPPENING!

 

Stanceworks Track Expansion confirmed for January 26.

 

 

From the mouth of the boss himself, you can read more about the DLC via the Redbull interviews here:

 

http://www.redbull.com/en/games/stories/1331769972853/project-cars-dlc-behind-the-scenes

http://www.redbull.com/en/games/stories/1331769969427/project-cars-dlc-red-bull-x-mad-mike

 

But to sum up again if you missed the post a while back, the cars coming this month are: BMW 2002SW, BMW 1M SW (fictional track car), KTM X-Bow R, and Mad Mike's Mazda MX-5 NC "Radbull." The free car is the Ford Falcon FG V8 Supercar. 

 

One thing to note about Radbull is that this is it's latest configuration - gone is the massive wing and open cockput, replaced by a small ducktail to better fit the Rocketbunny kit, although without the carbon roof skin to cover the roll cage.

 

As it's a track expansion, there's obviously going to be a new location which is set in the highlands of Scotland. Titled Bannochbrae, or Nessie, this is set to compliment the French Riviera and Monaco locations already in the game. No word on whether it will be a point-to-point (P2P) or a circuit track, like it was during testing, but what we do know is that SMS have planned for it to have multiple layouts in addition to modifying a gas station to act as a pit lane. This may mean it will be a functional pit area like that of Rouen-Les-Essarts, or it may simply be a starting point like that of the Nordschleiffe.

 

 

StanceWorks may be called a track expansion, but it also adds a new racing discipline to the community-driven racing sim: the RADBUL's debut also marks the first time that a dedicated drift machine has been added to the game, and shows we can expect much from Slightly Mad in 2016.

 

 

"Our On Demand program hits the ground running in 2016 with a big expansion that includes the KTM X-Bow R, professional drifter Mad Mike Whiddett’s Mazda MX-5 RADBUL Formula Drift car and two BMWs – the 1-Series M-Coupe and 2002 model," he reveals. "Both BMWs been modified and lowered by renowned automotive lifestyle enthusiasts Stanceworks."

The Stanceworks Track Expansion, which arrives on January 26 on PS4, Xbox One and PC, is not just a handful of new cars for the virtual garage, however.

"It also includes a new road course located in the highlands of Scotland, to join the existing ones in the US and the French Riviera," says Tudor. "And as if that wasn't enough, the free car this month is the Ford Falcon FG, which saw huge popularity in Australia’s V8 Supercar series."

 

 

"The concept for the Bannochbrae road course actually happened over four years ago, believe it or not," he says. "We wanted to represent the kind of beautiful sweeping roads and countryside that many fans in the UK love to take road trips to visit. A pit lane positioned beside a petrol station near a small village, a loch complete with sailing ships, a high viaduct and local chapel, and even some animated sheep make this an ideal location for historical recreations."

 

[MEC-777]

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/525871-interested-in-an-ltt-racing-leaguegroup-lets-get-one-going/

[MEC-777]

IT'S HAPPENING!

 

Stanceworks Track Expansion confirmed for January 26.

 

 

 

Yeeeeeeesssss!!!!

[chaozbandit]

Double (triple) post!? Well, actually I meant to post this yesterday but I fell asleep so..

 

I've been having a heck of a time with my crossfire setup. Having acquired a second 290 not too long ago (you know who you are, and thank you! ), a new EVGA 1000W PSU installed and new overclocks, I was extremely excited to give the new rig a good shakedown. Everything was fine and dandy for the next while. 200+ FPS in CS:GO, 60 FPS stable in GTA V with settings maxed, 40 FPS in Project CARS with ultra settings and 24 cars - all while driving my Asus MG279Q 1440P Freesync monitor without any issues at all. Then came time to get back in the groove and start recording things, since the sim racing league season was resuming soon. Aaaaaaand problem.

 

For reference, here is what my recordings looked like with a single Asus 290 DCII OC. Stock clocks, Crimson 15.12 drivers installed, OBS recording at CRF=20 - overall my normal routine.

 

 

Here's what it looks like once I added in the second card (below). Note the massive frame drops. Without changing any of the in-game settings, I had dropped from what was once a playable 30-40 FPS to a miserable 10-15 FPS. You see, OBS (Multiplatform is the version I'm using) handles crossfire in a funny way. With it running in the background, it will not utilize your second GPU although it will still record. By enabling what they call "Multi-Adapter Compatability" you are able to use the power of both GPUs AND record, but the subsequent load on the CPU is greatly increased, with OBS showing 35-50% CPU load. The end result is my CPU usage jumped from 70-80% in regular play to 95%+ while recording, which is a major drawback when you're trying to render out 24 cars plus associated weather and particle effects.

 

 

Now begins the fun (not really) search for alternatives. I approached this in a lowest hanging fruit methedology. I know OBS is fine, I know the drivers are fine for pCARS (used this for most of my testing as I knew for a fact GTA was working), so let's play around with the Steam launch setting - common practice for those wishing to tinker.

 

 

But what does the above string really do? -pthreads tells the engine how many physical threads to utilize. In my case, the FX-8350 is registered as having 4 physical cores, hence the 4 that follows it (default is 2). -dx11mt is pretty self explanatory as it forces DX11 rendering, as is -skipcrowds (additionally you could add -novr). In the interest of time I also decided to compound a decrease in in-game graphics to try and boost the FPS. Still running 1440p60 (with Freesync enabled) but now everything that was on Ultra is now High, and everything High was bumped down to Medium (along with all particle effects).

 

Additionally I decided not to rely solely on OBS and used a slightly more complicated workaround involving DXTory (huge thanks to the9quad over at OBS' forums for this tip). You see, instead of using OBS to capture the GPU output, you use the lighter load DXTory to act as a video capture device for whatever you are playing. Instead of exporting the live data to a file, you instead stream the RawCap data to OBS, with OBS recognizing DXTory as "Video Capture 1" and instead recording that display instead of directly from the game. The end result: FPS was at 16 fps during race start and climbed slowly to 24FPS once the cars were spread out (used AI driving for consistency). Better, but still far from playable (although he was partly right about taking zero performance hit).

 

This is where you'll just have to take my word for it, as I didn't have any recordings saved or data screencapped. Next up was the AMD Drivers. Crimson 16.1 had just been released (fun fact: AMD names drivers in a year-month format, so 16.1 is 2016 January, 15.12 is 2015 December) and I decided to give that a whirl. This is where I derped and forgot to add the crossfire profile for project cars, falsely labelling the Hotfix as a bust. The result was although Crossfire was enabled in Crimson, only the primary GPU was enabled in game. Starting FPS was now 12 and I only saw peaks go as high as 18 FPS, so back to 15.12 for further testing.

 

Next up was OBS. Double checked my settings and did whatever I could to minimize the CPU load; bumped up CRF to 25, decreased the bit-rate, killed all background tasks, the lot. Not only had peak FPS dropped to 21-22 but now CPU usage, as reported by MSI Afterburner, was pinned at 100% - something I wasn't too keen on having in the event that a mission critical event occurs during a race. By now I was running out of options trying to look for a software solution. The last thing I had in mind was to decrease the resolution.

 

Two routes here: native in 1440p and downscale to 1080p in OBS, or set native to 1080p and just record that at new settings. Both saw minimal increases in low FPS sectors and the max FPS barely topped 22. CPU load was still pinned at 100% (these tests were 5L races, as opposed to 10 for every other test); Unified GPU load changed very little across all tests, apart from the 16.1 derp.

 

By now I have accepted that it's time to give up on OBS, even with the DXTory work around. Don't get me wrong, I still love the software to death and it is hands-down the easiest to get up and going for single-GPU recording with the least hit in quality (aka closest to lossless with minimal file size), but the headaches it causes sometimes just keep pushing me away. I wasn't too interested in buying new hardware either (despite how amazing ShadowPlay is) which ruled out capture cards (namely the LiveGamer HD Portable, as I'd lose out my displayport inputs) and a dedicated recording/streaming PC. 

 

Then a breakthrough - I remembered I had an older copy of Bandicam (v2.4, current version is v3.0) and decided to give it a whirl. Oh my word, this was surprisingly the missing piece of the puzzle! Once I got everything configured, I decided to run a few quick tests in Project CARS, as you can see below. Full resolution enabled (recorded in 1440p but output file was 1080p, so will have to diagnose that later) and with quality set to 100, I decided to test out the two different H.264 encoders.

 

 

 

On the left is the standard H.264 encoding and on the right is H.264 hardware accelerated encoding, specifically AMD APP. Temperatures didn't change at all but the usage % was quite impressive - with H.264 CPU, the load was again 95%+ but it was never pinned at 100% like it was with OBS/DXTory. In H.264 AMD APP, CPU load dropped to 80-90% and GPU fluctuated between 70 and 90%. Something interesting to note is also file sizes - all of this is on-the-fly compression, but the CPU file was 4x larger than the GPU file, with a 10 minute recording in H.264 AMD APP taking up just 1.3 GB (a later 70 minute recording only took up 5 GB).

 

But what about the FPS? (THE NUMBERS MASON, WHAT DO THEY MEAN). Recall that my FPS while not recording at 1440p ultra-high was 30-40 FPS, with the OBS recording dropping that to a max of 24. If I dropped settings to 1440p high-medium, also while not recording, the FPS would jump to 50-60. With Bandicam running in H.264 AMD APP, the in-game FPS was 40-57 FPS - a heck of a lot more playable, and well within the MG279Q's Freesync range (30-90 FPS) so I hardly noticed any dropped frames. 

 

 

Quite fittingly with this achievement, I managed to record my new PB at Brands Hatch while practicing for my upcoming AOR race (Wednesday), that being a 1:26.1 with 19L of fuel left (I did a 1:26.8 with 60L prior in the session). Compared to the first video I linked (the AOR race @ Sonoma), there is a 10-15% image quality hit but quite frankly I could care less right now because I got crossfire enabled capture to work at all. I'm betting that it's the H.264 AMD APP codec that is causing the hit, and while it gets the job done now, I do miss the super crisp quality I got with OBS. Will be testing out the YV12 codec later on, as it is supported by Bandicam and is a lossless codec (though slower than H.264); a downside is that file sizes in YV12 are 10x larger than raw files in H.264 AMD APP.

 

My thoughts are still all over the place but I'm so far pleased with the progress. I will be doing some more testing today and tomorrow, and will probably have a final decision by Friday. The thing that I am most concerned about now is source file size, let alone the final. The file sizes in lossless DXTory capture (what I started out with 4 years ago) is why I stop using it today, but it looks like I'll be facing the same issues now with Bandicam. Not that it matters that much since the size once it goes through Sony Vegas is still 15GB for a 90 minute video, regardless of source (note: pretty sure Sony's AVC codec for rendering also only uses one GPU with OpenCL acceleration, even with CF enabled, so I'm limited to 1080P for resolution).

[chaozbandit]

Ed Mas (based out of Ottawa, Canada, and responsible for all of SMS' DLC trailers) just dropped this! Video of the Redbull drifting around.

 

https://giant.gfycat.com/SadUnknownHeterodontosaurus.webm

[ScarisRacer]

Ed Mas (based out of Ottawa, Canada, and responsible for all of SMS' DLC trailers) just dropped this! Video of the Redbull drifting around.

 

https://giant.gfycat.com/SadUnknownHeterodontosaurus.webm

Damn!!!!

[MEC-777]

Ed Mas (based out of Ottawa, Canada, and responsible for all of SMS' DLC trailers) just dropped this! Video of the Redbull drifting around.

 

https://giant.gfycat.com/SadUnknownHeterodontosaurus.webm

 

Can't wait to drive that thing.

[bcredeur97]

Can't wait to drive that thing.

New fastest car in the game I wonder? If you somehow manage to get it to stay in a straight line lel

[MEC-777]

New fastest car in the game I wonder? If you somehow manage to get it to stay in a straight line lel

 

It'll be fast, but far from the fastest, I would imagine. I just hope they did the suspension and steering geometry right so as to allow for more steering angle. That's half the problem I have when drifting the current cars in the game; they typically don't allow enough opposite lock to bring it back from a big angle slide. Hopefully they got it right with this one.

[chaozbandit]

GOOD NEWS!

 

I am now evaluating a new single player mod that basically unlocks (unpacks SMS boot files) the ability for multi-class racing with the AI; of course you select x number of cars and what classes/liveries, but it's magnitudes better than what SMS have provided. Here are in-progress shots from testing. I will be recording a race later tonight after AOR practice, and hopefully have it posted by tomorrow.

 

[brownninja97]

holy shit thats pretty awesome.

[chaozbandit]

No updates for now, but here's Max Verstappen - aka the youngest F1 driver in history, now 18 years of age - playing Project CARS at home in his Redbull Playseat rig. His SLI looks like a Pro-Race unit from SimRacingHardware Leo Bodnar-based SLI-PRO judging from the position of the gear indicator and slight curvature of the top row of LEDs, but his wheel setup looks to be custom probably due to the need to replicate his seating position in an F1 car. Can't really tell what base he's using because of the column extension, but I'd liken to something like a Fanatec V2 base, or because he's balling in sponsorship money, an Accuforce base. The motion rig is pretty neat though... my first time driving in one, it took me a good few laps to adjust to the pitch and yaw.

 

 

Just check out that pedal control! Really precise pedal movements likely due to muscle memory; note how he manages throttle-induced slip angle and how he can brake at full force with no lockup. Also note how lightning quick his downshifts are and how the car never hits the rev limiter for an excessively long period of time, meaning he is relying very little on the car's engine braking - something that can really only be done in a Formula A car. Unsure as to whether he was using the DRS or KERS, since I couldn't tell if he mapped them to his wheel.

[brownninja97]

I know i dont normally post this sort of stuff but look what raceroom getting. cant say how long ive wanted imsa gto cars in a sim racer. 

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/raceroom/sets/72157650911681459

[chaozbandit]

I know i dont normally post this sort of stuff but look what raceroom getting. cant say how long ive wanted imsa gto cars in a sim racer. 

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/raceroom/sets/72157650911681459

~~

 

I know how you feel, but at the end of the day it comes down to how much they are willing to pay for licensing. You can kind of group Gr.5 and IMSA GTO classes together when you look at what sims are getting what. For example, comparing pCARS to FM6: both have the Capri Gr.5 but PC gets the 320 Turbo ontop whereas FM6 got the Lancia Beta Montecarlo Turbo. It's worse with the IMSA cars. Both titles got the Audi 90, but FM6 added the RX7 and 300ZX. Probably a lot more I'm forgetting from the standard car list but you get the idea.

 

I really enjoy R3E, having bought both the ADAC GT Masters and DTM experiences. The one thing that is keeping me from playing is just how much they charge for DLC, and as much as I want to expand my library to the size of AC, my student budget just can't afford it. I think the only extra piece of content I've purchased so far (aside from the experiences) is the GTR GT3. R3E is also one of those games that doesn't particularly agree with crossfire, so yeah (not that it's very demanding to begin with).

 

Double edit

http://game.raceroom.com/store/cars/

^ So many cars, just asking to be bought...

http://game.raceroom.com/store/tracks/type/circuit

^ HNNNGH THOSE TRACKS (though I own a few because of the experiences). 

 

Triple edit: It will take $42 USD ($60 CAD) to buy all remaining content for R3E... Hmm....

 

[MEC-777]

I know i dont normally post this sort of stuff but look what raceroom getting. cant say how long ive wanted imsa gto cars in a sim racer. 

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/raceroom/sets/72157650911681459

 

I know how you feel, but at the end of the day it comes down to how much they are willing to pay for licensing. You can kind of group Gr.5 and IMSA GTO classes together when you look at what sims are getting what. For example, comparing pCARS to FM6: both have the Capri Gr.5 but PC gets the 320 Turbo ontop whereas FM6 got the Lancia Beta Montecarlo Turbo. It's worse with the IMSA cars. Both titles got the Audi 90, but FM6 added the RX7 and 300ZX. Probably a lot more I'm forgetting from the standard car list but you get the idea.

 

I really enjoy R3E, having bought both the ADAC GT Masters and DTM experiences. The one thing that is keeping me from playing is just how much they charge for DLC, and as much as I want to expand my library to the size of AC, my student budget just can't afford it. I think the only extra piece of content I've purchased so far (aside from the experiences) is the GTR GT3. R3E is also one of those games that doesn't particularly agree with crossfire, so yeah (not that it's very demanding to begin with).

 

Double edit

http://game.raceroom.com/store/cars/

^ So many cars, just asking to be bought...

http://game.raceroom.com/store/tracks/type/circuit

^ HNNNGH THOSE TRACKS (though I own a few because of the experiences). 

 

Triple edit: It will take $42 USD ($60 CAD) to buy all remaining content for R3E... Hmm....

 

 

R3E has really good physics and is, overall, a very good racing sim. Not to mention their vehicle sounds... some of the best I've heard.

 

My main issue with R3E is the lack of MP activity. I don't often have time during the day to jump on and do some racing, so it's usually after dinner to late evening by the time I get on. By then, there's nobody playing and those that are are playing with the free content or have it set to novice difficulty. If more people were on MP more often, I would certainly play it a lot more. 

 

My one and only other beef with R3E (other than DLC prices) is the fact that even with shifting mode set to H-pattern and auto clutch off, you can still shift without using the clutch instead of it just getting stuck in neutral or grinding like it does in AC and PCars (like it would in real life). Do any of you know, am I missing an option somewhere in the game that will make shifting more realistic? This has kind of turned me off of playing this game.

 

As for the cost of DLC, I pretty much never buy anything for this game unless it's on sale for a significant discount (30% or more, depending on the cost of the item) or if it's a discount on group items. I have most of the tracks and about half the cars (have the 90's DTM car pack plus some others I specifically wanted (GR.5 cars, 935 etc. ). But still, when I look at how much I've spent in total on this game, I cringe a little. Classic free to play trap.

 

Anyways, yeah, great game and that new GTO car pack is really tempting me... If it wasn't for that shifting flaw, I'd play this game a lot more. 

 

EDIT - Forgot to mention; as for the Gr.5 vs GTO, as far as the Zakspeed Capri and Audi 90, the Audi is definitely faster. @bcredeur97 and I have raced these two a few times. They are kind of close, but once the Audi is in front, there's no catching up.

 

Some video evidence. I made a mistake which allowed him to pass, but seeing how he was all over my rear bumper up until then, it's pretty clear. Would love to have more GTO cars in PCars. That Audi is a monster.

[Techicolors]

do any of you guys run with a dedicated sim rig? meaning you have a cockpit that you've built yourself? or a pre-built cockpit like the obutto or one of those steering wheel stands?

 

when i had my G27 i just mounted it to a computer cart that had locks on the casters, but it still moved around like no one's business. couldn't race for more than an hour because it was too bothersome. 

[chaozbandit]

WELP I didnt feel like doing anything last night after Steam crashed during practice, so these are a few hours late again! And while this 2 hour render gets underway and to spare you an additional 2 hours wait for YouTube to process, here's everything I got so far.

 

For reference, the car count is set to 24 although the maximum is 32 cars (I think). AI difficulty is set to 80% just because I didn't know how the AI would handle the multi-class system, though in hindsight the default 90%+ should give any player a decent challenge. The in-game calendar date was set to yesterday (January 12, 2016) with the race start at 12PM, with time acceleration at 5x (fuel and tire wear set to real). This means sunset is ~4PM (80% race distance) and tires are colder, for longer. To avoid having to filter through slower cars off the bat, the format was 20 minute qualifying followed by a 60 minute race.

 

Unsurprisingly the grid order was 4 LMP1s (Toyota, Audi, Toyota, Audi), followed by 5 LMP2s, and the rest were GT3 cars. Lights out, I had a terrible start, but the classes pretty much got away without incident - the LMP1s pulled clear of the LMP2s within half a lap, but the GT3s fell away from the LMP2s pretty much instantly. 

 

Oh, before we get to the race: here's what it looks like when an AI driven R18 tries to pass you during qualifying.

 

 

 

At a 2:14 pace, it took about 10 laps before the LMP2 leaders caught up to the back of the GT3 field. I was able to keep up with the LMP2 lead for the better part of the first stint, managing a 2-3 second gap (to mitigate any risk of aero damage/push) while at the same time increasing the lead to the guy behind me, eventually bringing it to 20 seconds before I overtook for the LMP2 lead as shown below (though I'm not too surprised that slower traffic made the pass quite easy).

 

 

The next few laps were all about managing traffic flow and not letting the guy behind me overtake for the lead, which at 80% isn't too hard. Around this time the LMP1 leaders started pitting for some reason, I'd guess for fuel and tires, and I am not sure whether the GT3 cars did the same (they shouldn't need to since their fuel can last the entire race). I was on a 1 stop strategy, so this didn't bother me too much and I just kept pushing on. 

 

 

I passed most of the GT3 field but I couldn't tell who was in the lead of that class; by L20 I was being passed by the two TS040s, who were within 1 second of each other for the entire race, and showed no signs of yielding to the racing line - though me going wide was partly my mistake, so not too sure on this one. By now, I was debating on when to pit for fuel and tires. Starting with 70L of fuel, I would have enough for ~20 laps but after getting lapped, my tires had dropped below their operating range (normally 75C, now hovering around 68C) which meant a lot of understeer, making the car hard to drive. By the time I came in for my stop (a lap after the guy behind me pitted, attempting an undercut), I had 12 points of degradation on the front tires and 6 on the rears.

 

 

And this is where I derp a bit. PCars pit system, in case you haven't figured it out yet, is not adding x litres of fuel to your existing tank but rather you choose what level of fuel to fill your current tank up to. So instead of adding 20L of fuel for my second stint (which would bring me to ~30L), I only brought my fuel level to 20L before the stop completed. This meant that while I did have new tires, I would have to come back in for a splash and dash or risk running out of fuel on the 2nd last lap. This derp (and resulting 8 second stop + pit lane time) lost me the lead by 5 seconds; although I had a 45 second lead over the guy 3rd in class, I spun a few times and came into contact passing some backmarkers, which dropped the gap to 20 seconds.

 

 

As the race came to a conclusion, and with headlights on with 5 minutes to go, I began to collect my thoughts on what was a genuinely enjoyable race...

 

Is the mod perfect? Not quite, but close. SMS have admitted that unlike custom championships, custom grids are a very attainable goal and can be achieved with little to no changes to the engine, as shown with the mod, so why they have never done it themselves is beyond me. The only limitation I experienced was the AI, which while improved since Patch 5.0, still don't handle this type of racing as properly as they should (this might be a different story with 100% AI strength). Passes are rare but when they do happen it is usually due to a blatant speed delta (i.e. LMP1 vs anything else) or under braking (i.e. anything vs GT3). In some cases, I saw cars that should be faster (LMP2) just following slower cars around (GT3), seemingly unwilling to pass because they were on the cliche "train track racing line;" as you could tell with Crew Chief enabled, there is very little yielding done by the car being passed although unlike MP, they don't plow into you and are decently smart enough to know to brake earlier. One change I'd like to make is to add a bit more variation in AI speed, so you don't come across packs of cars that are racing very closely for the entire duration of the race. Overall, the racing experience is very close to what you would get with league racing.

 

^ what the UI looks like and how you select what cars are participating; do note that the liveries chosen are random, and you will find duplicates despite choosing individual liveries.

 

I think that's it? If there is anything you want to question, just leave them below. I will be doing a follow up video with GT3/GT4/LMP3 after the AOR race to see if some prospective changes make any difference.

 

DO NOTE: comparability of this mod and the game depends on which patch is the most current and whether or not you have the correct unlocked bootloader files. Enabling this mod will also break your single player campaign so it is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT that you back up your save files before attempting any modding. Once you are done with the race, reset the custom grid tool and disable all mods to regain normal operation of the game.

[brownninja97]

do any of you guys run with a dedicated sim rig? meaning you have a cockpit that you've built yourself? or a pre-built cockpit like the obutto or one of those steering wheel stands?

 

when i had my G27 i just mounted it to a computer cart that had locks on the casters, but it still moved around like no one's business. couldn't race for more than an hour because it was too bothersome. 

nope, just mount it to a table. 

[chaozbandit]

do any of you guys run with a dedicated sim rig? meaning you have a cockpit that you've built yourself? or a pre-built cockpit like the obutto or one of those steering wheel stands?

 

when i had my G27 i just mounted it to a computer cart that had locks on the casters, but it still moved around like no one's business. couldn't race for more than an hour because it was too bothersome. 

 

I don't have a rig myself due to limited space in my apartment (living away from home for university) so for now I just have a Wheelstand Pro for my G27, secured via dumbells (including my office chair) to inhibit unwanted movement. Usually the pressure of left-foot braking and some rubber stoppers along the wheel is enough to keep the wheel from moving out of place.

 

^ this is an older pic but you can see the Wheelstand Pro; as for the G27, I've since modded it to accept an aftermarket wheel with button plate, and now race with an SLI-PRO.

 

Id love to get an Obutto R3volution some day, but no plans to acquire one until I move into a more permanent address. Oh, and the fact that it's $1200 CAD for just the shell.

[Techicolors]

nope, just mount it to a table. 

 

what about the chair? don't you move around once you stamp the pedals (unless you're light on your feet)? also i imagine that moving the steering wheel and pedals is a bit of a pain, as i had to do that a few times with my G27..

 

I don't have a rig myself due to limited space in my apartment (living away from home for university) so for now I just have a Wheelstand Pro for my G27, secured via dumbells (including my office chair) to inhibit unwanted movement. Usually the pressure of left-foot braking and some rubber stoppers along the wheel is enough to keep the wheel from moving out of place.

 

 

^ this is an older pic but you can see the Wheelstand Pro; as for the G27, I've since modded it to accept an aftermarket wheel with button plate, and now race with an SLI-PRO.

 

Id love to get an Obutto R3volution some day, but no plans to acquire one until I move into a more permanent address. Oh, and the fact that it's $1200 CAD for just the shell.

 

yeah i thought about getting the wheelstand pro since it's pretty compact but sturdy. i dunno about that shifter position, though..

i remember modding the G27 too. swapping the wheel rim, or swapping the brake springs so it's tighter.. 

[chaozbandit]

what about the chair? don't you move around once you stamp the pedals (unless you're light on your feet)? also i imagine that moving the steering wheel and pedals is a bit of a pain, as i had to do that a few times with my G27..

 

 

yeah i thought about getting the wheelstand pro since it's pretty compact but sturdy. i dunno about that shifter position, though..

i remember modding the G27 too. swapping the wheel rim, or swapping the brake springs so it's tighter.. 

 

The thing is pretty sturdily built, but yeah the one downside is the shifter position. I mainly use the paddles from time to time, but since upgrading to a 330mm wheel, the shifter does get a lot closer to your hands than it used to (it's also mounted pretty far back, pretty much in-line with the wheel base for the G27). The one benefit of the Wheelstand rig at least, is that the shifter plate itself is removable so if you have the resources you can easily fab up a new piece if you have the resources, or just find some way to add an L plate (with appropriate strengthening bends) to the existing bracket to bring the shifter closer to you (people have the same issue with the TH8A shifter, so it's a universal problem).

 

Now if you wanted to add a handbrake on the other hand, that's another story.