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AMD's Zen architecture will be late

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source: http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20150910PD202.html
 

AMD's next-generation Zen architecture is expected to arrive in the fourth quarter of 2016 at the earliest, but sources from motherboard players are concerned that the late arrival of the new platform may put AMD in a rather difficult competitive position.
 
Seeing PC demand remaining weak and its server, embedded and tablet product shipments failing to achieve major growth, AMD reported losses of US$360 million for the first half of 2015.
 
The sources believe Zen architecture's late release is due to Globalfoundries' issues with R&D and yield rates for its 14nm FinFET manufacturing process.
 
The Zen architecture is expected to achieve a 40% improvement in performance compared to AMD's existing x86 architecture and will be able to support simultaneous multi-threading (SMT). The new architecture also adopts a new cache subsystem to boost CPU efficiency.


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not only that, but it's known that Zen will 1st make an appearance on the server segment - that means it will arrive on desktop roughly in Q2 2017
oh AMD .. you so silly  ^_^

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well shit that sucks, at least they will get a money boost if that rumor is true 

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meanwhile, Intel moves to 10nm (apparently)

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So, AMD's again, letting Intel dominate the market?

God they're going to need to make an extreme improvement on those chips....

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Yeah....after news of bringing up "investment" which is basically buying out parts of the company and separating the GPU into a different company....I don't think Zen it's ever going to happen.

 

I think AMD is just trying to discretely move as much resources as it can back to ATI to sell that and then have the greatly diminished, asset-less CPU business part just die effectively side stepping the x86 licensing issues of just selling the company outright.

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If they cant make any products for 2016 i dont think there will be any amd in 2017 anymore.Seriously they have no new products to sell on cpu market for years now.

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They might do a paper launch in 2016, but well we will see.

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At this point I personally think AMD should invest all  their money in GPUs. They're CPUs have no future, as it is.

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At this point I personally think AMD should invest all  their money in GPUs. They're CPUs have no future, as it is.

I have to agree. Use GPU market profits to restart the CPU market. But the worst part is that they only have 20-25% of the GPU market... And I don't know why though, compared to Nvidia they win in every price segment except highest end where Nvidia slightly wins (980Ti vs Fury X). :)

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FANTASTIC.

 

No HBM APU till 2017 then....   

 

 

Guess one of those zboxes with a 860m will have to do as a NUC gaming pc.

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Surprise, another negative AMD story from @zMeul. It depends on Samsung and GloFo I'm sure. Not much AMD can do about it, or any other for that matter.

 

Yeah....after news of bringing up "investment" which is basically buying out parts of the company and separating the GPU into a different company....I don't think Zen it's ever going to happen.

 

I think AMD is just trying to discretely move as much resources as it can back to ATI to sell that and then have the greatly diminished, asset-less CPU business part just die effectively side stepping the x86 licensing issues of just selling the company outright.

 

It's just an internal division change. Same company, same CEO. But means they can focus more on their graphics division for next gen consoles, VR and so on. It's a good thing and has nothing to do with selling anything to anyone. There is no such thing as ATI. It's AMD.

 

But there is one thing that is interesting, and that is x86. I wonder when that is going to get scrapped completely in favour of all floating point. Maybe AMD should focus on GPU's with a small integer unit on it instead. They beat everything Intel has on fpoint anyways.

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I have to agree. Use GPU market profits to restart the CPU market. But the worst part is that they only have 20-25% of the GPU market... And I don't know why though, compared to Nvidia they win in every price segment except highest end where Nvidia slightly wins (980Ti vs Fury X). :)

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God damn it.  I bet new GPUs from AMD will be delayed too   :(

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I wonder What bright mind at amd had that idea  :lol:

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I have to agree. Use GPU market profits to restart the CPU market. But the worst part is that they only have 20-25% of the GPU market... And I don't know why though, compared to Nvidia they win in every price segment except highest end where Nvidia slightly wins (980Ti vs Fury X). :)

Because fanboys, and also because Intel has a lot of the GPU share.

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At this point I personally think AMD should invest all  their money in GPUs. They're CPUs have no future, as it is.

 

Coincidentally they just made GPUs a separate division, which is why I said Zen is not gonna happen they're just gonna downsize to GPU business only.

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So by the time it comes to market is going to be 6 years behind Intel, wow AMD you managed to go right back to where you were with the FX line.

They went backwards xD Now its even worse.

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Well, what's an extra few months on six years? They've still at least got one guaranteed sale for me, because hell will have to reach crygenic temperatures before I ever switch to Intel...

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meanwhile, Intel moves to 10nm (apparently)

 

i heard that was delayed they releasing 14nm kabylake or whatever next year then 2017 for cannonlake

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