Need better then ISP Wifi

[N3rot0xin]

Hey forum,

 

Im in the market for a new wifi solution for my home network. As of now, the WiFi is poo. Its not very fast or strong, and drops randomly pretty much whenever it wants. There are two people that use for gaming, me and my friend. He is using a netgear N300 usb adapter, and I'm using a netgear A6200 USB adapter.  What I want to do is disable the WiFi of the ISP router and get a much higher quality router to use in place for at least the WiFi. For that I'm considering http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833146003'>this. I'm open to suggestions on that. Something thats good but also wont break my bank. But, I'm not 100% sure how to actually set up a router-behind-router configuration. I know that you have to enable IP passthru (which you have to root the NVG510 to do), but beyond that I'm not 100% sure of the steps needed. Any help would be appreciated. 

 

Thanks

[Whaler_99]

For that price looks pretty good.

 

Basically, you want to turn this into a Access Point and not use routing or firewall.

 

Easy - when you first get it, plug a computer into a ethernet port. Should get an IP on it's LAN. Then connect to the web management page. Set the LAN IP as a static one on your existing lan. So, if existing lan is 192.168.0.x - and you gateway is .1, set this to like .2, or .254. Just make sure the IP you give it is not being giving out in DHCP in the other unit.

 

Once you have done that, unplug from the ethernet port on the new router, plug in say port one of new into an existing port on the old on (lan) and voila - access point. Because you never actually connect or use the WAN port on the new one, it just sits there doing nothing. Because you have given it a LAN IP on your existing LAN, you are just using the switching functionality, and wireless.

[N3rot0xin]

For that price looks pretty good.

 

Basically, you want to turn this into a Access Point and not use routing or firewall.

 

Easy - when you first get it, plug a computer into a ethernet port. Should get an IP on it's LAN. Then connect to the web management page. Set the LAN IP as a static one on your existing lan. So, if existing lan is 192.168.0.x - and you gateway is .1, set this to like .2, or .254. Just make sure the IP you give it is not being giving out in DHCP in the other unit.

 

Once you have done that, unplug from the ethernet port on the new router, plug in say port one of new into an existing port on the old on (lan) and voila - access point. Because you never actually connect or use the WAN port on the new one, it just sits there doing nothing. Because you have given it a LAN IP on your existing LAN, you are just using the switching functionality, and wireless.

 

And how would port-forwarding work? Would I have to forward ports twice? Or would it be easier to put the New router into "DMZ" mode so i only have to forward once?

[Whaler_99]

Port forwarding would work as normal. New unit is not acting as a router or firewall. Just a switch. So your original router will see a request to forward x packet to y IP - which it will see your PC - as the new unit is just acting as a switch and port forwarding and all that will just work as normal.

 

Only if you plugged the WAN port of the new unit into the LAN port of the old would you need to worry about all this. That is why to give it an IP on the LAN and basically trun it into a dumb, wireless access point.

 

Another option - call your ISP and have them put their supplied router into "bridge" mode - which turns it into a dumb modem - then you can use the new one as you main firewall/router, etc... That's another option, if your ISP will do that.

[Whaler_99]

This explains it in a lot more detail. Oh yes, also, disable DHCP on new unit - you only want one running...

 

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-basics/30338-how-to-convert-a-wireless-router-into-an-access-point

[kirashi]

Hey forum,

 

Im in the market for a new wifi solution for my home network. As of now, the WiFi is poo. Its not very fast or strong, and drops randomly pretty much whenever it wants. There are two people that use for gaming, me and my friend. He is using a netgear N300 usb adapter, and I'm using a netgear A6200 USB adapter.  What I want to do is disable the WiFi of the ISP router and get a much higher quality router to use in place for at least the WiFi. For that I'm considering this. I'm open to suggestions on that. Something thats good but also wont break my bank. But, I'm not 100% sure how to actually set up a router-behind-router configuration. I know that you have to enable IP passthru (which you have to root the NVG510 to do), but beyond that I'm not 100% sure of the steps needed. Any help would be appreciated. 

 

Thanks

Something smells awful. Definitely replace it soon or you'll have to get your house fumigated. :D

 

Seriously though, what @Whaler_99 is giving you directions on is the perfect way to go for optimum speed/performance. As he has stated, you're essentially turning the ISP Modem/Wifi/Router into just a Modem, passing through your OUTSIDE IP address to the WesternDigital MyNet Router, which in turn will be the DHCP unit and assign your INTERNAL IP's. Smart way to outsmart your ISP's system, giving your better performance, and cleaning up that poopy mess. Bad news for the restoration crew; no fumigation's today.

 

Personally, even though it's more money, I'd go with the ASUS RT-AC66U or Netgear R6300 to prepare for Wireless AC, or the ASUS RT-N66U "Black Night" edition if you're staying on Wireless N, mostly because of the reviews of all those units and performance increases should you put any kind of load on the network. Mind you, it could also be the DD-WRT addict hiding inside of me, but that's only if you feel up to the joy of modding your routers :D

[N3rot0xin]

Well on the plus side, its not as difficult to set up router-behind-router. Now I just need to settle on a router for the behind part. I'm not sure how much I want to spend on a router. If I can find a good one for around $100, me and my friend are gunna split it, since it will benefit us both. Any suggestions? I dont care if its not AC, theres not a lot thats cheap that can take full advantage. Plus, our connection is <6Mbps, so theres only so much we can do. :P

[orangecat]

What is your network speed? If you have a slow connection this won't do much for you and if your ISP gave you a router and it doesn't work correctly send it back or go with a different ISP.

[Whaler_99]

Typically Linksys make quality units - so, looking around (as someone always has a linksys on sale) get the mosrt powerful one you cen get for $100...

[N3rot0xin]

What is your network speed? If you have a slow connection this won't do much for you and if your ISP gave you a router and it doesn't work correctly send it back or go with a different ISP.

 

The problem IS that the ISP keeps giving us routers. We've had 4 in a month. The 5th tech out (we've had terrible service), said that they dont even bother checking returned units at the warehouse. They just load trucks up with them. So I dont think i'll be relying on the ISP to provide a good router. 

[Whaler_99]

The problem IS that the ISP keeps giving us routers. We've had 4 in a month. The 5th tech out (we've had terrible service), said that they dont even bother checking returned units at the warehouse. They just load trucks up with them. So I dont think i'll be relying on the ISP to provide a good router. 

 

No, I never do as well.