Xeon E3-1271v3 vs i7 4790?

[byalexandr]

So right now, I have the parts that are in my sig. I am saving up around $1000 by the end of the summer so I can upgrade my GTX 760 to a 980 Ti and my i3 4170 to one of these. My board obviously isn't for overclocking, and I don't plan on overclocking. I do plan on adding a Cooler Master Seidon 120V, just for better temps and less noise (although it is already very quiet). Which one is better? For gaming and workloads? Is the idea to people that Xeons are usually high end worth the price premium (sounds shallow, but I want my rig to be powerful but tiny as well). Thanks!

 

Edit: Would it be better to go with a Xeon 1241v3 instead? How would that compare to a 4690K?

[Agazed]

i7-4790k has better single thread performance, which I find is the best for un-optimized games like Minecraft.

 

The Xeon on the other hand would handle better optimized games at a faster frame-rate.

[ONOTech]

They will be near identical in almost everything. Get whatever is cheapest.

 

1241v3 will be a bit worse in gaming than the 4690K (no more than 3%). It will be a lot better in rendering, number crunching, VMs, etc because of the HT.

 

No point in getting the 4690K anyway if your motherboard is locked. 

 

My vote goes for the 1241v3. I don't see the point of spending extra money for anything else

[byalexandr]

They will be near identical in almost everything. Get whatever is cheapest

But will the ever so slightly lower TDP help any? Plus the Xeon is regarded as being high end, right?

[byalexandr]

i7-4790k has better single thread performance, which I find is the best for un-optimized games like Minecraft.

 

The Xeon on the other hand would handle better optimized games at a faster frame-rate.

According to this: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2334&cmp[]=2226

 

The Xeon has a slightly more powerful per core advantage.

[nicon]

So right now, I have the parts that are in my sig. I am saving up around $1000 by the end of the summer so I can upgrade my GTX 760 to a 980 Ti and my i3 4170 to one of these. My board obviously isn't for overclocking, and I don't plan on overclocking. I do plan on adding a Cooler Master Seidon 120V, just for better temps and less noise (although it is already very quiet). Which one is better? For gaming and workloads? Is the idea to people that Xeons are usually high end worth the price premium (sounds shallow, but I want my rig to be powerful but tiny as well). Thanks!

 

Edit: Would it be better to go with a Xeon 1241v3 instead? How would that compare to a 4690K?

Ok. I have has lots of experience with Xeons in the past and they are amazing. They never crash, never BSOD. They are a dream to work with. YES! GET A XEON! Just make sure that you install your new GPU and install drivers before installing the Xeon. Xeon's don't have integrated GPUs so you might have a problem with video output if your drivers aren't installed. The 1241v3 is plenty for gaming so the 1271v3 is just a waste of money if your only gaming. If your doing content creation, something else, yes the 1271v3 is worth it.

 

Speaking of the cooler.... Get a Noctua NH-U9s, U12s, U14s, much better and quieter than any Seidon. Seidon's are loud, inefficient and overpriced IMO.

 

Xeons are rated for 24/7/365 operation, so if you want to so some server hosting in games or something that requires for you CPU to be stressed 24/7 the Xeon is it. I had dual Xeon e5's in a client's server and he ran them at 100% usage 24/7/365 for 4 years straight and hasn't had a problem yet (x5690s)

[arnavvr]

They will be near identical in almost everything. Get whatever is cheapest.

 

1241v3 will be a bit worse in gaming than the 4690K (no more than 3%). It will be a lot better in rendering, number crunching, VMs, etc because of the HT.

 

No point in getting the 4690K anyway if your motherboard is locked. 

 

My vote goes for the 1241v3. I don't see the point of spending extra money for anything else

 

1231V3 is even cheaper.

[Agazed]

According to this: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2334&cmp[]=2226

 

The Xeon has a slightly more powerful per core advantage.

 

Yes the Xeon is better with multi-core performance.

 

Look at this chart: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

[byalexandr]

Ok. I have has lots of experience with Xeons in the past and they are amazing. They never crash, never BSOD. They are a dream to work with. YES! GET A XEON! Just make sure that you install your new GPU and install drivers before installing the Xeon. Xeon's don't have integrated GPUs so you might have a problem with video output if your drivers aren't installed. The 1241v3 is plenty for gaming so the 1271v3 is just a waste of money if your only gaming. If your doing content creation, something else, yes the 1271v3 is worth it.

 

Speaking of the cooler.... Get a Noctua NH-U9s, U12s, U14s, much better and quieter than any Seidon.

Not a problem, I already have the drivers installed, and I keep them on the latest bleeding edge. I can't fit those gigantic coolers in my case, that's why I wanted an AIO, plus I've had the Seidon 120V and it was a very pleasant experience.

[ONOTech]

But will the ever so slightly lower TDP help any? Plus the Xeon is regarded as being high end, right?

I have no clue how 4W whats would help performance wise, so I'm gonna say no. And yeah, the Xeon is high end. 

 

I would save the money and get the 1241v3 or 1231v3. The performance difference between that an the 1271 is not worthy of $60+

[byalexandr]

1231V3 is even cheaper.

But then it would just be better to get a 4690. I want more performance than that, especially since I do a lot of CAD work, AND gaming.

[byalexandr]

I have no clue how 4W whats would help performance wise, so I'm gonna say no. And yeah, the Xeon is high end. 

 

I would save the money and get the 1241v3 or 1231v3. The performance difference between that an the 1271 is not worthy of $60+

Would it pair well with a 980 Ti?

[ONOTech]

Would it pair well with a 980 Ti?

Yep, you'll be fine. It's pretty much a locked i7

But then it would just be better to get a 4690. I want more performance than that, especially since I do a lot of CAD work, AND gaming.

The 1231 is about a 4590 in terms of gaming. I think that's your best option.

[Dabombinable]

Not a problem, I already have the drivers installed, and I keep them on the latest bleeding edge. I can't fit those gigantic coolers in my case, that's why I wanted an AIO, plus I've had the Seidon 120V and it was a very pleasant experience.

I think the problem most people have with the Seidon 120V (yes I own one) is that if anything is placed in front of or behind the fan at mid to high RPM it is very loud.

[arnavvr]

But then it would just be better to get a 4690. I want more performance than that, especially since I do a lot of CAD work, AND gaming.

 

It's just a clockspeed difference, I would just BCLK and save some money and buy a new PSU because that one seems sketchy.

[byalexandr]

It's just a clockspeed difference, I would just BCLK and save some money and buy a new PSU because that one seems sketchy.

Worked fine for me, almost a year now. It was running a 4.2GHz FX 6300 and a GTX 760 OC'd just fine. I will upgrade the PSU though, so by the end of the summer my build should look like this:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1271 V3 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($323.95 @ SuperBiiz) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120V 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 

Motherboard: ASRock B85M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($67.98 @ Newegg) 

Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($88.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($343.89 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card  ($659.99 @ Amazon) 

Case: Silverstone SG05BB-LITE Mini ITX Desktop Case  ($36.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($63.98 @ Newegg) 

Total: $1620.76

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-31 17:54 EDT-0400

 

I can't BLCK, my board won;t let me for some odd reason. I've already tried everything possible but I couldn't OC my 4170.

[byalexandr]

I think the problem most people have with the Seidon 120V (yes I own one) is that if anything is placed in front of or behind the fan at mid to high RPM it is very loud.

Hmm, that was never a problem for me. I still like it, I might just throw some Noctuas on it if it really bothers me.

[arnavvr]

 

Worked fine for me, almost a year now. It was running a 4.2GHz FX 6300 and a GTX 760 OC'd just fine. I will upgrade the PSU though, so by the end of the summer my build should look like this:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1271 V3 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($323.95 @ SuperBiiz) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120V 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 

Motherboard: ASRock B85M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($67.98 @ Newegg) 

Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($88.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($343.89 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card  ($659.99 @ Amazon) 

Case: Silverstone SG05BB-LITE Mini ITX Desktop Case  ($36.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($63.98 @ Newegg) 

Total: $1620.76

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-31 17:54 EDT-0400

 

I can't BLCK, my board won;t let me for some odd reason. I've already tried everything possible but I couldn't OC my 4170.

 

 

Just get a 4790K since it's the same price as the 1271 V3

[byalexandr]

Just get a 4790K since it's the same price as the 1271 V3

But then I won't be able to OC much. Should I really? 

[arnavvr]

But then I won't be able to OC much. Should I really? 

 

Yes. I think you should get a 1231/1241 and a Z97 board

[Aniallation]

But then I won't be able to OC much. Should I really? 

If it's the same price, 4790K is the better option, even without an OC. Out of the box the Xeon is at 3.6GHz with 4GHz turbo, while the 4790K is 4GHz with 4.4GHz turbo. Hence why the 5K iMac uses a 4790K.

[nicon]

Not a problem, I already have the drivers installed, and I keep them on the latest bleeding edge. I can't fit those gigantic coolers in my case, that's why I wanted an AIO, plus I've had the Seidon 120V and it was a very pleasant experience.

Oh really? Maybe I got a bad unit of the Seidon. You could always get a NH-L12. Sorry for being such a fanboy. And for what the others say, I'd still get a Xeon.

 

Edit: You do cad: Get the e3 1271v3

[Mao_Zedong]

Either get a xeon e3 1231 v3 or save up and get a 4790k. There is no reason to get an xeon e3 besides the 1230/1231. The i7s will also have iGPUs, which are generally nice to have.

[byalexandr]

If it's the same price, 4790K is the better option, even without an OC. Out of the box the Xeon is at 3.6GHz with 4GHz turbo, while the 4790K is 4GHz with 4.4GHz turbo.

Okay, I guess I will go with the 4790K.

[byalexandr]

Either get a xeon e3 1231 v3 or save up and get a 4790k. There is no reason to get an xeon e3 besides the 1230/1231. The i7s will also have iGPUs, which are generally nice to have.

Apparently a 4790K would be a better choice, even if I can't OC much.