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This is the same bundle I went with and I could not be happier, kicked my old i3 rigs ass in terms on gaming, then when you want move to Intel down the road when you can afford a good board and an i5 :)

 

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Hi guys, so I am putting together a budget build for my friend (~$400 USD) and wanted to know which cpu/platform to go with as I don't have a ton of experience at the low end. He plays mostly source games and league but one of the points of this build is to allow him to play newer and more demanding titles.Taking a bit of inspiration from this tek syndicate video (not really a fan of them btw) I planned out 3 builds with the only difference being the CPU and mobo. I don't really know how good each CPU is going to perform while gaming so that's why I'm here to get some advice on the best one.

 

Pentium G3258 Build: Extremely popular budget gaming CPU, my only gripe with it and the thing that spurred me to look at the two other CPU's is that it's a dual core and will struggle with games that need more than two (cough FC4 cough)

 

x4 860K Build: Newer architecture and a quad core, much newer than the fx chip (2014 vs 2011). The problem with this one is that the FM2 socket is a poor overclocker in general and has less upgrade options than AM3+

 

FX 4350 Build: Quad core and a more upgradable and OCable platform. My only real gripe with this one is that the architecture is old and I don't think it's single thread IPC can compete with the G3258 tho admittedly I don't know a ton about these chips. 

 

So LTT community, what do you think would be the best choice for my friend?please try to suppress the intel bias a bit two and at least check out the other two k thx

 

 

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The Pentium route has a better upgrade path. 

 

Even though it is limited by its dual core nature, he will be better off in the future.

 

AMD is generally cheaper though,So if you can't afford intel's higher price tag then screw intel. 

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99% of people will tell you the G3258, I am one of them ;)

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G3258 all the way.

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Go with Fastest IPC+Updatability being a HUGE DEAL

Deal with dual cores for the SMALL smount of time and then grab an i3/i5 afterwards and actually get REAL RAW performance back.

 

You can't upgrade the other two options to have any REAL gains at all when your fed up with lacklustre performance.

 

Intel VS AMD aside....for Gaming,... when you only have one REAL performance part in this OPs comparison list/budget that's feasible, fanboyism isn't a part of that, its fact, don't waste your money by having to save twice for another system when the AMD CPU's don't hold up,..when you can create the system now with a slightly weaker CPU, and have an upgrade path that STOMPS the rest into the ground.

 

You wont be using this specific setup forever, get what has an upgrade path, or..... be prepared to fork out for another whole platform in a short time when your CPU can't keep up in Games with your future GPU's NOT giving any extra performance after the upgrade with an AMD based system.

 

Without knowing your usage, an argument to be made,..maybe AMD is better for you...unless your setting up a encoding/render farm with FX/x4,..why limit yourself by choosing a weaker platform.

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I don't like any of those CPU's you have mentioned.

 

Go Core i3.

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bit of crucial information missing. What GPU will him/you be using?

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As it stands its Intel over AMD in gaming world and that wont change for very long time so go with Pentium.

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I'd go with an i3 and spew the extra $$ to allow for a upgrade path all the way up to a i7-4790k

 

 

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Can you recommend a specific one in my price range? :)

 

It's in in the pcp link.

i3 4160

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Fastest 7770 on LTT . 3rd Fastest Phenom II Quad on LTT

PCSX2 on AMD CPU? http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/412377-pcsx2-emulator-4096x2160-amd-phenom-ii/#entry5550588

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Seriously, i recommend searching through local classifieds or Craigslist for cheaper parts......

 
CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($113.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-S1 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $294.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-22 00:26 EDT-0400
Go to ebay, craigslist, classifieds for a used 7850/7870 as they cost around 50-100. 
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1% will tell you to go with the 860k

im one of them

Why? 3+ years old architecture with minimal upgrade path? Not even once...

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Why? 3+ years old architecture with minimal upgrade path? Not even once...

Let's say games are multi threaded, sure 860K is better.

In single threaded....... :/

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4170 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($99.99 @ Micro Center)

Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: GeIL EVO Veloce Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($48.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.89 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card

Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($32.99 @ Micro Center)

Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $330.84

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-22 00:28 EDT-0400

LanSyndicate Build | i5-6600k | ASRock OC Formula | G.Skill 3600MHz | Samsung 850 Evo | MSI R9-290X 8GB Alphacool Block | Enthoo Pro M | XTR Pro 750w | Custom Loop |

Daily | 5960X | X99 Sabertooth | G.Skill 3000MHz | 750 NVMe | 850 Evo | x2 WD Se 2TB | x2 Seagate 3TB | Sapphire R9-290X 8GB | Enthoo Primo | EVGA 1000G2 | Custom Loop |

Game Box | 4690K | Z97i-Plus | G.Skill 2400MHz | x2 840 Evo | GTX 970 shorty | Corsair 250D modded with H105 | EVGA 650w B2 |

 

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Here in the UK the 4170 i3 is the same cost as the 4130 yet it has more mhz...

 

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i3-4130-lga-1150-haswell-dual-core-34ghz-1150mhz-gpu-34x-ratio-54w-cpu-retail

 

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i3-4170-lga-1150-haswell-dual-core-37ghz-5-gt-s-dmi-1150mhz-gpu-37x-ratio-54w-cpu-retail

AMD Phenom II B55 Quad / unlocked dual core 4.3ghz CB R15 = CB 422
XFX R9 390 8GB MY RIG: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/MVwQsY
Fastest 7770 on LTT . 3rd Fastest Phenom II Quad on LTT

PCSX2 on AMD CPU? http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/412377-pcsx2-emulator-4096x2160-amd-phenom-ii/#entry5550588

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The Intel build have always been stronger

 

and based on the games your buddy plays

 

the Intel build will be a great investment and grab the i3 over the Pentium

 

the AMD 370 is actually a R7 265 or HD7850 GPU

 

look for R9 270X or R9 280

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4170 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($99.99 @ Micro Center)

Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: GeIL EVO Veloce Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($48.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.89 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card

Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($32.99 @ Micro Center)

Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $330.84

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-22 00:28 EDT-0400

The 750ti gets shit on by the 370 tho...

 

Yes but is the IPC higher?

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The 750ti gets shit on by the 370 tho...

 

Yes but is the IPC higher?

Same CPU architecture, the one with more mhz is faster.

AMD Phenom II B55 Quad / unlocked dual core 4.3ghz CB R15 = CB 422
XFX R9 390 8GB MY RIG: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/MVwQsY
Fastest 7770 on LTT . 3rd Fastest Phenom II Quad on LTT

PCSX2 on AMD CPU? http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/412377-pcsx2-emulator-4096x2160-amd-phenom-ii/#entry5550588

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Reasons?

Go with @Bubblewhale build

NEVER GIVE UP. NEVER STOP LEARNING. DONT LET THE PAST HURT YOU. YOU CAN DOOOOO IT

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Should I hold off a bit then with rumors about a recent(ish) realease of a 950?

950 is a 750Ti rebrand

 

nah not a good idea

 

go for at least R9 270 or R9 270X in the used market

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