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I hate to go off topic... but what are the advantages with the Xeon E3 1231 V3... Never have I really heard of it

The Xeon E3 1231 V3 is basically an i7 as in its a quad core with 4 threads which is what you want for rendering the only reason its cheaper than an i7 is because it doesn't have an iGPU and you can't overclock it which could turn out to be an advantage since H97 motherboards tend to be cheaper than Z97.

Now, before all the fan boys start jumping down my throat... let me have a second to explain myself.

 

I am going to school for drafting and am looking to build a computer to run programs such as AutoCAD, Inventor, and Revit.

 

I have been liking the i5; but the more research that I do, the more I am liking the FX-8350.

 

I have heard that the FX is better for rendering due to the greater amount of cores it contains.

 

Also, based on cpubenchmarks.com, it shows that the FX is a better rated CPU.

 

Can anybody give me more information in the difference between these two CPUs and which one I should use for my application?

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My 8350 works far better than a friends 4960K at virtualization and rendering tasks. Don't give a damn what others say, I've watched my stock 8350 out the stock i5 with some pretty basic multitasking, well, tasks. In terms of single threaded use, the 4960 is better, but with multithreaded use, I've seen my 8350 pull ahead marginally.

 

That's just my input though, I heavily encourage you to listen to other users as well. And as always, take every recommendation with a grain of salt, people seem to hate AMD no matter what and always pull the Intel card when both CAN be viable options, like in this situation.

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Alright, there's a time and place for everything. Though for the majority of things the 4690K is much better. The IPC is almost double of the 8350, thus making the extra cores useless.

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Now, before all the fan boys start jumping down my throat... let me have a second to explain myself.

 

I am going to school for drafting and am looking to build a computer to run programs such as AutoCAD, Inventor, and Revit.

 

I have been liking the i5; but the more research that I do, the more I am liking the FX-8350.

 

I have heard that the FX is better for rendering due to the greater amount of cores it contains.

 

Also, based on cpubenchmarks.com, it shows that the FX is a better rated CPU.

 

Can anybody give me more information in the difference between these two CPUs and which one I should use for my application?

This is a tough one. The i5 has stronger cores but the FX has weaker cores but has more of them. I would say it depends on if you ever upgrade the CPU if so get the i5 if not the FX is probably going to do the job.

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Well, for gaming i would go for the i5 everyday even since i got a 8350 myself. For rendering though, its a though question. I dont know how the i5 performes but i know a bit about the 8350. (Done some 3D rendering and normal rendering inside AE and Sony Vegas) The 8350 performs pretty good inside cinema 4d and also the other rendering. And i think it might be a bit better beacuse it has more cores, but i dont think its a huge difference so the i5 is probably a better choice anyways.

 

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If you want abilty to upgrade cpu the i5 is better since that one can be replaced by an i7 without motherboard change. The 8350 is pretty much the top teir cpu on the AM3+ socket.

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Well, for gaming i would go for the i6 everyday even since i got a 8350 myself. For rendering though, its a though question. I dont know how the i5 performes but i know a bit about the 8350. (Done some 3D rendering and normal rendering inside AE and Sony Vegas) The 8350 performs pretty good inside cinema 4d and also the other rendering. And i think it might be a bit better beacuse it has more cores, but i dont think its a huge difference so the i5 is probably a better choice anyways.

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How about the Xeon E3-1231 V3 ? Runs cooler, has multi threading, but costs ~£60 more.

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WHERE CAN I GET ONE AND WHAT SOCKET!?!?!?! Lol, just messing mate, might want to edit that for future readers ;)

lol thanks mate il edit it :)

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So, pretty much what I am getting out of this is:

 

If I am planning on upgrading in the future, get the i5

 

Thanks for all the useful information

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The 8350 is 60-80% the price of the i5 4690k, At tasks like that thye are pretty evenly matched. If you have the money for the i5 without cutting down the rest of the PC it is worth it for the single core performance.

The E3-1226 V3 is pretty much a i7 without the integrated graphics, It would be even better than the 4690k for rendering and such at a similar price.

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I've heard that the benchmark from cpubenchmarks.com isn't very accurate. I use the ones from anandtech.com, as they use many different benchmarking methods.

 

According to these benchmarks, it seems that the FX-8350 is a bit better on multi-threaded workloads, while the 4690k blows it away in single threaded workloads.

 

Have you considered something like Xeon E3-1231 V3? It has 4 cores but is hyperthreaded and fits in a regular LGA 1150 socket, same as the i5, but you'd probably want a H97 motherboard as they can't really be overclocked. Unfortunately, the Xeon isn't benchmarked on anandtech, so I can't prove it in that way.

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When both are overclocked, they are about on par in perfectly multithreaded things like rendering. In programs that make use of only a few cores (most programs don't perfectly utilize all cores, not 100% sure on the ones you listed) the 4690k will destroy the 8350.

If it's one or the other, the 4690k or even a Xeon E3 1231 v3 (essentially a locked i7 with no iGPU) would be my choice.

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Like others are saying the Xeon E3 1231 V3 is probably your best bet, i7 performance for a fraction of the cost and if your not going to use it for gaming at all just get a cheap GPU for the display.

I hate to go off topic... but what are the advantages with the Xeon E3 1231 V3... Never have I really heard of it

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I hate to go off topic... but what are the advantages with the Xeon E3 1231 V3... Never have I really heard of it

The Xeon E3 1231 V3 is basically an i7 as in its a quad core with 4 threads which is what you want for rendering the only reason its cheaper than an i7 is because it doesn't have an iGPU and you can't overclock it which could turn out to be an advantage since H97 motherboards tend to be cheaper than Z97.

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