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1 minute ago, wat3rmelon_man2 said:

This is America, what do you expect, He minimized the window with sensetive info but nothing else

Our doctor's office is using 7, thankfully.

I thought it was Vista but it was just 7 Education or something.

I think they have to use 7 for whatever software they use.

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Just now, FakeKGB said:

Our doctor's office is using 7, thankfully.

I thought it was Vista but it was just 7 Education or something.

I think they have to use 7 for whatever software they use.

Better than my dentist on XP, they prolly need it for their software plus it'd be expensive to upgrade the like 30 machines they have

Is it plugged in? Is it turned on? Are you sure? No, really. 

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21 hours ago, wat3rmelon_man2 said:

Better than my dentist on XP, they prolly need it for their software plus it'd be expensive to upgrade the like 30 machines they have

Tell me about it. Having issues at a hospital, super slow, crashing constantly and about 10 years old. The CPU cooler fan bearings giving out finally prompted a replacement.

 

The 'new' one was about 5 years old and nearly as slow.

 

If you measured the staff time wasted daily due to these POS boxes and put it in dollar terms, a brand new PC with an SSD or hell a 1-2 year old refurb would pay for itself many times over.

 

I was face palming harder than Picard.

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I was watching youtube with my grandma and i told her my computers slow so videos take a while to load, and she told me the reason its slow is because i got viruses from all "those stupid youtube videos i watch"

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46 minutes ago, Zob said:

I was watching youtube with my grandma and i told her my computers slow so videos take a while to load, and she told me the reason its slow is because i got viruses from all "those stupid youtube videos i watch"

Installing  h264ify can help significantly here, especially on  older  hardware.

 

But seriously,  how the heck could one get a virus from Youtube?! It's  just  a  video!

I have no idea what I'm doing and no one can stop me.

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1 hour ago, Schnoz said:

Installing  h264ify can help significantly here, especially on  older  hardware.

 

But seriously,  how the heck could one get a virus from Youtube?! It's  just  a  video!

idek 

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3 hours ago, Schnoz said:

Installing  h264ify can help significantly here, especially on  older  hardware.

 

But seriously,  how the heck could one get a virus from Youtube?! It's  just  a  video!

An ad. I’ve had issues with Facebook trying to infect a system before, or at least one of the a holes they sold ad space to. 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

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3 hours ago, Schnoz said:

Installing  h264ify can help significantly here, especially on  older  hardware.

 

But seriously,  how the heck could one get a virus from Youtube?! It's  just  a  video!

Yeah, you can definitely get viruses from video files. It's probably one of the easier ways to embed exploits compared to other files. Videos are luxuriously fat for a virus or trojan.

 

It would be hard from YouTube literally, since it's usually just streaming, not downloading files, and it's unlikely that YouTube would have any viruses in their content and not know it. But people download YouTube videos sometimes, especially with the aid of browser extensions designed for that purpose, and there's another vector – browser extensions can be malware. The grandmother might have been using "YouTube" to mean online videos generally, like Coke for any cola – maybe she's heard that lots of people have gotten viruses downloading porn videos, which is true.

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What gets me is not novices per se, but people who actually work in IT, or for software companies, but know almost nothing about computers. At one company, a software QA tester didn't know that you could use e-mail on a Mac. She thought Windows was required to do e-mail, and that Macs were relatively crippled and lacked basic functionality, like the ability to send or receive e-mails. This was maybe 2005, when Macs were somewhat more rare than today. She didn't understand how e-mail works, and maybe thought it was application-locked or dependent, like how you needed Word to work with Word docs (until all the open source suites arrived or something).

 

Much more recently, in the IT department of an American nuclear power plant, I encountered people who didn't know what Chrome was... Or Visual Studio. How is that possible? It's possible because at some of these larger corporations, especially quasi-governmental entities like bloated electric utilities, people can end up in IT after transferring from other business units. Maybe they were in the power trading side of things, or maintenance of the power plants, or safety or something. They go to IT for whatever reason, but they don't know anything about computers. They don't love computers or software, or even particularly like the domain. They don't use computers at home, which I think is the biggest tell of all – computers are just not a significant part of their lives or an interest or hobby. That nuclear power plant was awful. They tried to force me to use IE 8 as a browser, in late 2014 or so, long after IE 11 had been released. They used incredibly old Java versions to run their business apps in IE 8 with the Java plugin. Everything was just so insecure and easy to hack, and it was a nuclear power plant. There was just a profound lack of competence and proficiency with computers that fostered certain security risks that simply would not exist if those people just had a baseline of knowledge.

 

It's interesting to think about why people know so little about computers and software. The way people learn about it is obviously broken. It's far too informal and ad hoc, and whatever training or education most people get, from government schools or whatever, isn't adequate. There are some very basic concepts that really everyone should know, but they don't. Businesses especially need to normalize basic IT knowledge the way they might normalize basic accounting or bookkeeping concepts.

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On 3/20/2021 at 9:45 AM, pythonmegapixel said:

I'm not bothered by people asking me for directions. I AM bothered by people who attempt to start a conversation with me with 'small talk' for no apparent reason.

maybe they just find you attractive and want to get to know you better with dating in mind?

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Multiple browsers 😑

 

I notice many of my friends on their laptops and no joke on the taskbar I see Firefox, Vivaldi, Opera, Brave, Edge, Chrome all open at the same time, each with 20+ tabs. I ask why and they give me that look like..."why not?" "who cares" but then they whine at me that the laptop "gets kinda slow". 

 

Their bookmarks are scattered all over the place. So they tell me "Oh check this funny video out on YT, I bookmarked it" and they have to check each browser and then find it. I want to tell them to try and stick to one browser to streamline things but they wont care. On the other hand I am impressed that as non-techies and non-nerds they have discovered browsers like Vivaldi!

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@KatanaDV20 Well... I'm gulty of this as well. For me the reason is that I use different browsers for different purposes, just easier to separate for example university and personal stuff. Though I usually don't have more than two browsers open at the same time. Currently tiping this in Firefox and have an online lecture running in Chrome.

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1 hour ago, Mitko_DSV said:

@KatanaDV20 Well... I'm gulty of this as well. For me the reason is that I use different browsers for different purposes, just easier to separate for example university and personal stuff. Though I usually don't have more than two browsers open at the same time. Currently tiping this in Firefox and have an online lecture running in Chrome.

I typically use different profiles for this. With Chrome it's more straightforward than on Firefox, but I do it on both (Chrome on my laptop because I'm too lazy to import everything over to Firefox, Firefox on my desktop because I had just built it so... clean slate).

It's entirely possible that I misinterpreted/misread your topic and/or question. This happens more often than I care to admit. Apologies in advance.

 

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Guilty of this on my laptop because used to be some flash stuff ran better in Chromium than FireFox.

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Guilty of having multiple browsers because I want to make sure code I write plays nicely with Gecko (Firefox), Blink (Chromium) and WebKit (Safari).

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By the way, my desktop is a docked laptop. Get over it, No seriously, I have an exterrnal monitor, keyboard, mouse, headset, ethernet and cooling fans all connected. Using it feels no different to a desktop, it works for several hours if the power goes out, and disconnecting just a few cables gives me something I can take on the go. There's enough power for all games I play and it even copes with basic (and some not-so-basic) video editing. Give it a go - you might just love it.

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3 hours ago, Mitko_DSV said:

@KatanaDV20 Well... I'm gulty of this as well. For me the reason is that I use different browsers for different purposes, just easier to separate for example university and personal stuff. Though I usually don't have more than two browsers open at the same time. Currently tiping this in Firefox and have an online lecture running in Chrome.

As @CT854said, profiles is the way -  or go to town organizing bookmarks into folders separating university from personal. I use Vivaldi (which uses the Chromium engine)  and I like that it has a sidebar which I can keep open, makes navigating and searching favorites easy. 

 

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2 hours ago, Bitter said:

Guilty of this on my laptop because used to be some flash stuff ran better in Chromium than FireFox.

Oh I see ok, something I haven't considered!

2 hours ago, pythonmegapixel said:

Guilty of having multiple browsers because I want to make sure code I write plays nicely with Gecko (Firefox), Blink (Chromium) and WebKit (Safari).

But see - you have a very good reason and a proper IT/tech reason to want to do this.

 

My friends are just casuals who will open YT in Edge, read a blog in Chrome, browse Reddit in Firefox & shop on Amazon in Vivaldi 😃

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@CT854@KatanaDV20I used to use Chrome only years ago, but had some issues with some websites, so started using Opera, then had issues with it as well, so now I mainly use Firefox on my main PC. There are still some websites that work well only on one browser for me, though that's rare, but I still have them as backup (sometimes one website stops working one one browser and only works on a different one, the next day everything is fine). Also I have Chrome on both my main PC and my laptop I use for university and are synced. Firefox I use on my main PC. That's the reason for the split - don't have to install Firefox on my laptop, and I prefer to use Firefox on my main PC. Yes, I'm making excuses doing something, because I'm too lazy to do it (it will take me a few days to get everything set-up to use only one browser).

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Main laptop: HP EliteBook 8470p│Intel Core i7-3520M 2.9GHz│8GB DDR3 1600MHz Dual-channel│Intel HD4000 Graphics│WD Green 240GB SSD│Win 10 Pro x64│14.1" 1600x900

Secondary laptop: HP EliteBook 8470p│Intel Core i5-3320M 2.6GHz│8GB DDR3 1600MHz Dual-channel│Intel HD4000 Graphics│Kingston 240GB SSD│Win 7 Pro x64│14.1" 1600x900

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Dad's laptop: Acer ????│Intel Core i5-????M ?.?GHz│8GB DDR3 1333MHz Dual-channel│nVidia GeForce ??? 2GB│Kingston A400 120GB SSD│Windows 10 Pro x64│15.6" 1366x768

Grandfather's laptop: Compaq  Presario V6000│AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-56 1.8GHz│2GB DDR2 667MHz│nVidia GeForce Go6150 128MB (died 4 times for now)│Toshiba 160GB 5400rpm│Win Vista Ultimate SP2 & Win 10 Pro x64 Windows 7 Ultimate x64│15.4" 1280x800

"The Old" PC: eMachines eTower 466i│Intel Celeron 466MHz│512MB RAM PC133│nVidia GeForce FX5200 128MB PCI│Seagate Baracuda 40GB 7200rpm│Windows 98SE & Windows XP Pro SP3│IBM P50 14" 1024x768 CRT

"The Floppy" laptop: Clevo 2700C│Intel Pentium III 1.1GHz│512MB PC133 SDRAM│SiS 630 32MB shared│Samsung 40GB│Windows XP Pro SP3│15" 1024x768

"The P4" laptop: HP Pavillion ZD8000│Intel Pentium 4 3.2GHz│2GB DDR2 666MHz Dual-channel│ATi Mobility Radeon X600 256MB│Seagate 100GB│Windows XP Pro SP3│17" 1440x900

 

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I'd wager that for everyone who doesn't spend a large number of hours gaming, the browser probably spends more time open than any other window on their computer. So it makes sense to get it right.

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Thanks for reading all this by the way!

By the way, my desktop is a docked laptop. Get over it, No seriously, I have an exterrnal monitor, keyboard, mouse, headset, ethernet and cooling fans all connected. Using it feels no different to a desktop, it works for several hours if the power goes out, and disconnecting just a few cables gives me something I can take on the go. There's enough power for all games I play and it even copes with basic (and some not-so-basic) video editing. Give it a go - you might just love it.

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My school has two wifi networks, one for students and one for guests. the student one is throttled down to 1mb/sec per computer for all of the student computers on the network which is around 500. One day my laptop disconnected and I accidentally joined the wrong network, I joined the guest instead of the student.

They had the same password

Students aren't supposed to join the guest network that has no throttle, no firewall, and no proxy restrictions at all.

Is it plugged in? Is it turned on? Are you sure? No, really. 

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20 hours ago, KatanaDV20 said:

Multiple browsers 😑

 

I notice many of my friends on their laptops and no joke on the taskbar I see Firefox, Vivaldi, Opera, Brave, Edge, Chrome all open at the same time, each with 20+ tabs. I ask why and they give me that look like..."why not?" "who cares" but then they whine at me that the laptop "gets kinda slow". 

 

Their bookmarks are scattered all over the place. So they tell me "Oh check this funny video out on YT, I bookmarked it" and they have to check each browser and then find it. I want to tell them to try and stick to one browser to streamline things but they wont care. On the other hand I am impressed that as non-techies and non-nerds they have discovered browsers like Vivaldi!

Well I use Edge for my school stuff and Firefox for home stuff, because Edge is faster and Firefox is more secure

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9 hours ago, pythonmegapixel said:

I'd wager that for everyone who doesn't spend a large number of hours gaming, the browser probably spends more time open than any other window on their computer. So it makes sense to get it right.

This a great comment, that is very true. After trying out all the big names I have settled on Vivaldi because its so customizable. I sound like a commercial for it I know but you really can make it your own once you get under the hood. 

 

5 hours ago, wat3rmelon_man2 said:

Well I use Edge for my school stuff and Firefox for home stuff, because Edge is faster and Firefox is more secure

I agree, while I have settled on Vivaldi being my browser of choice I have noticed the sheer speed of Edge, its very very fast. If it had features like Vivaldi does (specially the Sidebar) I would consider jumping to it even because of its speed. 

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I like that Firefox desktop and mobile can run the same plugins, so it's mostly what I use.

 

HTPC runs Chrome because some streaming media wasn't jiving with FF years back and I never switched it to FF after. I don't share any stuff between PCs like logins or browser history.

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5 hours ago, wat3rmelon_man2 said:

Students aren't supposed to join the guest network that has no throttle, no firewall, and no proxy restrictions at all.

thats not nice

2 minutes ago, Bitter said:

I like that Firefox desktop and mobile can run the same plugins, so it's mostly what I use.

I can agree

I use both

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On 3/25/2021 at 12:29 PM, Mitko_DSV said:

@KatanaDV20 Well... I'm gulty of this as well. For me the reason is that I use different browsers for different purposes, just easier to separate for example university and personal stuff. Though I usually don't have more than two browsers open at the same time. Currently tiping this in Firefox and have an online lecture running in Chrome.

 

I moved to the Baltimore at the beginning of the pandemic to live with my sister and brought my Chromebook with me instead of my Windows laptop and guess what? Zoom only launches properly if I use Firefox.

 

So there you go. Firefox for Zoom, regular Chrome for Youtube, docs, & email, and Incognito Mode for browsing with the peace of mind that history and cookies will be automatically deleted when I close the window.

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