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2 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

thats just you not haveing the knowlage.. all Intel portable chips are either PGA or BGA and always have been, its a cheaper pacage to use and there is probably some other reason as well. anyway that should also mean that you could stick a beefier chip in there when you need it because why not :D 

Yea I realised that as well just need to find out what socks it is exactly so I can start looking for a upgrade. Preferably something with a lower wattage even after the thermal compound change it runs a little hot for what I ask from it imo.

 

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20 minutes ago, NLD1st said:

Yea I realised that as well just need to find out what socks it is exactly so I can start looking for a upgrade. Preferably something with a lower wattage even after the thermal compound change it runs a little hot for what I ask from it imo.

 

make some move venilation holes if its hot :P 

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Just now, Bananasplit_00 said:

make some move venilation holes if its hot :P 

Nha the heatsink is just trash / small things already ask a big chunk of performance. Apparently it has socket G2 also named rPGA988B. It's a 2nd gen i5 guess I will look for a cheap 3rd gen i7 if it's out there 

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14 minutes ago, NLD1st said:

Nha the heatsink is just trash / small things already ask a big chunk of performance. Apparently it has socket G2 also named rPGA988B. It's a 2nd gen i5 guess I will look for a cheap 3rd gen i7 if it's out there 

3rd get I7 might fir there but wont neccesairely work with your chipset, id look up the motherboard as well

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53 minutes ago, NLD1st said:

Oh on a different note. I was cleaning my laptop this week also put on new thermal compound on the CPU. 

I was curious so pulled it out of the socket almost pooped my self when I saw it had pins and not LGA lol. I know they bent easy. Thought all Intel I series where LGA. TIL :P

Interesting that it had pins, modern intel laptops are BGA. Must be an older one. 

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Just now, DocSwag said:

Interesting that it had pins, modern intel laptops are BGA. Must be an older one. 

my current laptop has pins

 

yes its a core duo laptop.

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6 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

3rd get I7 might fir there but wont neccesairely work with your chipset, id look up the motherboard as well

Yea read that already will check for sure

Just now, DocSwag said:

Interesting that it had pins, modern intel laptops are PGA. Must be an older one. 

Bought the laptop like almost 5 years ago it has a 2nd gen i5 don't remember the exact model right now

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2 minutes ago, themctipers said:

my current laptop has pins

 

yes its a core duo laptop.

Makeys sense. 

Just now, NLD1st said:

Yea read that already will check for sure

Bought the laptop like almost 5 years ago it has a 2nd gen i5 don't remember the exact model right now

Hm didn't know the sandy bridge still had PGA ones. Interesting. 

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just been down ASDA, got a good'n 

 

Went to the "technology" section to grab a USB hub, asked the lady at the till if they had any USB3 hubs, she responded "i don't know but we do have USB4 hubs"

 

In my curiosity i followed her to this fabled device, and she presented me with a USB2.0 hub with 4 ports, i facepalmed and then explained what USB3 was to no avail. 

 

 

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On 1/16/2013 at 10:30 AM, Tr3vor said:

my aunt who is constantly complaining about her slow Pentium 4 computer, and when people tell her to buy a new one already, she says "no its fine."

My mom does the exact same thing but she says she likes the computer, its slow but she likes it that way

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I've gotten to the point where I want to have laminated note cards/papers physically tied to items in my parents often have problems with (such as the wifi enabled printer) because it has gotten to the point where I'll re explain the same process 2-4 times in one week. As for a specific example, after showing my stepdad how to back up his iPhone, I noticed he had a piece of paper covering the front facing camera. He thought it would stop all NSA spying because they couldn't see him. 

 

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Yesterday I found a hardcore Apple fanboy in the apple discord. :P you'd think it would be more often but..

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9 minutes ago, themctipers said:

Yesterday I found a hardcore Apple fanboy in the apple discord. :P you'd think it would be more often but..

the apple discord was such a disapointment, i was expecting it to be a retard cirklejerk but aparently its not to the extent i imagined it would be

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9 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

the apple discord was such a disapointment, i was expecting it to be a retard cirklejerk but aparently its not to the extent i imagined it would be

True. But pre when I was banned it was a circlejerk for Apple. 

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6 minutes ago, themctipers said:

True. But pre when I was banned it was a circlejerk for Apple. 

If it's a Discord server for Apple discussion, what else is it going to be? 

 

That's exactly the same as me saying /r/pcmasterrace is just a circle jerk for PCs.

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17 hours ago, AUniqueName said:

If it's a Discord server for Apple discussion, what else is it going to be? 

 

That's exactly the same as me saying /r/pcmasterrace is just a circle jerk for PCs.

Isn't it a circle jerk for PC's?

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On 20.5.2017 at 4:13 AM, nekomata said:

Well duh, of course Macs are superior to PCs. That's why they're more expensive. Moa Money = Moa POWA

The Mac pro has not been Updated since 2013. But the price has not lowerde anyhow. So i tried to build an hackintosh with the same specs as the lowest spec 6 cor mac pro apple offers in germany. it costs 3400€. i built an machine with an i7 6800k, 16 gb of ram,  an 1000gb pcie m.2 ssd and an rx580 wich has 1.5 times the performance that the dual d500 gpus in the mac pro offer. So it has the same ammount of ram. 4 times the storage that is by the way faster than the mac pro`s, an 3.4 instead of an 3.5 ghz six core processor, that instead has an higher ipc and is overclockable, and more graphics horsepower for 1400€

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7 hours ago, NunoLava1998 said:

Isn't it a circle jerk for PC's?

Yes, which is my point, he shouldn't have been surprised by the fact it's a circle jerk Apple 

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8 minutes ago, luegnicl said:

The Mac pro has not been Updated since 2013. But the price has not lowerde anyhow. So i tried to build an hackintosh with the same specs as the lowest spec 6 cor mac pro apple offers in germany. it costs 3400€. i built an machine with an i7 6800k, 16 gb of ram,  an 1000gb pcie m.2 ssd and an rx580 wich has 1.5 times the performance that the dual d500 gpus in the mac pro offer. So it has the same ammount of ram. 4 times the storage that is by the way faster than the mac pro`s, an 3.4 instead of an 3.5 ghz six core processor, that instead has an higher ipc and is overclockable, and more graphics horsepower for 1400€

Just a note but you should be using xeons and ecc memory, and professional grade GPUs.

 

Still though, Mac Pro is overpriced. I do think they lowered the price recently, though.

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1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

Just a note but you should be using xeons and ecc memory, and professional grade GPUs.

 

Still though, Mac Pro is overpriced. I do think they lowered the price recently, though.

Xeons are the same as an i7 but with ECC and no overclocking with slightly bins (lower power usage)

 

i don't think you should have ECC in a regular editing workstation. Maybe in a movie production one, sure. But not for probably what he does. 

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Just now, themctipers said:

Xeons are the same as an i7 but with ECC and no overclocking with slightly bins (lower power usage)

 

i don't think you should have ECC in a regular editing workstation. Maybe in a movie production one, sure. But not for probably what he does. 

Still doesn't change that it's not DIRECTLY comparable :P 

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On 5/22/2017 at 0:19 PM, DocSwag said:

Still doesn't change that it's not DIRECTLY comparable :P 

Well, the AM4 platform, depending upon MB manufacturers support ECC memory. (some Gigabyte [AX370] gaming MBs do)

 

Bit less price gets an R7 1700 with 16GB ECC RAM and a Gigabyte AX370 Gaming 5. (Though PcPartPicker.com is confused about the ECC memory)

 

OK, 8 cores not 6 so technically still not DIRECTLY comparable. (rotten nit-pickers)

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20 minutes ago, Norseman4 said:

Well, the AM4 platform, depending upon MB manufacturers support ECC memory. (some Gigabyte AX750 gaming MBs do)

 

Bit less price gets an R7 1700 with 16GB ECC RAM and a Gigabyte AX370 Gaming 5. (Though PcPartPicker.com is confused about the ECC memory)

 

OK, 8 cores not 6 so technically still not DIRECTLY comparable. (rotten nit-pickers)

They updated Ryzen with proper ECC support? I musta missed that :P 

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1 hour ago, DocSwag said:

They updated Ryzen with proper ECC support? I musta missed that :P 

no. wouldent have gone over my head. its planed for some chips im pretty sure but its not here AFAIK

I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally) watch YT and write essays...  nothing, it just sits there collecting dust...

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On 1/16/2013 at 10:53 AM, Fordox said:

A really old man (worst example EVER), was comming to our pc store because he bought a pc that didn't work.

he plugged it in, and nothing worked.

...

he didn't push the power button...

that said, he came back. the screen is still black.

same freaking reason. he did not turn the darn thing on, we had to draw out the symbol of a on/off switch, i walked to the back and laughed reeeaaally hard i allmost cried, 3 times in a row (first for the not working pc, second for the not working monitor and third for the actual drawing) xD

this has really happened :P but the guy was old (75?) and probably has never used an electrical device in his whole life (country side).

that was the least tech savvy person i have ever encountered.

That's hilarious. I've had the same issue with some friends of mine. It amazes me how people can forget the most basic steps like, you know, turning the thing on! 

Yes, it's 2871 as in the year 2871. I traveled all this way, back in time, just to help you. And you thought your mama lied when she said you were special. -_-

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