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Was watching some videos of alienware PCs and they sound like jet engines ( and i thought my PC is loud!  why is that even though it uses "custom water cooling"?

Also, what GPU does the Alenware alpha use ( specifically the $900 i7 flagship and is the GPU different for each of the alpha models)

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bad fans, bad case, bad cable management, mostly stock coolers

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Was watching some videos of alienware PCs and they sound like jet engines ( and i thought my PC is loud!  why is that even though it uses "custom water cooling"?

Also, what GPU does the Alenware alpha use ( specifically the $900 i7 flagship and is the GPU different for each of the alpha models

Because of crappy airflow and bad fans

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1) Was watching some videos of alienware PCs and they sound like jet engines ( and i thought my PC is loud!  why is that even though it uses "custom water cooling"?

 

2) Also, what GPU does the Alenware alpha use ( specifically the $900 i7 flagship and is the GPU different for each of the alpha models)

1) Shitty pumps / shitty fans / either running too fast / shitty fan mounting (no anti-vibration mounts) 

 

2) Check Alienware's site. 

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bad fans, bad case, bad cable management, mostly stock coolers

 

I tried pointing some of that stuff out on the AlienwareArena forum recently to someone in a non-trolling and non-arrogant way and I still got shit thrown at me.

 

No one can be rational to fanboys anymore or they'll freak out.

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The only company that does good by their computers from what I have seen is Digital Storm and OriginPC, but Alienware is all about the lights and probably your components get to 99c inside of those cases due to restricted airflow and $2 fans.

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bad fans, bad airflow, leading to a (usually) always-at-max fan configuration.

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every oem wants to advertise their i7 most of the buyers don't know why their pc sounds so loud 

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because it sound like jet engine it powerful like jet engine, you buy yes.

 

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Well my PC does have a 200m stock fan and 140mm rear stock fan with a Noctua NH-D14 ( Enthoo Pro stock fans). how much better is my cooling than an OEM PC

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Small, cheap fans that have to really ramp up to deliver good airflow.

 

I replaced the crappy 92mm AVC fan in my grandma's computer with the one off my Cooler Master Hyper TX3, and it's quieter.

 

EDIT: And I plan on getting different fans for it.

 

Well my PC does have a 200m stock fan and 140mm rear stock fan with a Noctua NH-D14 ( Enthoo Pro stock fans). how much better is my cooling than an OEM PC

A shit ton.

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Also as for the "Custom water cooling" alienware just uses Asetek cheap units for their computers and normally they use GPU's line the 8990 by Radeon or 760ti's with their top of the line models using Titan Z's.  Which is ridiculous in itself.  $3000 video card and their top model aurora is $4000.  So, they're just bad in general and the best thing you can do is build your own.  It is fun to tinker inside of Alienware computer's though.  I've had a chance to play with an aurora and a tiny-ier one and I gotta say - I am surprised they don't set on fire which is why they're fun to play with xD  I've been directing all my friends who are too scared to build their own comps toward Digital Storm or OriginPC, though - given Dell is a nightmare and all.

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So how does Dell manage to pull off desktops that are £200/£300?

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So how does Dell manage to pull off desktops that are £200/£300?

they buy at wholesale prices?

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So how does Dell manage to pull off desktops that are £200/£300?

 

they buy at wholesale prices?

 

and they buy literal crap at wholesale prices.

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Also as for the "Custom water cooling" alienware just uses Asetek cheap units for their computers and normally they use GPU's line the 8990 by Radeon or 760ti's with their top of the line models using Titan Z's.  Which is ridiculous in itself.  $3000 video card and their top model aurora is $4000.  So, they're just bad in general and the best thing you can do is build your own.  It is fun to tinker inside of Alienware computer's though.  I've had a chance to play with an aurora and a tiny-ier one and I gotta say - I am surprised they don't set on fire which is why they're fun to play with xD  I've been directing all my friends who are too scared to build their own comps toward Digital Storm or OriginPC, though - given Dell is a nightmare and all.

 

and they buy literal crap at wholesale prices.

My Dell begs to differ, then kill you both.

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I tried pointing some of that stuff out on the AlienwareArena forum recently to someone in a non-trolling and non-arrogant way and I still got shit thrown at me.

 

No one can be rational to fanboys anymore or they'll freak out.

 

 

I am loving this guys logic

 

It's the same story with Alienware laptops too.  If you compare spec for spec to it's competitors it will cost you about $300 more for an Alienware. Just the look alone is worth that to me.  I can't stand the generic cheap black plastic models out there.  They feel cheap, they flex, seams seperate, they look cheap, and for that kind of money, looking and feeling cheap is NOT ok.  It's not just all about the hardware.  Would you be okay with a BMW that looks and feels like a KIA and say it's all about the hardware?  I think not.   

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I am loving this guys logic

 

The car comparison is always brought up when arguing with people who adore Alienware blindly, and it's a stupid metaphor, lol.

 

The OP said, later in the thread, that he used to own a small electronics shop (I think that's what he said - the guy's grammar is so poor it's not even funny) and says he built custom PC's all the time and implied that he knew what every custom PC is like and that paying a premium for Alienware over a custom build is worth it. I lol'd

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My Dell begs to differ, then kill you both.

 

the last prebuilt i had experience with by dell was quite a few years ago they have probably improved (which is good)

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The car comparison is always brought up when arguing with people who adore Alienware blindly, and it's a stupid metaphor, lol.

 

The OP said, later in the thread, that he used to own a small electronics shop (I think that's what he said - the guy's grammar is so poor it's not even funny) and says he built custom PC's all the time and implied that he knew what every custom PC is like and that paying a premium for Alienware over a custom build is worth it. I lol'd

haha 300 dollars is nothing man! 

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Alienware is total trash.

The cheapness of the hardware is hilarious.

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