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So, after a long time and a good number of issues I finally have my, now dated but, barely used gaming PC together and functional, I think I just solved the last problem now, but I'd just like to have a bit of a troubleshooting session to be safe.

 

Specs:

 

Mobo: ASUS Crosshair V Formula("BIOS" 1703)

CPU: AMD FX8150(no OC)

GPU: XFX 7970 3GB "Black Edition"(1GhZ stock OC)

RAM: 32GB Corsair Dominator DDR3-1600 (Non-ECC, not OC)

HDD-OS: WD Velociraptor 600GB

HDD-storage1: WDC Black 1TB

HDD-storage2: WDC Black 2TB

 

Now it wasn't until recently I got this thing up and running properly, quite a few problems to get the damn thing to run, BIOS woes, cpu cooler woes etc etc, but now I'm good. So today I think I figured out the last problem which was that the UEFI defaulted to ECC on the RAM, and since the RAM is non-ECC that caused the system to BSOD on launch when I put it at 1600, now it's on 1600 everything is fine. But when I was looking through the UEFI to see if I could find an XMP option or something for the RAM the UEFI would freeze after about 45-60 seconds, which was rather annoying. This wouldn't happen every time, I've been in and out of the UEFI quite a bit today, and so far after turning ECC off it hasn't happened again. I hope that turning ECC mode off has solved it, but I'd like some input on what else might cause the UEFI to freeze.

 

Also does this MoBo even have an XMP setting? I can't seem to find it if it does exist.

 

Thanks.

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AMD boards do not use the XMP (Intel Extreme Memory Profile) but use a similar

called AMP (AMD Memory Profile). ASUS uses DOCP which tries to convert XMP

to a scaled entry for DRAM timing conversions. not 100% but can get you in the

door. it'd be an easier method to change the speed, timings and command rate as

specified by the module manufacturer.

 you get there like this:

 

advanced mode>extreme tweaker>ai overclock tuner>DOCP or scroll down to

manually config the DRAM Timing control

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@Coltaine

 

AMD boards do not use the XMP (Intel Extreme Memory Profile) but use a similar

called AMP (AMD Memory Profile). ASUS uses DOCP which tries to convert XMP

to a scaled entry for DRAM timing conversions. not 100% but can get you in the

door. it'd be an easier method to change the speed, timings and command rate as

specified by the module manufacturer.

 you get there like this:

 

advanced mode>extreme tweaker>ai overclock tuner>DOCP or scroll down to

manually config the DRAM Timing control

 

Ah, that's what I get for not paying attention to PC stuff for a few years :P

 

I set the DRAM to 1600, and went in under the North Bridge settings to disable ECC, things seem to have stabilized, so for now I'm crossing my fingers. Thanks for the answer though, I'll look more into it tomorrow after work.

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If you had ECC on, this would definitely cause lockups as the memory controller is looking a parity chip and cannot find it. Do not enable this setting unless you are using ECC unbuffered DIMM modules.

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As a few have mentioned, having ECC enabled on non-ECC RAM can cause issues.

Another possible cause for the freezing in the UEFI BIOS is incompatible Keyboard and/or mouse.

I too will get a similar freezing issues when tinkering with the EUFI BIOS on my own Crosshair V Formula. I've looked into this issue in the past, and I ran into a thread on the ASUS ROG forum, saying incompatible keyboard/mouse can cause this. I'm using a Logitech G110 and G9x for my system.

...I guess this is why Corsair has the "BIOS" switch on their newer K70 and K95 (and upcoming RGB) keyboards.

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If you had ECC on, this would definitely cause lockups as the memory controller is looking a parity chip and cannot find it. Do not enable this setting unless you are using ECC unbuffered DIMM modules.

 

Yeah, I totally forgot to turn it off as I think it defaults to ECC On, I'm at least sure I didn't turn it on myself.

 

As a few have mentioned, having ECC enabled on non-ECC RAM can cause issues.

Another possible cause for the freezing in the UEFI BIOS is incompatible Keyboard and/or mouse.

I too will get a similar freezing issues when tinkering with the EUFI BIOS on my own Crosshair V Formula. I've looked into this issue in the past, and I ran into a thread on the ASUS ROG forum, saying incompatible keyboard/mouse can cause this. I'm using a Logitech G110 and G9x for my system.

...I guess this is why Corsair has the "BIOS" switch on their newer K70 and K95 (and upcoming RGB) keyboards.

 

Hm, I have a CM QuickFire TK Green and a Logitech G502. But at least for now it seems to be pretty stable, so hopefully it was just the ECC thing I'd forgotten to switch off. I'll tinker with the RAM settings a bit more and see where I end up and how it goes etc, I'm not that comfortable with UEFIs yet, and I can't say that I think they're an actual upgrade to the traditional BIOS.

 

Thanks for the replies.

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