Replacing Old M.2 SSD With A New

[RayNzz]

Hey so I just bought a 1TB SSD to replace my old m.2 which is a Adata SX6000 LNP/Lite, For the new one I bought a Teamgroup MP44L for around 876K IDR is it a good m.2 SSD? I'm on a low budget around 1.2 Million IDR and my country doesn't have that much good prices Especially for tech stuff. Also wanna know whether the SSD will work on my motherboard which is the Asrock A320M HDV-R4.0. The reason I'm replacing my old m.2 is its 5 years old now, The health is at 50% according to crystal disk, My boot times are slow from around 10 Sec to 12 now, sometimes it black screen first then It shows me the windows login screen. I just wanna know whether its a good SSD at that price or I could've bought something better and does it work on my motherboard.

[Dedayog]

1 hour ago, RayNzz said:

Hey so I just bought a 1TB SSD to replace my old m.2 which is a Adata SX6000 LNP/Lite, For the new one I bought a Teamgroup MP44L for around 876K IDR is it a good m.2 SSD? I'm on a low budget around 1.2 Million IDR and my country doesn't have that much good prices Especially for tech stuff. Also wanna know whether the SSD will work on my motherboard which is the Asrock A320M HDV-R4.0. The reason I'm replacing my old m.2 is its 5 years old now, The health is at 50% according to crystal disk, My boot times are slow from around 10 Sec to 12 now, sometimes it black screen first then It shows me the windows login screen. I just wanna know whether its a good SSD at that price or I could've bought something better and does it work on my motherboard.

Yep, decent SSD and it'll work.  They are backward compatible.

 

10-12 second load times aren't that slow, and probably due to adding more startup stuff to Windows/apps.  Nothing to do with the actual SSD performance most likely.

[kokosnh]

I would call it decent entry level ( it's not garbage level ), the price seems reasonable (normal price what it cost in EU), but can't say anything, as I don’t know what better Ssd cost in your country ( good PCIe 4.0 DRAM TLC 1TB SSD cost 75% more here ).

 

ADATA SX6000 lite 512GB is RTS5763DL (4-channel, DRAMless ) + 64l TLC micron/YMTC

We know of 4 version of Teamgroup MP44L 1TB so far:
Phison E21T + 176l TLC Micron 

Phison E27T + 162l TLC Kioxia 

Maxio MAP1602A + 128l TLC YMTC

Maxio MAP1602A + 162l TLC Kioxia 

 

so it’s significantly better then ADATA, but still the same architekture of 4-channel, DRAMless TLC SSD, just 2-3 generation newer. 

 

1 hour ago, RayNzz said:

Asrock A320M HDV-R4.0

It will cap it to PCIe 3.0 x4, so 3500MBps speed, but should work just fine. 
it's not really that fast PCIe 4.0 ssd (5000/4500MBps max) so you will probably never see that limitation. 
And it only have around 69GB of fast pSLC buffer that will be slightly slower, any other write operation will be under that limit. 
 

1 hour ago, RayNzz said:

My boot times are slow from around 10 Sec to 12 now, sometimes it black screen first then It shows me the windows login screen.

that’s just a hibernation or hybrid hibernation, you can't really boot that fast to OS, with full OS reboot. Changing ssd for faster, most of the times, will not have any meaningful impact on this, as SSD read speed is usually not a bottleneck. 

[Dedayog]

5 hours ago, kokosnh said:

I would call it decent entry level ( it's not garbage level ), the price seems reasonable (normal price what it cost in EU), but can't say anything, as I don’t know what better Ssd cost in your country ( good PCIe 4.0 DRAM TLC 1TB SSD cost 75% more here ).

 

ADATA SX6000 lite 512GB is RTS5763DL (4-channel, DRAMless ) + 64l TLC micron/YMTC

We know of 4 version of Teamgroup MP44L 1TB so far:
Phison E21T + 176l TLC Micron 

Phison E27T + 162l TLC Kioxia 

Maxio MAP1602A + 128l TLC YMTC

Maxio MAP1602A + 162l TLC Kioxia 

 

so it’s significantly better then ADATA, but still the same architekture of 4-channel, DRAMless TLC SSD, just 2-3 generation newer. 

 

It will cap it to PCIe 3.0 x4, so 3500MBps speed, but should work just fine. 
it's not really that fast PCIe 4.0 ssd (5000/4500MBps max) so you will probably never see that limitation. 
And it only have around 69GB of fast pSLC buffer that will be slightly slower, any other write operation will be under that limit. 
 

that’s just a hibernation or hybrid hibernation, you can't really boot that fast to OS, with full OS reboot. Changing ssd for faster, most of the times, will not have any meaningful impact on this, as SSD read speed is usually not a bottleneck. 

That was a whole lot to say it's fine, and he won't see any difference.

 

Can you explain what the 4 controller versions mean since you list them as if they are important?

[kokosnh]

1 hour ago, Dedayog said:

Can you explain what the 4 controller versions mean since you list them as if they are important?

Phison E21T + 176l TLC Micron 
a entry level DRAMless TLC pcie 4.0 SSD like Addlink S90 Lite

 

Phison E27T + 162l TLC Kioxia 
top of the DRAMless TLC pcie 4.0 SSD like Corsair MP600 Elite, Seagate Barracuda 530, Teamgroup Cardea A440 Lite, Inland TN470, or MSI Spatium M482. 

 

Maxio MAP1602A + 128l TLC YMTC
a good chinese DRAMless controler, but 128l TLC from YMTC likes to fail.

 

Maxio MAP1602A + 162l TLC Kioxia 

a good chinese DRAMless controller, and fast Kioxia NAND, one of the better DRAMless TLC SSD on PCIe 4.0, but not the top one. 
 

The main point is if you are lucky, you got good Ssd ( it's easy to check the controller, even by the fw version ) if not, do check smart from time to time, as I have seen the 128l TLC YMTC die with little to no write on it. It’s not common, but NAND dying is not great experience, and you want to catch it sooner, than later.

 

and the hidden point, is that you should not be buying Ssd from manufacturers, that are changing the main components of the Ssd, as you don’t know what you are buying.

 

dramless Ssd is just a controller + NAND, and they changed it, without changing the model number, how is that allowed…

[Dedayog]

26 minutes ago, kokosnh said:

dramless Ssd is just a controller + NAND, and they changed it, without changing the model number, how is that allowed…

Never buy a car then, if this bothers you

 

Thanks for providing the info though!

[Poinkachu]

14 hours ago, RayNzz said:

Hey so I just bought a 1TB SSD to replace my old m.2 which is a Adata SX6000 LNP/Lite, For the new one I bought a Teamgroup MP44L for around 876K IDR is it a good m.2 SSD? I'm on a low budget around 1.2 Million IDR and my country doesn't have that much good prices Especially for tech stuff. Also wanna know whether the SSD will work on my motherboard which is the Asrock A320M HDV-R4.0. The reason I'm replacing my old m.2 is its 5 years old now, The health is at 50% according to crystal disk, My boot times are slow from around 10 Sec to 12 now, sometimes it black screen first then It shows me the windows login screen. I just wanna know whether its a good SSD at that price or I could've bought something better and does it work on my motherboard.

Curious, what capacity are you buying ? another 512gb ?

[kokosnh]

2 hours ago, Poinkachu said:

Curious, what capacity are you buying ? another 512gb ?

He wrote it’s 1TB, and that he already bought it. 

[Poinkachu]

7 minutes ago, kokosnh said:

He wrote it’s 1TB, and that he already bought it. 

Oh ok. Somehow I missed that

Thanks man.