Why do I "NEED" to switch to Win11...?

[Eighjan]

If this is already a pinned level topic, please can someone point me to it, as I'd prefer not to wade through hundreds of search results.

I'm currently using Win10 Pro ('cos I can) & ALL I can see that Win11 offers, over Win10, is the inclusion of A.I.; if there's more, where are the hidden details of what it is...?
I do not want or need the level of A.I. that the tech space is (apparently) forcing me to adopt into my PC... I still have the ability to think & reason my way through what I do in my day-to-day life.

So... A.I. "guff" aside, is it time to accept that a PC without it is anathema to the computing space & that those of us that have no (apparent) need for it are destined to go the way of the dinosaurs...?

 

 

[whispous]

Features are not the reason, it's security updates.

 

The need is for updates and hardware support. Once a version of Windows is no longer supported, security holes are no longer patched and remain open and widely known, and targetted.

 

Feature changes are not part of the "need to upgrade" question/topic.

[RONOTHAN##]

There are a few other things it does offer over just AI stuff, though admittedly there isn't too much. The most important one is the scheduler that can handle heterogeneous CPU design like Intel's 12 gen and later designs, as there are some workloads that give weird performance issues on Windows 10 with those chips that work fine on Windows 11. It adds a few extra features for if you're using an HDR display, as well as actually handling HDR decently (not as well as MacOS with a native HDR display, but much better than Windows 10). The settings app is improved, the UI is "improved" depending on who you ask, and a few other small things. 

 

That said, when people say you need to upgrade, it's not the extra features that matter, it's because of security updates. In a years time Windows 11 will still get security updates while Windows 10 won't, and while that won't make a huge deal initially, as more and more security holes are found in Windows 10 that aren't being patched, it will get more and more exploited as time goes on that I wouldn't really recommend running it in the future. 

[Poinkachu]

26 minutes ago, Eighjan said:

If this is already a pinned level topic, please can someone point me to it, as I'd prefer not to wade through hundreds of search results.

I'm currently using Win10 Pro ('cos I can) & ALL I can see that Win11 offers, over Win10, is the inclusion of A.I.; if there's more, where are the hidden details of what it is...?
I do not want or need the level of A.I. that the tech space is (apparently) forcing me to adopt into my PC... I still have the ability to think & reason my way through what I do in my day-to-day life.

So... A.I. "guff" aside, is it time to accept that a PC without it is anathema to the computing space & that those of us that have no (apparent) need for it are destined to go the way of the dinosaurs...?

 

 

My laptop is Win11, since it's what it came with anyway.

Uninstalled copilot, Croutona Cortana, never used Edge. Disabled / uninstalled every AI related stuffs that I could see.

Heard uninstalling Edge could be problematic so I didn't, otherwise... I most likely would.

Hell, deferred automatic feature updates for a year

 

Since it's partly for work and banking and the likes, I pretty much need the security update as 2 people above me stated.

 

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My gaming desktop is still Win10, probably will still be Win10 after EoL, until there's games that I really wanna play that won't run on Win10.

Eventhough IIRC a tech news awhile back insinuate Win11 24H2 is better for my 9800x3D (not sure, didn't really go in deep to that news)

Partly because there's some old softwares in my desktop which installers I've lost and haven't found, and not sure if they'll work on Win 11.

 

Mostly used only for gaming and design stuffs.

Heck, the only website the desktop ever went to in the past 3-4 months is only nexusmods. Sometimes downloaded mods on the laptop then transfer over LAN too.

[Dutch_Master]

After Win-10 EoL and disliking the "features" Win-11 comes with, there's the option to switch to Linux. For day2day tasks like browsing, emailing and stuff, Linux is on par or better with Win-OS. Gaming is fine for the most part, except if game studios really, really hate Linux and their users and basically ban you if you play on Linux. Or if they believe their money-printing machine game is threatened by Linux users who might even remotely be able to circumvent any mechanisms that tie you to their proprietary ways of squeezing even more money from you. So, unless you're an addict to such games, there's no reason you can't switch to Linux.

 

If you choose so.

 

And that's the key: the freedom to choose, outright taken stolen from you  by M$ and Apple.

[Thomas53]

As a diehard Linux user, the help that you need is that from a either a psychiatrist or a psychologist for using Windows in the first place and then going from one security poor to an even more security poor OS.

[PDifolco]

I'll stay on Win10 after October, pretty sure alternative solutions will come for security issues - that are usually way exaggerated by all the people wanting you to buy new stuff

And I still have a dual boot Linux if Win10 really becomes unusable

[Donut417]

49 minutes ago, Eighjan said:

if there's more, where are the hidden details of what it is...?

The only reason to switch is if you care about security updates and feature updates. Because October of this year Windows 10 will no longer be updated unless you pay. 

 

Out side of that if you like the features Widows 11 offers. I personally dont use any of the new features. Hell I barely use Windows at this point, only use it when I want t game, though most of my games can be played on Linux, so...... 

[Eighjan]

48 minutes ago, Thomas53 said:

As a diehard Linux user, the help that you need is that from a either a psychiatrist or a psychologist for using Windows in the first place and then going from one security poor to an even more security poor OS.

I wasn't aware of anything but Windows when I started my PC building journey, 25+ years ago... unless you count BASIC & "Machine Code".
As a neurodivergent/overthinking 60yo, I dunno I have the learning capacity for Linux, either - it'd probably mean paranoia inducing change & that doesn't sound pretty, to me.

The security levels mentioned seem to be more in keeping with business level, or computing for work, environments from where I sit... not Joe Schmo home user who runs OS updates at least once a week.

 

Supplemental:
By way of back story... I started on Win98, then SE... then switched through WinXP, Win7 to Win10.
On that basis I may wait for "Win12" (or w/e they call it) or I may even have quit PC's altogether.
I've never used a mobile phone as a primary computing device, either, so that will be unlikely to be an option.

Edited June 24 by Eighjan

[Poinkachu]

15 minutes ago, Eighjan said:

The security levels mentioned seem to be more in keeping with business level, or computing for work, environments

Add peoples who installs or browse various stuffs often, especially stuffs that are high seas and/or saucy.

Also people who lacks savvyness of PC using hygiene.

 

[Eighjan]

2 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

Add peoples who installs or browse various stuffs often, especially stuffs that are high seas and/or saucy.

Also people who lacks savvyness of PC using hygiene.

 

Fair...

[Donut417]

40 minutes ago, Eighjan said:

Joe Schmo home user who runs OS updates at least once a week.

I once had a Facebook ad try to give me a virus. So it’s not as simple as that. Security is a real issue. 

[Nayr438]

2 hours ago, Eighjan said:

The security levels mentioned seem to be more in keeping with business level, or computing for work, environments from where I sit... not Joe Schmo home user who runs OS updates at least once a week.

People do place bots that just target random ip addresses looking for outdated systems and attempt to exploit known vulnerabilities.
So long as something is on and connected to the internet security should always be a concern.

 

I expect Windows 10 will become a rather large target considering the Windows 11 upgrade requirements will leave a lot of unupgradeable devices out in the wild.

[Thomas53]

It's because of the frequent security fixes that Linux is a more secure platform.

The fixes are for both the OS AND the applications, as in Windows but the fixes come out MUCH quicker and we don't have to rely on a once a week solution. But more updates are actually functional and feature updates than for security purposes.

Also, a large number of Linux users don't let distributor update their system without at least knowing what is being updated and if interested can easily find out why, yes it can be done in Windows but I'd be surprised if many HOME users know what's going on in the background. Corporate users YES, unless your Cloudflare of course.