is 8gb vram enough if raytracing not used?

[BeefyTank77]

any test videos about that for 5060

[Millios]

Can you be a lil more specific?
Like what games and or tasks you are talking about?
Cause that is also a very important factor since many apps and games and will eat up Vram very fast

[Dr. Will0hlep]

The 5060 8GB works fine in most existing games (with some exceptions) at 1080p with RT off... but struggles with RT or at 1440p. I suggest you watch reviews.

 

 

I would never recommend it to anyone, as used GPUs are a better value, and I expect the 5060 8GB to struggle even at 1080p in newer titles very soon.

[jaslion]

As shown above a very good video.

 

Its basically near max vram usage at 1080p in a lot of games so expect that to become an issue where you gotta lower settings sooner rather than later to not have awfull performance. Not due to lack of gpu power but due to lack of memory.

 

Also keep in mind dlss and such ALSO needs memory and its not that much more efficient than just running the native resolution. Using multi frame gen uses a nice chunk extra memory too.

 

So if you can avoid an 8gb card today do do so.

[Timme]

The amount of VRAM doesn't have much to do with ray-tracing; your GPU is responsible for that. 8GB is enough for anything 1080p.

[Poinkachu]

13 minutes ago, Timme said:

The amount of VRAM doesn't have much to do with ray-tracing; your GPU is responsible for that

 

??

[KidKid]

2 hours ago, BeefyTank77 said:

any test videos about that for 5060

For what resolution and how modern of games? My 5600G's iGPU can do 1440p on Rigs of Rods at 55fps (wow!) but remember that that game is from 2005. It probably wouldn't be able to do modern games at even 1080p.

[BeefyTank77]

a friend mine needs to buy and go no other options due to budget. if 8gb cant even handle med/high settings rt off, then the choice will be 9060xt 16gb

not intrested to pay more for a amd card which has low upscaling quality then nvidia, lacks in productivity

and is hardware unboxed is testing with all rt on? they not specifying anything just showing all ultra/ and i dont know about these titles

no need for ultra anyway. so i guess 8gb will be enough

just need to play optimized titles like gta5 and 6

seems like hub cherry pick unoptimized games, who cant even optimize games for modern hardware

[Dr. Will0hlep]

1 hour ago, Timme said:

The amount of VRAM doesn't have much to do with ray-tracing; your GPU is responsible for that.

Okay, this isn't true. Raytracing usually requires more textures to be loaded into VRAM than normal.

 

[jaslion]

2 minutes ago, BeefyTank77 said:

like gta5

Euhhh that game isnt that optimized actually its just old. Compared to launch mid rangr systems from that time can barelt run current gta v anymore due to bloat.

 

Gta 6 is 2 years out at least DO NOT expect that to run well at all on a 5060. 

 

The titles hardwareunboxed took are a common current day games and the settingd were chosen to show that when theres vram this gpu has the power to do the job. But due to lac of it it cant.

 

Keep in mind this is TODAY. It cannot run some games at settings where it will keep 60fps+ on the 8gig one where the 16gb can TODAY. 

 

The 9060xt 16gb is the better choice or well just a last gen offering is totally fair too. The 5060 barely beats a 3060ti if even it can still be beaten by that card that came out in 2020 for a similar price.

[Eigenvektor]

1 hour ago, Timme said:

The amount of VRAM doesn't have much to do with ray-tracing; your GPU is responsible for that. 8GB is enough for anything 1080p.

Raytracing requires more GPU resources, which includes inceased VRAM usage, to store things like BVHs and also intermediate results while testing ray intersections.

[Millios]

4 minutes ago, BeefyTank77 said:

a friend mine needs to buy and go no other options due to budget. if 8gb cant even handle med/high settings rt off, then the choice will be 9060xt 16gb

not intrested to pay more for a amd card which has low upscaling quality then nvidia, lacks in productivity

and is hardware unboxed is testing with all rt on? they not specifying anything just showing all ultra/ and i dont know about these titles

no need for ultra anyway. so i guess 8gb will be enough

just need to play optimized titles like gta5 and 6

seems like hub cherry pick unoptimized games, who cant even optimize games for modern hardware

Sooo again

What tasks? Cause you either give vague statements like "productivity" where the 9060xt actually could do fine at least since the 9000 actually brough a lot to the table in terms of that and some "productivity" apps dont really benefit from Nvidia or AMD

GTA 6 not only is not out and wont be for like 2 years on PC (assuming a PC cause you ask for a GPU) 

GTA with RT at max 1080p the 9060xt seems be to be doing more than fine as well

 

[Millios]

1 hour ago, Timme said:

The amount of VRAM doesn't have much to do with ray-tracing; your GPU is responsible for that. 8GB is enough for anything 1080p.

So the GPU task that requires more resources from the GPU is not affect by how many resources the GPU has

You see where that logic isnt adding up?

For RT you NEED more VRAM

[Dr. Will0hlep]

24 minutes ago, BeefyTank77 said:

and is hardware unboxed is testing with all rt on? they not specifying anything just showing all ultra/ and i dont know about these titles

Tests with RT on are towards the end of the video. (see 12mins onwards)

 

24 minutes ago, BeefyTank77 said:

a friend mine needs to buy and go no other options due to budget. if 8gb cant even handle med/high settings rt off, then the choice will be 9060xt 16gb

not intrested to pay more for a amd card which has low upscaling quality then nvidia, lacks in productivity

Unless the productivity is really important to you, and unless the task is specifically alot worse on AMD, the 9060XT 16GB is just a better card. Yes, FSR is a bit weaker than DLSS, but using a 5060+DLSS is like producing a turd and trying to polish it. Where as a 9060xt 16GB or 5060 Ti 16GB will actually be to produce decent stuff in the first place.

 

(TLDR: 9060XT 16GB + FSR beats 5060 8GB + DLSS any day)

 

Also keep in mind, DLSS and FSR both use up more Vram, so DLSS on a 5060 8GB may not even improve FPS very much in some titles.

[Dr. Will0hlep]

25 minutes ago, BeefyTank77 said:

so i guess 8gb will be enough

I implore you not to buy an 8GB card. It is a complete waste of money and I would not count on it running any new triple A games well. It doesn't even run many existing triple A games well.

[BeefyTank77]

59 minutes ago, Millios said:

Sooo again

What tasks? Cause you either give vague statements like "productivity" where the 9060xt actually could do fine at least since the 9000 actually brough a lot to the table in terms of that and some "productivity" apps dont really benefit from Nvidia or AMD

GTA 6 not only is not out and wont be for like 2 years on PC (assuming a PC cause you ask for a GPU) 

GTA with RT at max 1080p the 9060xt seems be to be doing more than fine as well

 

he gonaa do engineering on AI and ML. and i referered that they require they gpu and dont know wheather amd cards can do those stuff and general video edititng stuff

[BeefyTank77]

1 hour ago, jaslion said:

Euhhh that game isnt that optimized actually its just old. Compared to launch mid rangr systems from that time can barelt run current gta v anymore due to bloat.

 

Gta 6 is 2 years out at least DO NOT expect that to run well at all on a 5060. 

 

The titles hardwareunboxed took are a common current day games and the settingd were chosen to show that when theres vram this gpu has the power to do the job. But due to lac of it it cant.

 

Keep in mind this is TODAY. It cannot run some games at settings where it will keep 60fps+ on the 8gig one where the 16gb can TODAY. 

 

The 9060xt 16gb is the better choice or well just a last gen offering is totally fair too. The 5060 barely beats a 3060ti if even it can still be beaten by that card that came out in 2020 for a similar price.

from me playing modern title 1440p dlss medium cyberpunk, mindseye and some other i played which i forgot. runs well on my 4060, so i was thinking 8 maybe enough and other titles they run may be unoptimized

and also 5060 is fast as 2080ti. and vram of ps5 is 8gb. if these games are releases on ps5 timeline i think they should be enough. i just hate some unoptimized games released during ps5 timeleine cant run properly on pc. 

[Timme]

16 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

Okay, this isn't true. Raytracing usually requires more textures to be loaded into VRAM than normal.

 

More textures? Like, all the textures for the area plus... what?
GPU uses VRAM for a temporary buffer for all the intermediate processing, be it AA, Ray Tracing, scaling, or w/e. That buffer is small to the point of being a non-variable in overall VRAM usage, because it works incrementally on parts of each object. This buffer is allocated in a separate 'region' of VRAM and doesn't count towards the amount of "VRAM in use" you see on your resource monitor.

That means it's constantly moving data in and out of that buffer — reading, processing, writing — using all its compute units at once, while also loading in textures, models, and everything else the game needs to draw the scene. The faster the GPU, the quicker it can get through all of that and push out finished frames.

 

But here’s where the memory bus becomes a problem: a 128-bit bus is just too narrow for all that back-and-forth, especially with the heavier “Ultra” graphics settings. It creates traffic, and that adds delay to the whole rendering process.

 

 

 

[Dr. Will0hlep]

59 minutes ago, BeefyTank77 said:

vram of ps5 is 8gb

No, the PS5 has 16GB of shared memory and it is not limited to only using 8GB for graphics.

1 hour ago, BeefyTank77 said:

he gonaa do engineering on AI and ML. and i referered that they require they gpu and dont know wheather amd cards can do those stuff and general video edititng stuff

If he specifically wants to do AI and ML, then AMD should be avoided. But so should 8GB cards as VRam is even more important in those workloads.

59 minutes ago, BeefyTank77 said:

5060 is fast as 2080ti

Only if you don't run out of Vram on the 5060. The moment you run out of Vram you'll be playing at 10 fps or less, while the 2080ti keeps going.

59 minutes ago, BeefyTank77 said:

from me playing modern title 1440p dlss medium cyberpunk, mindseye and some other i played which i forgot. runs well on my 4060, so i was thinking 8 maybe enough and other titles they run may be unoptimized

Cyberpunk 2077 is now a 5 year old game. Other titles arn't unoptimised, they are new.

[Dr. Will0hlep]

The video I quoted would suggest that your wrong about the amount of VRam ray tracing uses. Even at 1080p it is usually using more than 1GB, and often several.

20 minutes ago, Timme said:

More textures? Like, all the textures for the area plus... what?

Not every game loads entire scenes into Vram. Many games are selective about what they load, and have to load more textures (including reflections, refractions, and other effects) when they have to plot light rays that will hit objects that would not otherwise be loaded.

 

You also have alot of other things to store like Intermediate Calculations, extra geometry, ect.

 

I won't claim to be an expert on this topic, but what I can say is your claim that "The amount of VRAM doesn't have much to do with ray-tracing; your GPU is responsible for that." is directly contradicted by the provided evidence.

[Ha-Satan]

Here's the reality: If you are buying components for a gaming PC in 2025, you need to be factoring in ray tracing performance no matter what. 

 

We've already seen a number of games over the past year that require hardware RT in order to run at all, and that number will likely go up dramatically over the next few years.

 

Back in 2018-2020, when RT was new, it made sense to just say "ehh, I don't care about ray tracing results, I'll just turn it off." But in 2025 that doesn't make sense, because RT is rapidly going to become the baseline for new games moving forward.

 

If you are buying a new GPU/whole PC in 2025, and you want to be able to play games that come out after 2025, the 9060 XT 16GB is the bare minimum GPU you should be buying. 8GB cards are fine for playing current titles, but they will very soon not be fine.

[Dr. Will0hlep]

Just now, Ha-Satan said:

8GB cards are fine for playing current titles

*"mostly fine"

[Ha-Satan]

3 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

*"mostly fine"

I say that because I haven't encountered a game - either in my personal use (since I still have an 8GB GPU), or when looking at benchmarks - that is actually unplayable with 8GB of VRAM. You just need to turn the settings down.

 

That said, I'm obviously not saying that this makes it a smart idea to buy an 8GB GPU in 2025, it's not lol.

[Dr. Will0hlep]

@Ha-Satan I can't react to your message with both a Like and an Agree... so here is a message to express the "Agree".

[xAcid9]

2 hours ago, BeefyTank77 said:

just need to play optimized titles like gta5 and 6

Get a used RX 6600 for like $150 or lower to play GTA5 and come back in 3 years for a new gpu.