When are the Nvidia drivers going to get fixed?

[Glazarus]

I’ve been plagued by flickering screens and been unable to playback video or work in DaVinci Resolve at all without everything freezing, stuttering and bugging out (often accompanied by a windows log mentioning nvlddmkm, but not every time). 
 

For months now, I’ve been waiting for the Nvidia drivers to deal with this and solve it. All while commentators on the issues on YouTube keep talking back and forth about how it’s fixed and then it’s not fixed and now it’s hotfixed but not really and there’s no clear indication on when the issues are actually fixed.

 

The issues seem to relate to some combo of Windows 11 updates, together with the Nvidia updates, together with some relation to the BIOS. But who knows? It seems everyone, including the companies themselves seem to be just shooting in the dark on this issue. 
 

I’ve been holding my Windows 11 updates (24H2) from updating ever since I first encountered this issue by updating to it and the new Nividia drivers back in January. But even reverting back to what’s supposed to work, the issues persist (though not in the same intensity), even if I did clean installs of everything. So even trying to stay away from the recent BS these companies push out by reverting back doesn’t work if you ever touched the new updates.

 

And it seems that many have these issues, but it’s still not talked about enough. I can’t work with my computer anymore and new games are a coin toss if they work or not. The recent “The Alters” seems to work but some parts flickers a lot and after closing down, the OS starts to bug out requiring a restart.

 

So when is all this going to get fixed? And when will people figure out exactly what the damn problem is instead of just guessing?
 

Linus group should definitely make an investigation video into this. It’s for worse than whatever pricing the 5060 has and how bad Nvidia is with the new cards or whatever the trending topic is. If the 40-cards can’t even work anymore due to these drivers, then we need this problem to be more visible and pressure Nvidia to fix it. Who cares about the 50-cards when we have more people with 40-cards and these issues.

[porina]

Not to say there isn't any problem, the thing is for most people in most things it is fine. I use regularly use Resolve on two systems, older and newer. Always latest Nvidia driver, no problems at all with Resolve or games. It sucks if you have the combination of hardware, OS, software, drivers and who knows what else that means you have problems, but it isn't everyone.

[Mark Kaine]

My4070 laptop has really old drivers and zero issues (around version 550, can't check right now). Also my 5070 desktop has 572.83 drivers and little to no issues, ie yeah there are issues but with older drivers it can mostly be "fixed".

[Mark Kaine]

1 hour ago, Glazarus said:

The issues seem to relate to some combo of Windows 11 updates

Unlikely cause newer NV drivers also show massive issues on my very old (22h2 iirc) windows 10 install. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Glazarus said:

And when will people figure out exactly what the damn problem is instead of just guessing?

While this is speculation it seems pretty obvious the culprit is the new "app" in combination with support for newer framegen implementations, cause it all literally started when the new app was released and the old "geforce experience" was "deprecated"...

 

Ie it may never be fixed, see AMD drivers since they sold/deprecated"ATi" ... they never worked right since... ("AMD driver has crashed"... again and again...)

[jaslion]

Go back to 560 or before and its fine. 

 

Make sure to ddu the driver.

 

Its a mess and i have to deal with it a lot with architecture firms atm. Gpo policies deployed to prevent any auto update and all. Its a mess but older drivers are solid still

[xg32]

2 hours ago, Glazarus said:

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not sure if this helps but on my latest rollback from 566.36 it borked and i ddu'd into the newest drivers and everything works perfectly (for now), make sure to ddu, treat before and after 566 as completely different drivers.

[Glazarus]

58 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Go back to 560 or before and its fine. 

 

11 minutes ago, xg32 said:

not sure if this helps but on my latest rollback from 566.36

As I mentioned, reverting back doesn’t help, it only mitigates the worst of it in games and web videos, but Resolve always fail. I can’t even use it for editing audio files.  
 

And I’m always using DDU, it doesn’t matter.

 

1 hour ago, Mark Kaine said:

While this is speculation it seems pretty obvious the culprit is the new "app" in combination with support for newer framegen implementations, cause it all literally started when the new app was released and the old "geforce experience" was "deprecated"...

 

Ie it may never be fixed, see AMD drivers since they sold/deprecated"ATi" ... they never worked right since... ("AMD driver has crashed"... again and again...)

Yes, that’s a theory I also had, but reverting that as well doesn’t help.

 

Since Resolve and Chrome uses hardware acceleration, people have suggested turning that off, but that makes the whole point of using Resolve pointless. However, it does hint at something relating to the errors.

 

What I’ve discovered in games is that the flickering often happen when using in-game menus or cut scenes or things that are more related to graphical elements. It may be that it’s about how such graphics render and that there’s an error on how the CPU, BIOS and GPU handle frames of such elements.
 

That there’s been so much focus on AI enhanced features that it has affected handling of graphical elements to trigger TLD type errors or similar, causing the GPU to lag out.

 

The main problem is however that Nvidia, Microsoft and motherboard manufacturers seem to not speak to each other to solve this. They need to prioritize this error since they’re about to tank Nvidia as the reliable choice for professionals. Game devs and people working in that industry rely on Nvidia as the stable work horse for their work, so it’s vital that they gain back the trust here. If I didn’t have a MacBook as a backup for working with Resolve, I would have had to buy an entirely new workstation because I cannot spend months trying to figure something out that Nvidia and Microsoft doesn’t seem to prioritize at all. 
 

I even had my processor replaced to avoid the Intel problems as a source for these issues and the problems just carried over into that change.
 

[YoungBlade]

If you're looking for stability in productivity apps, have you tried switching to the Studio drivers? Those are supposed to be more stable, and while they lack optimizations for newer games, so tend to come with a minor performance hit, you can still game with them.

[Mark Kaine]

2 hours ago, Glazarus said:

As I mentioned, reverting back doesn’t help, it only mitigates the worst of it in games and web videos, but Resolve always fail.

Yeah, but tbf they said before 560,which is also my experience as said (it's a custom Asus driver even and the GPU works great!)... Gotta try until you find the right one as dumb as it sounds (so around 500 to 556 maybe) I agree with the rest of your post but as for now we gotta use those workarounds, also as suggested studio drivers in general should be more stable.

 

 

Otherwise there may be an actual issue with your hw or sw,  because afaik resolve works - except some hw/sw combinations apparently.