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27 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

Now that is a real problem. You should Return the CPU for a refund.

Thanks, but I got it fixed by a suggestion from google. Alls I had to do was go into msconfig and uncheck "Number of processors" option and reboot. Now it's showing all 12 cores, and my temps during multicore cinebench 10 minute test went from almost 90c to 75c and my score went from 620- 1093 (and this is on balanced power plan, didn't realize I didn't have performance plan selected. However, this means my cpu is now working correctly and within expected limits. I should see loads of difference now I would assume in both temps and efficiency. Thanks for your time! )

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Ok so to start, I just upgraded from a Ryzen 5 3600 to a Ryzen 9 5900X. So far I am regretting my decision as not only am I not really seeing much gains in games, but I am also having extremley weird behavior from my 5900X, and can't seem to keep it cool. Often when barley doing anything on my pc, even sometimes just idling, my boost will jump to the maximum 4900 mhz as monitored by Ryzen Master. When this happens my cpu temp shoots to 70-80 degrees c. When it's not acting like a methed out nut job on boost speeds, my cpu temp stays at a stable 38-41c which is good. I am using the Thermalrightassassin dual fan heat sync with TM9 thermal paste. (I origionally used the TF7 that came with the heat sync even though I got it forever ago for my old 3600, I didn't realize it was such a good paste till after reading online and figured it was even better than the TM70 I was planning to use), but then after installing the 5900X with the TM7 I was having really bad temp spikes on idle, so assuming I pasted bad, I ordered TM9 from amazon with prime and 2 days later repasted with TM9 and ensured I did it 100%. I even got the heat sync on the screw holes the first try meaning I didn't have to wiggle and pry it up potentially causing air bubbles which I suspected was my temp issue to begin with. Now my idle temps are extremley stable when the cpu isn't randomly boosting to max ghz when it's clearly not neccessarry. Anyone got any ideas on why my cpu jumps from nothing to max ghz when just doing normal browsing, or sometimes nothing at all? Anyone got any safe tests I can run to determing cpu health? (I have a 3 year warranty as I bought brand new directly from AMD website, so I suppose if it's a tad risky that's fine). Thanks!

 

EDIT: Forgot to add some additional context that may be useful. My 3600 was running on my X570 gaming edge wifi plus's stock bios version that came with the motherboard. This bios version did not support the 5900X, so I updated bios to a version that supports the 5900X with a USB with my 3600 still in the pc. No issues there. Then once I did change the CPU's to the new 5900X, I downloaded the latest chipset drivers, HOWEVER, I did not uninstall the old ones. So thinking it may be a driver conflicting issue, I just used Revo uninstaller to uninstall any AMD driver, dependency, and old related files using the moderate scan option. I then rebooted to get the default windows drivers to install, and proceeded to reinstall the latest 5900X chipset drivers. So far I am not sure if this made a difference or not, but it does seem to be running more stable on boost. I really want to run a cpu benchmark, but don't know a relatively safe and reliable option to do so. 

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Are you actually seeing any issues here because of the temps and boost clocks?

Is it reaching 95C+ in games or other heavy workloads?

 

If no, I'd say it was likely that there is no hardware issue. However, to be sure you could run a three minute stress test with a free trial of some passmark software:

 https://www.passmark.com/products/burnintest/index.php?srsltid=AfmBOooMlv4pCFPgXVEQaBm-BqXf2vKDlu0cbW1OeanwzBoc6QAXbTTM

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23 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

Are you actually seeing any issues here because of the temps and boost clocks?

Is it reaching 95C+ in games or other heavy workloads?

 

If no, I'd say it was likely that there is no hardware issue. However, to be sure you could run a three minute stress test with a free trial of some passmark software:

 https://www.passmark.com/products/burnintest/index.php?srsltid=AfmBOooMlv4pCFPgXVEQaBm-BqXf2vKDlu0cbW1OeanwzBoc6QAXbTTM

No I am not reaching anything above 80c gaming. However, I just did a cinebench 2024 10 minute multicore test and only got 626 points. That's 100 more than my ryzen 5 3600 scored (I tested before changing it out), however looking at other peoples scores this is SIGNIFICANTLY lower than it should be. I am using cinebench 2024 1.0 and was reaching temps of 89c by the end of the test. In the recent tests at the bottom from other people, someone with a 5800x  scored 824! 

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32 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

Are you actually seeing any issues here because of the temps and boost clocks?

Is it reaching 95C+ in games or other heavy workloads?

 

If no, I'd say it was likely that there is no hardware issue. However, to be sure you could run a three minute stress test with a free trial of some passmark software:

 https://www.passmark.com/products/burnintest/index.php?srsltid=AfmBOooMlv4pCFPgXVEQaBm-BqXf2vKDlu0cbW1OeanwzBoc6QAXbTTM

So I figured out the problem (I knew something was right!). My cpu is a 12 core 24 thread cpu, but task manager is only showing 6 cores in use. Same with Ryzen master. I have no clue what the soloution is, but at least I know the problem! 

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7 minutes ago, msilvers73 said:

So I figured out the problem (I knew something was right!). My cpu is a 12 core 24 thread cpu, but task manager is only showing 6 cores in use. Same with Ryzen master. I have no clue what the soloution is, but at least I know the problem! 

Now that is a real problem. You should Return the CPU for a refund.

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Trust but Verify! I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need. Expand this signature for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components.

 

Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticably improve performance past 240mm.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

Fun Facts

1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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27 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

Now that is a real problem. You should Return the CPU for a refund.

Thanks, but I got it fixed by a suggestion from google. Alls I had to do was go into msconfig and uncheck "Number of processors" option and reboot. Now it's showing all 12 cores, and my temps during multicore cinebench 10 minute test went from almost 90c to 75c and my score went from 620- 1093 (and this is on balanced power plan, didn't realize I didn't have performance plan selected. However, this means my cpu is now working correctly and within expected limits. I should see loads of difference now I would assume in both temps and efficiency. Thanks for your time! )

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