Non-ultrawide OLED monitors over 32 inches don't exist anymore?

[Sotanaht]

I have an FO48U from over 2 years ago and love it.  It's 48 inches, and once you get used to it 48 inches is absolutely PERFECT for immersive gaming (maybe not for competitive) at just over arms reach distance (3-4 feet?)

 

Anyway, OLEDs don't last forever and I haven't been able to find a single one for sale.  Well OK there's 1, it's $9333 and 65 inches so I'm just going to pretend that doesn't exist.  I absolutely despise ultrawide, even more so for apparently killing the full screen market and trying to steal half my vertical screen.

[Hinjima]

5 minutes ago, Sotanaht said:

I have an FO48U from over 2 years ago and love it.  It's 48 inches, and once you get used to it 48 inches is absolutely PERFECT

They do exist but they might be under TV.

I know LG has a lot of 'OLED Gaming TV's with Gsync - Freesync and 144hz refreshrate.

ASUS has the PG48UQ, its quite expensive though.

[xg32]

23 minutes ago, Sotanaht said:

I have an FO48U from over 2 years ago and love it.  It's 48 inches, and once you get used to it 48 inches is absolutely PERFECT for immersive gaming (maybe not for competitive) at just over arms reach distance (3-4 feet?)

 

Anyway, OLEDs don't last forever and I haven't been able to find a single one for sale.  Well OK there's 1, it's $9333 and 65 inches so I'm just going to pretend that doesn't exist.  I absolutely despise ultrawide, even more so for apparently killing the full screen market and trying to steal half my vertical screen.

theres a vacuum btwn 32-42inches but 42 is available in tv form

[Sotanaht]

29 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

They do exist but they might be under TV.

I know LG has a lot of 'OLED Gaming TV's with Gsync - Freesync and 144hz refreshrate.

ASUS has the PG48UQ, its quite expensive though.

If by "expensive" you mean "not for sale" then yeah, the PG48UQ is quite expensive

 

It's not available anywhere and there are no links to buy it on the Asus website.  PCPartPicker has it listed, but no price and no Merchants.  There are a bunch of large OLEDs with a similar story.  This is what I'm talking about they USED to exist but they've ALL been discontinued in the last 2 years.  The only exception is the LG 65EP5G-B but like I said at $9333 it may as well not exist.

[Hinjima]

5 minutes ago, Sotanaht said:

If by "expensive" you mean "not for sale" then yeah, the PG48UQ is quite expensive

 

It's not available anywhere and there are no links to buy it on the Asus website.  PCPartPicker has it listed, but no price and no Merchants.  There are a bunch of large OLEDs with a similar story.  This is what I'm talking about they USED to exist but they've ALL been discontinued.  The only exception is the LG 65EP5G-B but like I said at $9333 it may as well not exist.

There are a few places here in Norway where I can find the PG48UQ. But the supply is not a lot, I will admit.

 

I see a lot of LG OLED 144hz Gsync/Freesync TV's in the ''48-''65 size at quite resonable prices.

1400-2200 USD range.

Again, here in Norway.

 

But you are correct, the market is rather small compared to Ultrawides or 32'' 4k OLED monitors.

[Sotanaht]

26 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

There are a few places here in Norway where I can find the PG48UQ. But the supply is not a lot, I will admit.

 

I see a lot of LG OLED 144hz Gsync/Freesync TV's in the ''48-''65 size at quite resonable prices.

1400-2200 USD range.

Again, here in Norway.

 

But you are correct, the market is rather small compared to Ultrawides or 32'' 4k OLED monitors.

I only know from the perspective of the US (and before anyone mentions it, I've been looking at this since middle of last year so current events aren't the issue), but the supply is 0.  For a large OLED $1400 isn't that unreasonable even.  It's a bit more than I want to pay, but if mine were to completely break down I'd probably do it.

I've heard nothing but bad about TVs and that you should basically never get one for PC gaming.  Maybe that's wrong?  The only specific reason I actually remember is about latency issues.

 

I have seen some used/refurbished models, including the same FO48U I have, but given OLED's short lifespan due to burn in I don't think I want to consider that route either.

[BitGhost]

If you do find a TV that fits the spec the hard part is going to be getting a dummy version. Get a terrible old LCD before a nice looking "smart" TV that you need to fight with constantly. 

[GuiltySpark_]

3 hours ago, Sotanaht said:

I have an FO48U from over 2 years ago and love it.  It's 48 inches, and once you get used to it 48 inches is absolutely PERFECT for immersive gaming (maybe not for competitive) at just over arms reach distance (3-4 feet?)

 

Anyway, OLEDs don't last forever and I haven't been able to find a single one for sale.  Well OK there's 1, it's $9333 and 65 inches so I'm just going to pretend that doesn't exist.  I absolutely despise ultrawide, even more so for apparently killing the full screen market and trying to steal half my vertical screen.

This market is cornered by LG's TV's. They're designed as if they know PC users are using them as monitors and they basically are. I've been using a 42" C2 for over two years now and talk with a handful of C3 and C4 users daily. 

 

These things are absolutely fantastic.

[circeseye]

1 hour ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

This market is cornered by LG's TV's. They're designed as if they know PC users are using them as monitors and they basically are. I've been using a 42" C2 for over two years now and talk with a handful of C3 and C4 users daily. 

 

These things are absolutely fantastic.

agree i have a 48" c3 and use a 77" c4 on my gaming comp. awesome tvs

[Doobeedoo]

Those are more TV sized displays most don't want on desk where you sit in front of it. Becomes way too huge to look around, pixel density is not great and in general as you see not many good options. I have fairly deep desk and for my 32" it's perfect really. Having something much larger would be insane to me, not sure how you keep it as far, my monitor is like arms distance. But eve putting such size a lot far away makes it feel like smaller display anyway.

Not sure what you mean UW killing fullscreen market and they don't steal vertical view but opposite they extend horizontal though.

Anyway there are some options for larger formats but limited specs to LCD if you want.

[Sotanaht]

9 hours ago, Doobeedoo said:

Those are more TV sized displays most don't want on desk where you sit in front of it. Becomes way too huge to look around, pixel density is not great and in general as you see not many good options. I have fairly deep desk and for my 32" it's perfect really. Having something much larger would be insane to me, not sure how you keep it as far, my monitor is like arms distance. But eve putting such size a lot far away makes it feel like smaller display anyway.

Not sure what you mean UW killing fullscreen market and they don't steal vertical view but opposite they extend horizontal though.

Anyway there are some options for larger formats but limited specs to LCD if you want.

In answer to your question about how I keep it as far, this is my setup.  The desk is 48x24 inches, so with my head all the way back to the chair's headrest it's between 3 and 4 feet.  Just outside of arms reach I have to lean forward to hit the power buttons.

 

Sure, I wouldn't recommend it for competitive gaming.  As you know competitive and immersive gaming have pretty much opposite wants; one wants framerate while the other wants fidelity.  In this case one wants to minimize eye and head movement and see everything at once, while the other wants the game to be everywhere they look.

 

And Ultrawide=Ultrashort.  While the exact implementation varies from game to game, it's not uncommon to truncate the vertical instead of expanding the horizontal, and either way a full screen display would simply be better because it could expand both.  Vertical viewport is just as important as horizontal

[Doobeedoo]

54 minutes ago, Sotanaht said:

In answer to your question about how I keep it as far, this is my setup.  The desk is 48x24 inches, so with my head all the way back to the chair's headrest it's between 3 and 4 feet.  Just outside of arms reach I have to lean forward to hit the power buttons.

 

Sure, I wouldn't recommend it for competitive gaming.  As you know competitive and immersive gaming have pretty much opposite wants; one wants framerate while the other wants fidelity.  In this case one wants to minimize eye and head movement and see everything at once, while the other wants the game to be everywhere they look.

 

And Ultrawide=Ultrashort.  While the exact implementation varies from game to game, it's not uncommon to truncate the vertical instead of expanding the horizontal, and either way a full screen display would simply be better because it could expand both.  Vertical viewport is just as important as horizontal

Right ok, it's unconventional setup most don't go. Reasons why there are no many large monitors in general, people sit on desk with them in arms range. Yeah that's a very small desk so need wall mounts. Would still feel large to me in general even when watching a movie or whatever. Though I want both decently large and competitive setup in one so. That chair doesn't look it can tuck under the chair close enough though, hopefully hands don't hang in air. 

But also kinda looks like you could get similar feel with smaller monitor that is closer and appears as large as those further away. But would maybe need a new chair or desk if needed so desk can be close enough to you, seems far to me I'm slim so. Mainly also as there are way more options with way better specs too.

 

There are fairly large UW lately announced. Like 45" that is effectively like 36" 16:9 height wise, just wider. The UW are not narrowing vertical view, they're expanding horizontal view or FoV though, you do see more than regular wide. There's no "full screen display" really, you can view 16:9 on 21:9 fine but vice-versa sucks. Most literally like it for immersion primarily. I don't like it due to not being competitive oriented, most not being 4K or odd size, not liking curve and all. 

There are no super sized UW as TVs are oddly not UW even though most content shown is. 

 

I like the cat.

[circeseye]

21 hours ago, Sotanaht said:

In answer to your question about how I keep it as far, this is my setup.  The desk is 48x24 inches, so with my head all the way back to the chair's headrest it's between 3 and 4 feet.  Just outside of arms reach I have to lean forward to hit the power buttons.

 

Sure, I wouldn't recommend it for competitive gaming.  As you know competitive and immersive gaming have pretty much opposite wants; one wants framerate while the other wants fidelity.  In this case one wants to minimize eye and head movement and see everything at once, while the other wants the game to be everywhere they look.

 

And Ultrawide=Ultrashort.  While the exact implementation varies from game to game, it's not uncommon to truncate the vertical instead of expanding the horizontal, and either way a full screen display would simply be better because it could expand both.  Vertical viewport is just as important as horizontal

nice lol. i also game in a recliner. only i built a mouse pad base on the arm. and keyboard on my lap. and have an end table on left side with a arm for mic and headset if i need to use it 

[Sotanaht]

2 minutes ago, circeseye said:

nice lol. i also game in a recliner. only i built a mouse pad base on the arm. and keyboard on my lap.

I tried a lap desk but it didn't work out, however the support pillows now work as my mouse-arm rest so it wasn't a total waste.  I'm not skilled at woodworking or similar crafts so building something on my own isn't something I would consider.  Also I have to reserve some lap space for the cats

 

Anyway this isn't a thread about my setup (I have a post in the setup thread), I just posted that to show relative view distance at which I enjoy the ~50 inch monitors that are now impossible to come by.