Raptor Lake (13th/14th gen Intel) Microcode 0x12F

[Kisai]

Hello,

 

I'm not asking for help. I'd like to survey who updated their 13th gen/14th gen microcode and when, and if anyone is still experiencing any of these problems:

• Chromium Embedded Framework (CEF) crashes in Steam, Epic Game Launcher, various game launchers, Spotify, Discord, Slack, and RPG Maker MV or RPG Maker MZ, and ANY program that tries to "check for updates"
• Video playback crashes in Chrome, Firefox regardless of which GPU it runs on
• Video playback/scrubbing crashes in MPC-HC, OBS Studio, Davinci Resolve
• Krita failing to open
• UE4 and UE5 game engine crashes without getting to the title screen
• 7zip unpacking errors (eg nvidia driver installer), basically anything utilizing zlib (eg decoding PNG files) rapidly seems to trigger a memory access violation.
• Occasional unexplained BSOD's or sequences of crashes in Windows Event Viewer

All of the above I experienced in October of last year before the 14700K was RMA'd to Intel after updating it to 0x12B and not experiencing any improvement in stability. When I got the new CPU back everything was fine, until about three weeks ago when I started noticing chrome and firefox crashing tabs playing video again. This started creeping into other programs again. I was willing to dismiss the video playback crashes as "Geforce driver issues" but then the 7zip CRC error happened and I knew this was starting to happen again. I have had XMP turned off this entire time so it is definitely not that. Everything was stock save for selecting PWM fans in the fan monitoring. 

 

So the one thing I haven't seen anymore mention to date, is how long it takes for the CPU degradation to happen. I happened to guess (based on the April original purchase of the first CPU, and it failing in September) that if it starts failing again it would be about 6 months. So it is 6 months from then, and yes, it does seem to be happening again.

That Uptime is about 207 days.

 

If others are on 0x12B and have had no issues, and updated to 0x12F I would expect to continue having no issues. But I feel that my CPU is probably degrading and I should RMA it again. But before I do I want to document all the ways I saw it failing so other people recognize the CPU degrading since Intel only extended the warranty for 2 years (maximum 5) for this issue, if you don't replace the CPU before the warranty expires then you're SOL.

 

[Kilrah]

Haven't updated yet (looks like it was only just posted for my board) but also haven't had any issues with my 13900K since I bought it in April 2013 2023. Will update in a bit. 

 

In your case I'd test/try swapping RAM cause with these symptoms it could be it that's faulty rather than the CPU. 

[leclod]

(For my board it's a beta update yet, so I pass)

Edited May 21 by leclod

[avidgamer121]

3 hours ago, Kisai said:

so now we have AI in BIOS as well? for god's sake, just no. I don't think those stats really matter or make any sense. I think highend motherboard bios these days are require kinda windows xp baseline hardware to run well, i can't imagine things to be bloated upto this point. Kinda off topic but i had to say.

[Kilrah]

4 minutes ago, avidgamer121 said:

so now we have AI in BIOS as well?

Asus has called their tweaking "AI" for like 20 years at least...

 

 

Updated, still works fine so far as expected...

[avidgamer121]

3 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

Asus has called their tweaking "AI" for like 20 years at least...

that is ok but i think that specific info is totally unnecessary

[OhioYJ]

I'm on 0x12F on my 13900K no issues (going to go find some wood to knock on now). Of course I haven't had any issues out of mine from the beginning. 

[Haswellx86]

4 hours ago, Kilrah said:

13900K since I bought it in April 2013

okay old guy

 

2013 was 12 years ago btw. Can anyone believe that?

[Mumintroll]

Reading what Intel writes about the 0x12F release notes is that pc running for several days with only low workloads, very little activity, could still get degradation symptoms with 0x12B microcode.

 

https://community.intel.com/t5/Mobile-and-Desktop-Processors/Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-Vmin-Shift-Instabilty-Update-New/m-p/1686948

 

Did you leave your pc at mostly idle and on for several days?

[Mumintroll]

By the way here's an old thread at Reddit with some notes on degradation symptoms, if you want to edit and include some to your list.

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/1ekiwku/signs_to_be_aware_if_your_13th14th_gen_cpu_is/

 

[Ebony Falcon]

Just control your own voltages

no need to let the cpu run wild and leave the life of ur chip in the hands of the board manufactures