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I think I'm done with Nvidia, I need advice on what to buy instead of 5080 FE at MSRP, to game at 4K.

I built a PC after planning for over a year, but without a GPU ((I have a 9800X3D)). I was interested in 5080, but the launch was disappointing: minimal performance uplift, still just 16GB VRAM at a high price.
 

Despite this, I was still planning to buy the 5080 FE next month. What finally turned me off was the recent situation with the RTX 5060, the shady stuff around Gamers Nexus, and how Nvidia continues to treat both customers and reviewers. I tried to ignore it, but they keep proving they’re the worst company to support.
 

I also considered the 7900 XTX and was hoping AMD would follow it up with something better. But they pulled out of the high-end 4K GPU race (9070 XT is focused on 1440p). So I was like it's AMD's loss not releasing a 4K GPU and decided 5080 FE.
 

I don’t care about ray tracing, only pure raster. So I’m leaning toward the 7900 XTX. But at 4K, i assume FSR 4 become necessary for future games to hit 60+ FPS? That’s the big worry as XTX does not have FSR4

So my question is: should I get the 7900 XTX, 9070 XT, or bite the bullet and go with the 5080 FE? Is skipping the 5080 FE at MSRP dumb just because of Nvidia’s tactics? Or should I just ignore the ethics and go with the better long-term card?
 

I researched reddit for 9070 XT vs 7900 XTX, also saw the benchmarks, but still cannot decide what the best decision for my situation
 

Prices in my country:

  • RTX 5080 FE – $1300 (MSRP)

  • PNY 5080 OC – $1470

  • ASUS TUF 5080 OC – $1750

  • Sapphire Nitro+ 9070 XT – $920

  • Sapphire Nitro+ 7900 XTX – $1160

  • ASUS TUF 7900 XTX OC – $1070


TL;DR : I only care about raster performance (not RTX). So, is the 7900 XTX still a smart buy for 4K gaming? Or will lack of FSR 4 support hurt it in future titles? Should I ignore Nvidia’s tactics and just get the 5080 FE at MSRP? Is buying the 5080 FE a smart choice or an L?

I made a previous post regarding the same where I decided to get 5080 FE, but now after the Gamer's Nexus video, I want to stay away from Nvidia, but still willing to bite a bullet and get 5080 FE if it is dumb for me to not get it. 

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the "best priced" card on the list is  the 5080 for 1300usd (15% amd tax) the 7900xtx isn't bad for pure raster, but i'd probably get the 9070xt for fsr4 while saving a bit of money.

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1 hour ago, xg32 said:

the "best priced" card on the list is  the 5080 for 1300usd (15% amd tax) the 7900xtx isn't bad for pure raster, but i'd probably get the 9070xt for fsr4 while saving a bit of money.

Also the 9070 xt is better for RT which is gonna be a benefit in the long run cause games for some reason force it on to some degree nowadays (for some reason) like the new indiana jones game

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2 hours ago, tawkhuah said:

I built a PC after planning for over a year, but without a GPU ((I have a 9800X3D)). I was interested in 5080, but the launch was disappointing: minimal performance uplift, still just 16GB VRAM at a high price.
 

Despite this, I was still planning to buy the 5080 FE next month. What finally turned me off was the recent situation with the RTX 5060, the shady stuff around Gamers Nexus, and how Nvidia continues to treat both customers and reviewers. I tried to ignore it, but they keep proving they’re the worst company to support.
 

I also considered the 7900 XTX and was hoping AMD would follow it up with something better. But they pulled out of the high-end 4K GPU race (9070 XT is focused on 1440p). So I was like it's AMD's loss not releasing a 4K GPU and decided 5080 FE.
 

I don’t care about ray tracing, only pure raster. So I’m leaning toward the 7900 XTX. But at 4K, i assume FSR 4 become necessary for future games to hit 60+ FPS? That’s the big worry as XTX does not have FSR4

So my question is: should I get the 7900 XTX, 9070 XT, or bite the bullet and go with the 5080 FE? Is skipping the 5080 FE at MSRP dumb just because of Nvidia’s tactics? Or should I just ignore the ethics and go with the better long-term card?
 

I researched reddit for 9070 XT vs 7900 XTX, also saw the benchmarks, but still cannot decide what the best decision for my situation
 

Prices in my country:

  • RTX 5080 FE – $1300 (MSRP)

  • PNY 5080 OC – $1470

  • ASUS TUF 5080 OC – $1750

  • Sapphire Nitro+ 9070 XT – $920

  • Sapphire Nitro+ 7900 XTX – $1160

  • ASUS TUF 7900 XTX OC – $1070


TL;DR : I only care about raster performance (not RTX). So, is the 7900 XTX still a smart buy for 4K gaming? Or will lack of FSR 4 support hurt it in future titles? Should I ignore Nvidia’s tactics and just get the 5080 FE at MSRP? Is buying the 5080 FE a smart choice or an L?

I made a previous post regarding the same where I decided to get 5080 FE, but now after the Gamer's Nexus video, I want to stay away from Nvidia, but still willing to bite a bullet and get 5080 FE if it is dumb for me to not get it. 

get a 9070xt and if they do ever release a 9080xt simply sell the 9070 and buy a 9080. else, im sure the 9070xt with some upscaling will do fine in 4k.

for raster its usually better to buy amd when it comes to price to performance. the 7900xtx can get fsr4 but it may not work as well as on 9000 series. but amd is working on it. 
But in general all other future tech will come to rx 9000 and probably not all to rx 7000. 

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I think the biggest mistake is watching and believing delusional YouTubers who's main goal is to stir up drama for their own benefit.

 

Still, if you really want to avoid Nvidia, I'd go 9070XT to at least keep up with feature set somewhat. You may have to upgrade sooner (e.g. next gen) for more perf if you feel you need it. The 9070XT is basically a worse 5070 Ti, and in my use of a 5070 Ti it is decent for 4k gaming but you have to balance upscaling/FG for your target framerate as games allow. Yes, I use FG in one game and it does make the difference.

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Buying GPU at MSRP? Good luck.

 

 

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9070 XT is decent, if you don't mind 16GB of VRAM, it's only 6% slower than 7900XTX in raster.

 

Though...

 

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And 5070Ti is supposed to be MSRP ~750$

 

I guess that one was sold near/at 750$? But of course those will instantly get grabbed by bots...

 

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1 minute ago, porina said:

I think the biggest mistake is watching and believing delusional YouTubers who's main goal is to stir up drama for their own benefit.

 

Still, if you really want to avoid Nvidia, I'd go 9070XT to at least keep up with feature set somewhat. You may have to upgrade sooner (e.g. next gen) for more perf if you feel you need it. The 9070XT is basically a worse 5070 Ti, and in my use of a 5070 Ti it is decent for 4k gaming but you have to balance upscaling/FG for your target framerate as games allow. Yes, I use FG in one game and it does make the difference.

Imagine 5070Ti gameplay and performance if game devs actually optimized their games.

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3 hours ago, tawkhuah said:

Should I ignore Nvidia’s tactics and just get the 5080 FE at MSRP?

I hate to say it but yeh. While I really enjoyed GNs video and agreed with pretty much everything Steve said, Nvidia cards are still better especially when it comes to feature-set so as long as AMD are only interested in the low to mid-end market, I'll continue to perpetuate Nvidia's shady practices.

 

Not sure what its like in the US but here in the UK, prices have been dropping a little over the past few weeks and availability starting to get better. I've had my eye on a 5090 for a while and they are now available for as low as £2099 which is only a 100 quid above MSRP.

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I was making the same decision, looking at 5080/5090 to complete my build. I wouldn't say the GN review changed my mind, but it definitely tipped me over to AMD. Yes the NVIDIA cards are faster and better at ray tracing, but for $1100 bucks I grabbed the Sapphire Nitro 7900XTX. The performance uplift for 5080 wasn't great, they overhyped the cards and overpriced them. Then the drivers are absolute crap, the cards are still melting power connectors, and you can't get one. Add in only 16GB of VRAM and then some shady activities with the 5060 release and the GN video and I've had enough, its not worth it anymore. The XTX has great rasterization, i rarely use ray tracing, and I want the extra VRAM for messing with LLM's etc. In the mean time, I don't see a scenario where AMD doesn't release a 9070XTX so they can continue to make gains into NVIDIA's market, and I'll upgrade then. I don't care if someone decides to go with NVIDIA still, but I agree that if AMD can meet your gaming needs for now, and lets be honest, over 4k 60 isn't a need, then lets reward the company trying to bring affordable, capable options to the market and hope NVIDIA course corrects. 

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This is funny after spending a long time talking to a buddy last night who recently moved to 4K (42" LG C4) with his 7900xtx. He's been getting jealous of DLSS and replaced it with a 5070Ti that he just installed last night. I don't think he could be more over the moon with the transition. 7900xtx locked to FSR3 in 2025 is a bit of a joke of a purchase, IMO. At least 9070xt.

 

Though, DLSS Performance (transformer model) is downright magical at 4K. I personally think you're doing yourself a disservice by buying anything but Nvidia.

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4 hours ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

This is funny after spending a long time talking to a buddy last night who recently moved to 4K (42" LG C4) with his 7900xtx. He's been getting jealous of DLSS and replaced it with a 5070Ti that he just installed last night. I don't think he could be more over the moon with the transition. 7900xtx locked to FSR3 in 2025 is a bit of a joke of a purchase, IMO. At least 9070xt.

 

Though, DLSS Performance (transformer model) is downright magical at 4K. I personally think you're doing yourself a disservice by buying anything but Nvidia.

fsr4 is just as fine as transformer when it comes to 4k, barely any noticeable difference to non at all. and in some cases it looks slightly better. there is 0 reason to still buy nvidia besides creator reasons with cuda. AI is much improved. Raytracing is much improved. upscaling is hugely improved with more to follow, and performance is pretty good for the amount of shading units a 9070xt has.

if you still buy nvidia you literally buy an overpriced card that is classed as a higher card to make you spend more. he didnt buy a 70ti he bought a 60 class. but paid 80 class pricing for it. 0 reason why someone who buys just for gaming should hand any more money to nvidia until they do better. you are shooting your future self in the foot by supporting that heavily cut die high pricing bs nvidia is pulling. if people keep supporting it when they dont have to you literally encourage nvidia to keep course and repeat the same bs over and over and over again

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