If 12600KF and 14600KF with B760 mobo price same, which should I choose?

[IdealPC]

 I heard that 13th and 14th CPU has the stability issue, so should I choose 12600KF?

[EffeectFTW]

If it's a brand-new chip, I'd go with the 14600kf and make sure the BIOS is up to date, as it is a significantly faster chip. The stability issue is most common with the i7s and i9s of that generation and whilst the i5 13600kf/14600kf are included in the warranty/support extension, I haven't seen many reports of people having issues with that specific skew online. Speaking from personal experience, my i5 13600k has been stable since I got it over a year ago, and I'm running the latest BIOS with the microcode patches.

 

If you want to avoid the headache and the worry, I would just go with an AM5-based platform to be blunt.

 

 

[IdealPC]

1 minute ago, EffeectFTW said:

If it's a brand-new chip, I'd go with the 14600kf and make sure the BIOS is up to date, as it is a significantly faster chip. The stability issue is most common with the i7s and i9s of that generation and whilst the i5 13600kf/14600kf are included in the warranty/support extension, I haven't seen many reports of people having issues with that specific skew online. Speaking from personal experience, my i5 13600k has been stable since I got it over a year ago, and I'm running the latest BIOS with the microcode patches.

 

If you want to avoid the headache and the worry, I would just go with an AM5-based platform to be blunt.

 

 

Thank you very much for prompt advice! Seems I should choose 14600KF now. Honestly I was also considering AMD platform, but since I have no idea of AMD products, I don't know which to choose. Is AMD platform stable and simple to run? If so, any recommendation for CPU & mobo equivalent or better than 14600KF?

[fabians_life]

3 minutes ago, IdealPC said:

Thank you very much for prompt advice! Seems I should choose 14600KF now. Honestly I was also considering AMD platform, but since I have no idea of AMD products, I don't know which to choose. Is AMD platform stable and simple to run? If so, any recommendation for CPU & mobo equivalent or better than 14600KF?

The amd equivalent would be the amd ryzen 5 9600x with some b650 or b850 mobo. Depending on your budget, could go with the cheaper ryzen 5 8400f or the more expensive ryzen 7 9700x or even x3d, if you game a lot. 

[TatamiMatt]

17 minutes ago, IdealPC said:

Thank you very much for prompt advice! Seems I should choose 14600KF now. Honestly I was also considering AMD platform, but since I have no idea of AMD products, I don't know which to choose. Is AMD platform stable and simple to run? If so, any recommendation for CPU & mobo equivalent or better than 14600KF?

Whats your use case and budget?

[Mumintroll]

Beware if you pick the 14600KF, as there has been buyers beliving that they've recieved a brand new unused cpu, but got a repacked returned cpu with degradation issues. Yes there are scetchy resellers scamming people.

 

I would pick the 12600KF.

[IdealPC]

24 minutes ago, fabians_life said:

The amd equivalent would be the amd ryzen 5 9600x with some b650 or b850 mobo. Depending on your budget, could go with the cheaper ryzen 5 8400f or the more expensive ryzen 7 9700x or even x3d, if you game a lot. 

I did a check on 8400F, seems the performance much lower, 7900x price higher but performance not better than 14600KF.

[IdealPC]

17 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

Whats your use case and budget?

Mostly gaming, a little streaming

[IdealPC]

17 minutes ago, Mumintroll said:

Beware if you pick the 14600KF, as there has been buyers beliving that they've recieved a brand new unused cpu, but got a repacked returned cpu with degradation issues. Yes there are scetchy resellers scamming people.

 

I would pick the 12600KF.

So if not scam or not used, I should choose 14600KF, right?

[Tan3l6]

1 minute ago, IdealPC said:

So if not scam or not used, I should choose 14600KF, right?

In case of 12600KF or 14600KF, I'd say yes. Considerably faster.

[Millios]

6 minutes ago, IdealPC said:

I did a check on 8400F, seems the performance much lower, 7900x price higher but performance not better than 14600KF.

The 8400F is prob the weakest CPU you'll find on AM5 and compared to a 14600KF its a bad suggestion

Hows the 7700x, 7700 or 7900 looking like? they should be cheaper but very comparable

[IdealPC]

Just now, Tan3l6 said:

In case of 12600KF or 14600KF, I'd say yes. Considerably faster.

OK, I will go with 14600KF

[IdealPC]

50 minutes ago, Millios said:

The 8400F is prob the weakest CPU you'll find on AM5 and compared to a 14600KF its a bad suggestion

Hows the 7700x, 7700 or 7900 looking like? they should be cheaper but very comparable

These might be good but I know less about AMD, I will probably go with 14600KF as long as it's not scam

[Millios]

3 minutes ago, IdealPC said:

These might be good but I know less about AMD, I will probably go with 14600KF as long as it's not scam

Doesnt really matter if you know less when you got a forum full of ppl that know and can answer you

 

I'd go with AMD  AM5 cause it isnt a dead platform, will see more future support and is cheaper but you do you my friend

[Mumintroll]

14 minutes ago, IdealPC said:

OK, I will go with 14600KF

Just remember to have the latest bios and use one of Intel's default profiles then.

[PDifolco]

2 hours ago, IdealPC said:

Mostly gaming, a little streaming

Then get a 7800X3D

 

[Tan3l6]

4 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Then get a 7800X3D

 

Almost twice the price, almost 20% performance uplift at 1440p+

Although I went for 9800X3D I think it's not really worth it at 1440p, compared to 14600KF.

[PDifolco]

6 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

Almost twice the price, almost 20% performance uplift at 1440p+

Although I went for 9800X3D I think it's not really worth it at 1440p, compared to 14600KF.

Then a 7700x, way cheaper and comparable to 14600k in performance 

Plus the upgradability option 

[jmwhite33]

3 hours ago, EffeectFTW said:

 

 

If you want to avoid the headache and the worry, I would just go with an AM5-based platform to be blunt.

 

 

Actually read an article about 30 minutes ago saying that the new AMD processors are having the exact same voltage spike problems now, apparently asrock boards are the worst for voltage issues in the new cpu's.

 

Aside from that I've also read a few that say the 12th gen I-5's and I-7's can offer gaming that is on par with 14th gen because the E-cores don't offer much for gaming specifically. You get better and more robust multitasking with 14th gen, but straight gaming apparently not a big boost over 12th gen.

[Tan3l6]

9 minutes ago, jmwhite33 said:

You get better and more robust multitasking with 14th gen, but straight gaming apparently not a big boost over 12th gen.

3DMark Fire Strike:

12600K - 41783

14600KF - 47673

These are my results with RTX 4080. Not mind blowing difference, yet there is a difference.

 

But I'd say the AMD 7700X might be best option - AM5 socket is not dead yet.

[PDifolco]

8 minutes ago, jmwhite33 said:

Actually read an article about 30 minutes ago saying that the new AMD processors are having the exact same voltage spike problems now, apparently asrock boards are the worst for voltage issues in the new cpu's.

 

Aside from that I've also read a few that say the 12th gen I-5's and I-7's can offer gaming that is on par with 14th gen because the E-cores don't offer much for gaming specifically. You get better and more robust multitasking with 14th gen, but straight gaming apparently not a big boost over 12th gen.

Issues seem to have been pretty rare, but indeed some Asus/ASrock boards had some "bad" voltages and were recently fixed

Quite a nothingburger imo

[jmwhite33]

1 minute ago, Tan3l6 said:

3DMark Fire Strike:

12600K - 41783

14600KF - 47673

These are my results with RTX 4080. Not mind blowing difference, yet there is a difference.

Yup. In what I've read show the same results.

Benchmarks show a boost, but in actual sitting in front of the monitor playing a game the difference is barely noticeable.

 

difference between benchmark numbers and real world end user experience.

[jmwhite33]

3 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Issues seem to have been pretty rare, but indeed some Asus/ASrock boards had some "bad" voltages and were recently fixed

Quite a nothingburger imo

Funny how it was/is a MAJOR deal breaker with Intel, but with AMD it's "Meh, no biggie".

[PDifolco]

3 minutes ago, jmwhite33 said:

Funny how it was/is a MAJOR deal breaker with Intel, but with AMD it's "Meh, no biggie".

Because it affected 50% of Intel chips and like 0.1% of AMD chips, that's all

 

[jmwhite33]

6 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Because it affected 50% of Intel chips and like 0.1% of AMD chips, that's all

 

So far......

time will tell

Intel 13th gen has been out for 3 years, 14th two years, Ryzen 9 has been out for less than a year and the X3d line has been out for few months.

So far to early to call it yet, lets see in a couple years what the numbers are.